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So my sermon this evening is flee from idolatry.

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Flee from idolatry.

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The Bible says there in verse number 14,

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wherefore my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.

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What does it mean to flee?

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It means to run away, to try to escape, get away from it.

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The Bible also says flee fornication.

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You know, and you can think about being in situations

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where you're tempted to commit fornication

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and where those things are in front of you

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and you'd want to just get out of there

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and you think of Joseph in the Old Testament

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where he has the opportunity to commit an adultery

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with his master's wife.

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And he ends up just running out of there

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to the point where she grabs hold of his garment.

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He just leaves the garment and just goes.

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Like when you grab a lizard

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and it just leaves its tail with you.

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You know, that's basically what Joseph did

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because he's trying to get out of there.

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And that is what the Bible says about idolatry,

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showing you that this is as serious of a thing

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as fornication.

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It's something that is really wicked in the sight of God.

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Look if you would at verse 19.

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It says, what say I then?

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That the idol is anything

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or that which is offered in sacrifice to idols is anything.

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But I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice,

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they sacrifice to devils and not to God.

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And I would not that you should have fellowship with devils.

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You cannot drink the cup of the Lord

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and the cup of devils.

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You cannot be partaker of the Lord's table

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and of the table of devils.

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Now, if we think about the word idolatry,

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what does this English word mean?

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If we look at the etymology of this word,

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it literally means serving images.

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That is what it means.

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Serving images comes from the word idolon,

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which means image and letrevo is the verb

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that means to serve or to worship.

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And we're gonna see that the Bible

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defines it the same way.

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I mean, that's what it is.

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And I think that it would help you

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to understand what is idolatry

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and what is not idolatry if you understand

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that the word simply means serving images.

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So keep that definition in your head

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throughout the sermon as we look at all this.

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Now, obviously there is a literal idolatry,

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which is literal serving of images.

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And then there's a more proverbial, metaphorical,

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symbolical kind of idolatry.

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Like if we said covetousness is idolatry

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or putting anything in the place of God is idolatry.

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But when we talk about the literal, not the metaphorical,

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but the literal meaning of idolatry,

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we're talking about serving a literal image,

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whether that's a picture or a statue

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or something of that nature.

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And these images in particular are of humans

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or animals and they're meant to depict God, okay?

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Now, what does this look like

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when you are serving images or serving idols?

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Because the Bible says in 2 Kings 17, 12,

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for they served idols,

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wherefore the Lord had said unto them,

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you should not do this thing.

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So what does it mean to serve the idols?

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Well, if you would go back to Exodus chapter 20, verse four,

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let's start with the Ten Commandments.

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This is a good place to start.

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And the Ten Commandments, of course, start out,

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thou shalt have no other gods before me.

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That's commandment number one.

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Commandment number two is,

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thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image.

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Now the Roman Catholics, of course,

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their whole religion is based upon idolatry.

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The Greek Orthodox are 100%

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an idolatry-based religion.

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In fact, they have a holiday that they celebrate

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called the Triumph of Orthodoxy.

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The Triumph of Orthodoxy, a day that they celebrate.

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And it's the day when they started being allowed

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to worship images again.

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Because there was this thing called the Iconoclast

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and people were rebelling against idolatry

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and they were breaking,

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Iconoclast literally means breaking images, okay?

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And so, you know, they're destroying images.

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And so when the church decided,

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yeah, let's just go nuts on idolatry.

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We love idolatry.

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And in fact, we're gonna require idolatry.

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Well, that's called the Triumph of Orthodoxy.

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So that should just tell you

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that to be Orthodox is to be an idolator.

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By definition, the Orthodox Church,

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that is their main tenet.

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And in fact, it's required when you go

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to the Orthodox Church, you must serve idols

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because you are required to kiss the icons

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in the Orthodox Church.

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And an icon is just another word for an image, right?

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You know what an icon is on your computer, on your phone.

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And so icons, serving icons and serving idols

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is the exact same thing.

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What does it look like?

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Well, kissing them.

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And the Bible talks about this.

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Kissing idols is something that we find in Scripture.

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Also, bowing down to them, praying to them.

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Look what the Bible says in Exodus 20, verse four.

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It says,

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So notice how bowing down to them and serving them

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is the same breath.

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For I the Lord thy God am a jealous God

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visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children

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under the third and fourth generation of them that hate me.

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Now, this is so explicit in the Ten Commandments.

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You think like, how do the Catholics get around this?

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I mean, it's in the Ten Commandments.

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Well, here's what they've done is

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they actually eliminated this from the Ten Commandments.

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And so what they do is they claim,

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oh no, no, this is part of commandment number one.

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Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

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And then he's just elaborating like,

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hey, these are some of the other gods

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that I don't want you to have and blah, blah, blah.

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So then here's the problem though,

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then they only end up with nine commandments.

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And obviously the number 10 is not an arbitrary number

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because the Bible actually says in Deuteronomy 10.4,

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the Ten Commandments.

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So we know that it has to add up to 10.

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So then what they do is they actually chop up

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the commandment of thou shalt not covet

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into two commandments,

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which makes absolutely no sense for a couple reasons.

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Reason number one is that in the New Testament

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when these are quoted,

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thou shalt not covet is always treated as one commandment.

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It'll be in a list like, thou shalt not kill,

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thou shalt not steal,

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thou shalt not commit adultery,

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thou shalt not bear false witness,

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and thou shalt not covet.

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It isn't broken out into these components like they do,

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but then not only that,

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it's really stupid when you look at this

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because it says in verse 17,

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thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, okay?

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They're saying that that's a different commandment

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from thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, okay?

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So according to them,

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this is how this is reading, okay?

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Thou shalt not bear false witness

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against thy neighbor.

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According to them, that's commandment eight, okay?

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Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house,

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that's commandment 10.

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Everybody following?

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So we're from eight to 10.

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Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife,

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that's back to nine,

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nor his manservant back to 10.

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So it goes eight, 10, nine, 10.

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I mean, you have to do some real mental gymnastics

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to believe the stupidity,

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but what they have to do is cook the books

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in order to hide the second commandment.

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Now look, if what they're doing is not idolatry,

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if what they're doing is not making grave

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and images and bowing down to them,

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then why wouldn't they just be able

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to just put out an honest 10 commandments

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and just say, hey, here's the honest 10 commandments

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and we're in compliance and everything's good to go.

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Why'd they have to, the fact that they're hiding it,

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you know, if you run, it makes you look guilty,

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you know, and you're hiding this

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because it's incriminating unto you.

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So what does serving images look like?

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Well, it looks like bowing down to them

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according to the 10 commandments.

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Go, if you went to Jeremiah chapter 44,

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let's see what else it looks like to serve images.

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Jeremiah chapter 44, I'm gonna start reading

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while you get there.

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It says, because of their wickedness,

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which they have committed to provoke me to anger

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and that they went to do what?

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To burn incense and to serve other gods

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whom they knew not, neither they, ye nor your father.

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So notice that serving idols here

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involves burning incense unto them.

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So whether you're kissing them,

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bowing down to them, praying to them,

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burning incense unto them,

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offering other kinds of sacrifices besides incense,

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you know, whatever kind of meat or drink offering

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or animal sacrifice, anything that falls under this,

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the Bible classifies as serving images.

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There's a positive example of serving God

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by burning incense because it says in 2 Chronicles 2911,

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my son's being on now negligent

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for the Lord hath chosen you to stand before him

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to serve him and that you should minister unto him

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and burn incense.

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So the difference is they're not burning incense

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to an image.

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They're burning incense to God, but not to an image

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because if you're serving images, that is idolatry.

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Okay, go back if you would to Leviticus.

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Leviticus, while you're turning there,

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I'm gonna start reading in chapter 19 verse four.

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You can go to chapter 26.

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It says in 19 four,

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turn ye not unto idols,

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nor make to yourselves molten gods,

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I am the Lord your God.

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Okay, so he says, don't turn to idols

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and do not make to yourselves molten gods,

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I am the Lord your God.

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So here's the thing,

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it's not just that we don't wanna serve idols,

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it's that we don't even wanna make idols.

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Don't make them.

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So here's the good rule of thumb

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is that we should never make or possess

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or have any image that is either being worshiped

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or is in danger of being worshiped

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or has a tendency to be worshiped,

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which would mean no religious images

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that have a tendency to be worshiped.

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So look, if something has never been worshiped

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in the history of mankind, no one's ever served it,

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no one's ever worshiped it,

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no one would ever dream of doing that,

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no one would ever think of doing that,

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then it is not idolatry to possess something like that.

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Because a lot of people will say like,

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well, don't you have a picture of your wife or something?

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Yeah, but nobody's like burning incense, they're wild,

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like, oh, honey, I mean,

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some of these super simp white knight feminist types,

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maybe they think that's gonna score them extra points,

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maybe they might actually get laid

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by their wife one time or something.

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But the point is that in general,

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pictures of your kids, pictures of your spouse,

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no one thinks that's religious.

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No one thinks that that's an object of worship.

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It's sort of like where the Bible says,

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be not called rabbi, be not called master,

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and then he says, call no man your father upon the earth.

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What do the Catholics do?

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Oh, well, don't you call your dad father?

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Yeah, that's cause my dad is my father.

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Okay, but the point is,

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he's telling you not to call a religious leader father,

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just like you don't call him rabbi,

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you don't call him father,

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and then they just defy scripture once again.

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And so again, we're talking about religious images.

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We're not talking about,

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you drew a picture of a cat and stuck it on the fridge,

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you drew a picture of a dog,

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you made a little clay gumby type figurine

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or something like that,

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because if it's something that no one is worshiping,

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has worship, thinks about worshiping, dreams of worshiping,

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you know, it's not that just pictures in general are bad,

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it's serving images that's bad.

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And you can't just say,

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well, I'm going to own an idol,

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but I'm not going to serve it.

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Because again, if it's the type of thing that gets served,

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then it's an idol and you shouldn't even make it,

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because the Bible says you don't even want to be tempted

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to serve it, you don't even want other people

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to be tempted to serve it.

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So for example, you know,

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I could put up a picture of quote unquote,

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Jesus in my house,

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which would really be impossible

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since no one actually knows what Jesus looked like,

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but I digress, we'll get to that later in the sermon,

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but if I just put up a picture of quote unquote,

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Jesus in my house and said,

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well, I'm not going to pray to it,

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I'm not going to bow down to it,

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I'm not going to burn incense before it,

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I'm not going to serve it,

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that is still wrong,

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because that is an image that people do bow down to,

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they do pray to that image,

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they do serve that image, that is an idol.

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So you don't bring an idol into your house

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and say, well, I'm going to bring in the idol,

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but I'm not going to worship it.

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No, don't have idols in your house.

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What are idols?

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Images that people serve.

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Now again, if you brought in a Pes dispenser,

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that's not an image that people serve,

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that's not a God that people worship,

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that's not any kind of an image that gets incense,

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burned unto it, or anything like that.

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And so I hope you can see the difference here

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between the idol and the non-idle,

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because we're not saying that any picture is wrong, okay?

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We're saying that images that are served

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tend to be served, are a temptation to be served,

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depicting some kind of deity,

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or depicting even just a human that people tend to worship,

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that's idolatry, get it out, trash it, burn it, destroy it.

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Look at you with a chapter 26 of Leviticus,

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verse one, ye shall make you no idols nor graven image,

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neither rear you up a standing image,

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neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land

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to bow down unto it, for I am the Lord your God.

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Verse 30, I will destroy your high places

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and cut down your images and cast your carcasses

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upon the carcasses of your idols,

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and my soul shall appore you.

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Notice the interchangeable usage of the word idol

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and image, image and idol, that is what idol means.

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Etymologically, that is where the English word idol

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comes from, the Greek word, idolon, idolon, idol, idol,

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that is the same word.

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And it means image.

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He says, look, this provokes me unto wrath,

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my soul shall abhor you.

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I mean, God hates idolatry.

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This is not a small sin, it's a big sin.

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Now people will come along and here's what they'll say.

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They'll say, well, the reason why God is so mad

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about idolatry is just because it's other gods.

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But I'm gonna demonstrate to you from the Bible,

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go through it to Deuteronomy chapter four,

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that even idols of the Lord are not allowed.

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It's not just the problem that they're other gods.

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And folks, I am only showing you a small sampling

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of the scripture tonight,

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because just to read all the verses about idolatry

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would literally take the entire hour,

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because there's so much scripture on idolatry.

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So like, just because I only give you

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a couple verses on each point,

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just realize that there are like 20 other verses

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for these things that I am skipping,

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because there are just so many verses

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about don't make idols, don't worship idols.

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I mean, just burning incense to idols.

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Again, I think that there are probably about

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15 to 20 verses on that, roughly,

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just on the incense angle.

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And again, any angle you pick, breaking them,

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destroying them, it's just verse after verse after verse.

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But again, this is the objection that comes up.

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People will come along and say,

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well, God's mad about idolatry because it's a false God.

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If it's an image of the true God, we're okay.

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Well, that's not true because even idols

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of the Lord are not allowed.

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Look if you would at Deuteronomy chapter four, verse 12,

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and the Lord spake unto you out of the midst of the fire,

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you heard the voice of the words,

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but saw no similitude.

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Only you heard a voice.

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He's saying, look, you saw no image,

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you only heard the word of God, right?

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So if you want to know who God is,

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the word of God will tell you who he is,

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not a picture, okay?

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Go through to verse 15.

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Take you there for good heat unto yourselves,

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for you saw no manner of similitude

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on the day that the Lord spake unto you

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in horror about the midst of the fire.

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The word similitude, it's like our word similar,

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similitude is a likeness,

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something that looks like something else.

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Lest you corrupt yourselves and make you a graven image,

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he's saying, look, you did not see a similitude of God,

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so don't make a similitude and claim that that's the Lord.

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He says, lest you corrupt yourselves

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and make you a graven image,

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the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female,

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the likeness of any beast that is on the earth,

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the likeness of any winged fowl that flyeth in the air,

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the likeness of anything that creepeth on the ground,

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the likeness of any fish that is in the waters

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beneath the earth.

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So again, what are the specific images

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that we are talking about that God is saying,

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do not make these images?

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We are talking about humans and animals, male or female.

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So he's saying, don't make an image of a man,

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don't make an image of a woman,

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don't make an image of a fish, a bird, whatever.

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Any creeping thing, bugs, mammals, he's saying,

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look, any of these images

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that would be an object of worship are prohibited

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even if they represent the Lord.

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Because he's saying, look, you don't try to claim

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that this is an image of me because you didn't see me.

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You saw no similitude.

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So how can you make an image of something

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that you've never seen, right?

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In order for me to draw a picture of someone,

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I would have to see that person, right?

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Now look if you would at Exodus, chapter 32.

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Exodus chapter 32.

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You didn't see me, therefore you cannot make an image

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and claim that that is an image of me.

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Now look, if it were God's will for us to serve images,

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then God would have shown us an image

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and said, this is what I look like.

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This is the picture, folks.

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Don't bow down to that other picture.

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Bow down to the picture that I'm giving you.

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But did he give us an image?

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Absolutely not, he did not give us a picture.

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Look at Exodus 32, verse four.

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It says, and he received them at their hand.

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This is Aaron making the golden calf

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and fashioned it with a graving tool.

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After he had made it a molten,

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molten meaning melted metal, molten calf.

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A calf is of course a young cow or bull, right?

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And they said, these be thy gods, O Israel,

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which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.

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And when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it

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and Aaron made proclamation and said,

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tomorrow is a feast to the Lord.

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So notice that this false God, they make an idol,

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but the idol they're saying is number one, the Lord.

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So they're using the same name.

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Even though it's this image of a golden calf,

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they're saying we're worshiping the Lord with this image.

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But not only does the image have the same name,

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he also has the same story or the same lore

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because they say this is the God

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that brought you out of the land of Egypt.

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So it's basically just identifying it with,

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it'd be like pointing to a picture and saying,

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this is Jesus, he died on the cross for you.

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And it's some random, long-haired effeminate dude

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in a dress that some medieval Catholic effeminate

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dreamed up and just drew out of his own heart

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or maybe based it on his gay buddy or something, right?

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These bunch of faggots, Michelangelo,

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and whoever else, these guys are sodomite weirdos.

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You say, I don't know,

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how do you know Michelangelo's a sodomite?

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Why don't you take a look at some of his artwork

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and then get back to me on that question, okay?

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Right, a guy who's just drawing male anatomy

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and male genitalia all day long.

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The guy is a creep, he draws a bunch of weird,

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creepy effeminate pictures.

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And yeah, obviously he's super talented.

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I'm sure there are a lot of satanic musicians

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that are super talented too in their worship of the devil.

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Yeah, he painted a lot of beautiful pictures

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of male anatomy, really cool stuff, guys.

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I'm sure you want that all over your house,

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all over your living room, all up and down the hallways,

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right?

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And so the bottom line is these effeminate queers

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of the Catholic church, they paint an image

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of a girly man.

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I mean, some of the pictures of Jesus,

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he literally looks like he's wearing makeup.

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He literally looks like a dude in drag,

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he looks like he has lipstick and blush

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and he's in a dress and he's got long hair

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and he's so pretty.

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And so that is a made-up image of just a random dude.

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Maybe it's just a fictional made-up dude

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or, you know, I've even seen people say,

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hey, this is the picture that they were basing

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the Jesus image is on.

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This is the guy and stuff.

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And people claim it's literal people

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that lived at that time.

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And so you can say that it's the Lord

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and you can have the story behind it

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that's the same story behind the Lord.

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Oh yeah, he delivered you out of Egypt.

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That doesn't make it the Lord.

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You don't make an idol.

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The Bible says in Psalm 106,

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you don't have to turn there,

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turn if you would to Romans one,

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but in Psalm 106, verse 19,

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the Bible says they made a calf in Horeb

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and worshiped the molten image.

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This is the psalmist reflecting back on the golden calf.

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And this is what he says about it.

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He says they changed their glory

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into the similitude of an ox that eateth grass.

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Okay.

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And so here's the thing.

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Human beings are made in the image of God.

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We don't look like cows.

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Therefore God doesn't look like a cow.

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Okay.

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And so he's saying, look,

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they are claiming it's the Lord.

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They're claiming it's the God

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that brought them out of Egypt,

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but yet they're making it look like cattle.

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Same thing in First Kings 12.

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You don't have to turn there,

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but the sin of Jeroboam,

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when he makes the golden calf,

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he says that these are your gods

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which brought you out of the land of Egypt.

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And then he says that he's gonna make a feast

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just like the feast in Jerusalem.

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So it has the same dates, the same lore.

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We're worshiping the Lord, quote unquote,

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but it is, of course, not really the Lord.

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So then the next objection would be,

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because the first objection is,

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well, you just can't make an idol about other gods,

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but if it's the Lord, it's okay.

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Well, the Lord says, well, you didn't see an image,

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so it's impossible for you to make an image of me.

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The next objection will say,

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well, the reason that that idol was bad

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is because it's an animal.

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If it were a human, it would be fine.

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It's just because it was an animal.

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Well, look what the Bible says in Romans 1, verse 22.

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Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools

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and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God

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into an image made like to corruptible man

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and to birds and four foot of beast and creeping things.

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So you notice here that an image of man

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is put in the exact same category of an image of a beast.

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If you're making an idol and serving it,

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it doesn't matter whether it's human or animal,

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it is still serving images,

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it is still idolatry according to God.

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The next objection will be this.

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Well, yeah, you couldn't make idols in the Old Testament.

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That was wrong in the Old Testament

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because you hadn't seen Jesus yet.

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But once Jesus physically showed up on this earth,

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we did see an image because Jesus

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is the express image of God's person,

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and so now we have seen an image,

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so now we can worship an image of Jesus.

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Well, here's the problem with that.

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Go if you would to 1 Corinthians, chapter five.

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There are a few problems with that.

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Problem number one, no images

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from the time of Christ have survived.

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Now, the main icon that is trumpeted

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by the Orthodox Church comes from around 500 years

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after the time of Christ, okay?

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And it's that really weird picture

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where it has like a split personality

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and basically it's like this weird kind of like

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forest Whitaker kind of thing going on on one of the eyes.

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And basically one side is supposed to be the divine side,

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one side is supposed to be the human side,

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so he ends up looking like this Batman character,

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two-faced or something, right?

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And this is the one that they trumpet as like,

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oh, this is super ancient icon.

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500 years after the facto isn't anywhere close, okay?

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And that's the one that you'll notice

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all of their newer icons, they all match up with that,

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because they'll try to show like images

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of hundreds of icons saying,

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look how consistent this is, this white dude is Jesus.

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Okay, now look, this, why would Jesus

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be like so super European anyways, what I'm wondering,

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because you know, Jesus Christ is from Palestine.

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Okay, the people in that region,

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sorry black Hebrew Israelites, they're not black people,

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but they're also not white people, okay?

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They're brown people.

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And here's the thing, people in Egypt, Palestine,

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that whole region, look, in the Bible,

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Israelites are commonly mistaken for Egyptians,

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because even all the way back in Genesis,

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Joseph is able to pass for an Egyptian.

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In Exodus, Moses is assumed to be an Egyptian.

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When he even goes to Midian, they say,

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oh, an Egyptian guy came and helped us and everything.

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So Paul in the New Testament, right?

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Fast forward, a couple thousand years,

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and the apostle Paul is told,

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hey, aren't you that Egyptian guy?

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So over and over again, we have Israelites

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being mistaken for Egyptians, not only that,

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Joseph's wife is Egyptian.

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So that means that all his kids are Egyptian,

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which means that the biggest tribe numerically

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of the Northern Kingdom, Ephraim, is half Egyptian.

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Manasseh is half Egyptian, okay?

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And so that's, and we know what Egyptians looked like

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because hieroglyphics have survived,

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and we have all kinds of hieroglyphics,

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and images and pictures that go back

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way before the time of Christ,

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showing what Egyptians look like.

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No, sorry, they are not Sub-Saharan African blacks,

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but they're also not white people from Europe either,

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they are brown people.

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The same way that people look in that region today

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is the same way that they've looked for a long time,

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Palestinians and Egyptians and people of that nature.

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And so, that's one problem,

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is that they're prototype images

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from 500 years after the fact, okay?

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And it's a white dude, which doesn't really track

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with what we would expect.

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You know, we would expect someone Semitic,

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not some Ashkenazi, JFeth looking kind of a guy, right?

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We'd expect someone Semitic looking, okay?

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But not only that, they'll come along and say,

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well, that's not the oldest icon

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because we could find all this other art of Jesus

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from the second century, third century AD.

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Yeah, you can, and you know what's funny?

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You look at those pictures

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from the second and third century AD,

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and they look totally different.

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It's a different guy.

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It's a completely different guy.

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Yeah, oh, we go to the catacombs

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and look at these really super ancient pictures of Jesus.

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These might even go to the first century,

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second century, third century.

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Yeah, and they're different guys, they look different.

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Bro is a different person, okay?

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Look, I have an Armenian,

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I have a replica of an Armenian gospel manuscript

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from around 1000 AD, so this is 1000 years ago,

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and it has pictures of Jesus in it,

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and it's just a totally different dude.

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Even within the book, there's like two different Jesuses

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that don't even look the same as each other, okay?

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Because they were from different time periods,

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different styles, or whatever.

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So yeah, now they've kind of brought it all into conformity,

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but even now there's a Mormon Jesus

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that kind of has that springer spaniel kind of look to him,

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and then there's the Catholic looking Jesus,

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there's the Orthodox looking Jesus,

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there's the Jehovah's Witness Jesus, and whatever.

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You know, so there is no way to know what Jesus looked like.

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We don't know what he looked like.

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You're worshiping a random dude,

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and you know, you might as well get a picture

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of Obi-Wan Kenobi from episode one,

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and just put that on the wall, frame it.

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I mean, that's probably as close as you're gonna get

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of the Catholic Jesus, you know?

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So that's a big problem is that

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we don't know what it looked like, but number two,

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number two, we have tons of prohibitions

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against serving images in the New Testament.

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So if it was like, well, we couldn't do it back then

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because we hadn't seen him yet, now we've seen him.

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First of all, no we haven't because no picture survived,

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so no one living today has seen Jesus

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or an accurate picture of Jesus, number one.

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But number two, why are there so many prohibitions

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on idolatry in the New Testament

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if suddenly idolatry is okay now,

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and suddenly we can serve images

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as long as we have the right image to serve?

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Because what does idolatry mean?

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Serving images.

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Why doesn't he say, hey, don't serve the wrong image,

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serve the right images?

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Why is there no verse in the entire New Testament

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where the apostles or Jesus or Paul or Barnabas

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or Silas or Ananias and Sapphira,

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how come Priscilla, how come nobody sits down

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and ever draws a picture of Jesus

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and puts it on the wall or paints a picture

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and worships an image?

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Where in the Bible do any of God's people

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ever serve an image in the New Testament?

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Where do they burn incense to an image?

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Where do they pray to an image?

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Where do they bow down to an image?

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Where do they draw an image?

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Where do they paint an image?

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Where does the apostle Paul say,

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hey, make sure you worship the right image,

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not the wrong image?

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No, he just says, flee from idolatry!

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Get away from it!

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Now look at 1 Corinthians 5,

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but now verse 11,

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now I've written unto you not to keep company

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if a man that is called a brother

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be a fornicator or covetous or an idolater

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or a railer or a drunkard or an extortioner

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with such a one, no, not to eat.

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He's saying, look, you cannot fellowship

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with these people.

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They will infect your church.

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A little leaven leavens the whole lump.

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This is poison.

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These people are toxic.

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Them that are without God judges.

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Therefore, put away from among yourselves

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that wicked person.

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He's saying, fornicators must be thrown out of the church.

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Throw them out.

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He says, if they're called a brother

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and they're a fornicator,

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covetous, idolater, railer, drunkard, extortioner,

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get them out!

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Idolaters on the list.

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Well, that's talking about some of you

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who's worshiping false gods.

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Hold up.

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Somebody who is bowing down

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and praying to statues of Zeus and Minerva

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or Buddhist gods or Hindu gods,

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they're not called a brother.

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When was the last time you saw someone

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in your entire life who was called a Christian,

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bowing down to Buddha,

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bowing down to Hindu gods,

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bowing down to Krishna?

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That doesn't exist,

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because then you just,

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that person's not even called a brother at that point.

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That's just a different religion.

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That's a Buddhist.

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That's a Hindu.

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That person is a pagan.

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They're worshiping pagan gods

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because they're not a Christian.

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They're a pagan.

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This is obviously someone who is claiming

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the name of Christ.

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This, because look, the Bible said,

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hey, you can hang around with fornicators

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as long as they're not called a brother

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and a fornicator.

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Because he said, if I told you

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that you have to withdraw from all fornicators,

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you'd have to just withdraw from the entire world.

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He's saying, no, no, no,

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you could go to work and eat with your buddy

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who is a fornicator or whatever.

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You know what?

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Because he's not in the church.

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But if somebody's in the church,

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if somebody is called a brother,

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if someone's claiming to be a Christian

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and they're doing these things,

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those are the people that we need to separate from.

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Well, here's the thing.

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Somebody who's bowing down to Buddha

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is not claiming to be a Christian.

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They're a Buddhist, okay?

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The people that need to be thrown out of the church

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are the quote-unquote Christian idolaters, right?

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So what are they gonna be bowing down to?

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Well, they're gonna be bowing down to an image of Jesus.

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They're gonna be bowing down to an image of Mary.

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They're gonna be bowing down to an image of Saint this

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and Saint that and Saint Peter and Saint Andrew

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and Saint whatever.

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Santa Barbara and San Diego and San Francisco

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and whatever, whatever other saints there are.

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But the thing about this is that,

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you know, they're sitting there and saying,

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oh, well, now we can make an image of Jesus

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now that we've seen him.

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Okay, then what's with the Mary image?

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What's with the James image?

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James the less over here and you know,

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Judas not a scary it.

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Let's bow down to him too.

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He's one of the apostles, right?

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I mean, look, they bow down to a plethora of images

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that are not even claiming to be God.

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So then it becomes like,

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well, we're not really worshiping it,

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we're just venerating it.

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Well, if you're burning incense, you're serving it.

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That's what the Bible,

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if you're bowing down to it, you're serving it.

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That's what the Bible says.

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We've already established that.

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Go if you went to 2 Corinthians, chapter number six.

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2 Corinthians, chapter number six.

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And by the way, when it comes to Mary,

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there are two different Marys

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that are worshiped in the Catholic church,

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not just one.

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You say, oh, this is the real Mary snow white over here,

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super milky white Scandinavian Mary,

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that's the real Mary.

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Well, hold on a second,

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because what about the Virgin de Guadalupe?

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What about that Mary?

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Because you know that the Catholics also worship

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a Native American looking Mary.

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That makes a lot of sense, right?

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Oh yeah, because we all know

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the mother of Jesus was an Indian, right?

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We all know that Pocahontas is the mother of Jesus,

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right?

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Sacajawea is the mother of Jesus, right?

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Because you know what?

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Some guy had this vision and there's a miracle

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and he got revealed this, you know,

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Viet Hain de Guadalupe version of Mary

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and that's why you will see in Mexico

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and in Arizona, of course,

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because we have a lot of Mexican people

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that live here in Arizona,

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you will see them worshiping a brown Mary

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that is a different Mary,

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which is a Mary that came out

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within the last few hundred years.

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Why?

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So that they could appeal to the Indians

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with someone who looked like them.

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Why is it that they're not using

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the European version of Mary in Mexico?

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It's a different, look it up.

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You will see that I'm telling the truth

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that the Virgin of Guadalupe,

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this other Mary image is where this guy

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saw a vision of Mary appealing to,

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excuse me, appealing to him, yeah, exactly.

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But appearing to him as an Indian

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right, you remember that verse in the Bible

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where Mary shows up as an Indian?

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Remember that part?

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Yeah, me neither.

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There are very few mentions of Mary in the Bible.

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It doesn't take long to look at all of them

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and see that none of them is about her being an Indian.

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And, you know, that's not in like Second Louis

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and Clark 316 or something, okay.

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But look at Second Corinthians chapter six verse 16.

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It says, what agreement have the temple of God

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with idols, right?

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So like your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost.

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And there's no agreement between the temple of God and idols.

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What does idols mean?

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Images that are served, images that are worshiped.

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That is what idol means.

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As God has said, I will dwell in them and walk in them

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and I will be their God and they shall be my people.

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Why is there no mention of good images,

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good icons and idols?

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Go if you would to 1 Thessalonians 1 9

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and let me tell you the truth.

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And anybody who disputes this is a liar.

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Catholics don't care what the Bible says

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and the Orthodox don't care what the Bible says.

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And to say that they do care is a lie out of the pit of hell.

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And if you're saved and you believe that lie,

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you're an idiot, okay.

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And I'm telling you what,

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this has been a fight my entire life

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where Catholics want to be, you know,

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accepted by Christians and were evangelical Christians

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were like, oh Catholics are our brothers and sisters in Christ.

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And we have been fighting this battle our entire lives.

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I mean, when I was a teenager,

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I was arguing with people about this.

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As a young adult, I was arguing with people.

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We'd go to Baptist churches

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where they're teaching the right gospel

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and they'll say the pope is saved.

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You're like, what?

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The pope is the victor of hell.

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The pope is an antichrist.

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But it's like, oh, the pope is saved.

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Because back then it was John Paul.

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Evangelical churches are praising John Paul

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and they literally said like, well, our pope now,

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they say, I'm like, our pope?

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Instead of Baptist church.

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This is when I was a kid.

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It's always this battle of, oh, we gotta all just get along

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and we're all worshiping Jesus

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and Catholics are Christians too

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and they're saved and whatever.

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And we need Baptist pastors to thunder forth

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and say their rock is not our rock.

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Their Jesus is not our Jesus.

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They do not believe in salvation by grace through faith.

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They are idolaters.

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They are pagans.

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They are worshiping the queen of heaven.

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They are baking cakes under the queen of heaven

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and they're going to split hell wide open.

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That is what needs to be preached.

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Why?

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And you say, oh, you just hate Catholics.

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No, you know who hates Catholics?

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The idiots who are pretending that they're saved

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and just be like, all right, good job guys

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as they go to hell.

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The person who loves Catholics

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is going to tell them the truth

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and say, y'all are damned and you need to be saved.

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It's like, oh, you're fending Catholics.

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But here's the thing.

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When you preach truth, sometimes it's going to offend people

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but sometimes people need a good swift kick in the pants

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on the road to getting saved.

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Sometimes that'll wake them up

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and look, you say, I don't know,

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I think they need a soft message.

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Well, don't you think that there are a lot of people

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out there giving them a soft message?

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Well, okay, let's give them the other kind of message.

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Some, let Mr. Fufu, you know,

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Lufa pastor down the street,

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let him give the soft soap sermon

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and let me preach some fire and brimstone

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to these Catholics and wake them up a little bit.

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You know, maybe something will get through

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if the carrot doesn't work, the stick will work

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but something's going to work, hopefully.

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Look at 1 Thessalonians chapter one, verse nine.

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It says this, it says,

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for they themselves show of us

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what manner of entering in we have unto you

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and how you turned to God from idols

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to serve the living and true God.

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So it doesn't say, hey, you turned from the wrong image

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to the right image.

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You served idols, now you're serving icons,

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which is just a synonym for the same thing.

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Icons are idols, idols are icons.

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Well, one's three dimensional, one's two dimensional.

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It doesn't matter, okay?

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That's not the point.

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The point is that you're worshiping an image, okay?

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You can make it 3D, 2D, that's not the point.

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You're worshiping an image, that's the problem.

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That's what idolatry means.

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He doesn't say you turned from one image to another.

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He says you turned to God from idols

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to serve the living and true God

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and to wait for his son from heaven.

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So you're looking up to heaven saying,

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even so, come Lord Jesus,

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you're not looking at an image

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of a random long haired white dude on this earth

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and worshiping him.

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Go if you would to Exodus chapter 34.

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Exodus chapter 34,

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because now I wanna get into the subject

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of destroying idols, destroying idols.

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Because of course, Pastor Shelley recently did a sermon

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where he destroyed idols in the sermon.

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It was like a sermon that was geared toward kids.

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He was having a conference about the family and kids.

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So he preached a 10 commandment sermon

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that was geared toward children.

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And so for each of the different points,

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he had a different object lesson.

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So he's teaching them about thou shalt not steal,

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thou shalt not commit adultery, thou shalt not covet.

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And he's using these various object lessons.

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Well, when he talked about idols,

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he had a kid come up and take a hammer

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and smash some Mary idol, Mary statue, okay?

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And the Catholics are just flipping out online

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and, oh, what you did to the mother of God

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and all this stupid stuff, okay?

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Which here's the thing about it,

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millions of people literally saw this view

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of Mary being smashed.

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And they're all mad, they're all upset

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and all flipping out.

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And then what was funny is,

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then right after that, a couple days later,

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there was a Catholic priest

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and the Jesus idol that was above his head

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of the long haired random dude

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that was hanging up there,

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literally while the guy's doing his hocus pocus mumbo jumbo,

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the Catholic priest guiding souls to hell

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with his lying pagan false gospel,

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the idol comes and just smashes him on the head

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and kills him.

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So I was saying, you know, in the NIFP,

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we smashed the idols and the Catholic church,

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the idols smashed the pastor, okay?

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But is it biblical to destroy idols?

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Is it biblical?

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Was Pastor Shelley just going over the top

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and he's just a wild man and he just got so crazy?

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How dare he smash the idols and it's so offensive?

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What does the Bible say?

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Look at Exodus 34, 13, it says,

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but ye shall destroy their altars,

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break their images and cut down their groves.

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For thou shalt worship no other God

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for the Lord whose name is jealous is a jealous God.

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Look at numbers.

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And again, we're only gonna look at a small sampling

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for sake of time because this is one

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where we could be here all night

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just looking at destruction of idols alone, okay?

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You say, oh, how dare you destroy beauty and art

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and artwork and whatever.

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You know what?

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If it's something that people are worshiping,

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it needs to be destroyed.

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If it's an image that's getting worshiped,

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it needs to be destroyed.

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Catholics will come along and say,

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well, what about the cherry-beam?

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Hmm, because they'll say, well, on the Ark of the Covenant,

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you know, God had them make cherry-beam

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with the wings stretched out,

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covering the mercy seat on the Ark of the Covenant.

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What about that?

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Hmm, well, here's the thing about that

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is that the Ark of the Covenant

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is kept behind two different sets of curtains

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and so it's literally impossible for anyone

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to worship and serve those cherry-beams

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because they don't see them,

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because they can't see them

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because they are behind a curtain in the inner sanctum,

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not even the holy place, but the most holy place,

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the holy of holies, that is where those things resided.

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So there's not a danger,

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there's not a problem of people worshiping

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and bowing down to it.

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Okay, here's another time that God told them

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to make an image.

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He has to make the brazen serpent and put it on the pole.

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But notice that later they start to burn incense

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to the brazen serpent.

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And what happens when they burn incense

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to the brazen serpent?

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The man of God destroys it

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and scripture praises him for destroying it.

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So notice, even if it's an image

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that God told them to make,

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if he said, make this picture,

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make this sculpture, make this image,

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and then somebody starts worshiping it

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or burning incense to it, destroy it, smoke it.

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And again, with the cherry-beams,

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they're behind closed doors anyway.

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They're in the temple.

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They're behind a curtain.

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And it's sort of like this.

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Pastor Shelley, I believe he used this illustration.

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He said, obviously God is telling them

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not to make any images

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because he doesn't want them to be tempted

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to worship these things.

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That's what he says over and over again.

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We've seen it.

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It'd be sort of like if I said,

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hey, I don't want any kids up on the platform, right?

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Because this is what Pastor Shelley

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used as an illustration.

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He said he has a rule of discharge,

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no kids up on the platform, right?

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But then if he told a kid,

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hey, come up on the platform for an illustration,

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for a special exception,

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because he's the boss, because he's the authority.

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He can say, yeah, there's a rule

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against having kids up here for safety,

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but I'm making an exception.

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Come up here and be up here.

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It's like the Bible says that men should have short hair

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and women should have long hair.

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But there could be an exception of,

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hey, Samson's not gonna cut his hair

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because God is trying to illustrate something.

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Okay, what about when Isaiah is told to preach naked?

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Normally, that's not allowed, right?

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It's not like, hey, I'm gonna be like Isaiah,

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just preach naked.

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No, because the point is that, yeah, nakedness is a shame.

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Long hair is a shame,

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but God is asking them to do something shameful

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just to make a point.

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He told Hosea to marry a hoarse woman.

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Elsewhere, he's saying that the priest

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and the man of God should not be marrying a hoarse woman.

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And so therefore, obviously the God

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who is making these rules could have a certain exception

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for a certain reason where he tells them,

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hey, put these cherry beams on the ark.

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It's not a problem.

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It's not an issue.

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They're behind the Holy of Holies,

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curtain and everything like that.

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The brazen serpent was to make a point.

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He made his point and then as soon as people

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start burning incense to it, it becomes sinful.

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Serving it is sinful.

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Even some of the God told them to make

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if you burn incense to it, you're sinning.

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So even if you claim like this picture of Mary is legitimate,

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this picture of St. Peter is legitimate,

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if you're burning incense to it, it's Nahushitan.

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Destroy it.

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Where'd I have you turn, numbers?

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Look at numbers 33, 52.

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Then you shall drive out all the inhabitants

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of the land from before you.

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Watch this and destroy all their, what?

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As long as it's not 3D, what does it say?

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Destroy all their pictures and destroy

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all their molten images and quite

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pull it down all their high places.

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So again, any image that is an object of worship

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needs to be destroyed because it is idolatry.

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Deuteronomy 7.5, you don't have to turn to these,

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but Deuteronomy 7.5, he says,

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you shall destroy their altars,

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break down their images, cut down their groves

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and burn their graven images with fire.

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Deuteronomy 12, he says the same thing.

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Overthrow their altars, break their pillars,

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burn their groves with fire,

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hew down the graven images of their gods,

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destroy the names of them out of that place.

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Okay, then we get into the kings, like Asa.

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Second Chronicles 14.3, he took away

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the altars of the strange gods and the high places

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and break down the images, cut down the groves.

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Hezekiah 2 Kings 18.4, he removed the high places,

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break the images, cut down the groves.

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He break in pieces the brazen serpent

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that Moses had made for under those days.

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The children of Israel did burn incense to it

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and he called it Nuhustan.

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Second Chronicles 31.1 also talks about him

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breaking the images and pieces, et cetera, et cetera.

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So it seemed pretty biblical to break idols.

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Now here's what's so funny about this

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is that all these biblical examples,

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they're not going to the store

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and buying an idol and breaking it.

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They're breaking somebody else's idols.

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Like they're literally going to the places

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where those people worship their gods.

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It'd be like if we went into a Catholic church

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and just started breaking the idolatry

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and just tearing down the Catholic churches

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or take a wrecking ball to the Buddhist temple,

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wrecking ball to the Hindu temple,

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wrecking ball to the Greek Orthodox pagan church.

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Okay, now look, obviously I understand

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there's a difference between the New Testament

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and the Old Testament.

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The reason that they did that in the Old Testament

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is because their nation was supposed to be

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a peculiar people, a special nation

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that geographically was supposed to be a place

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where only the Lord is worshiped.

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And so that had to be enforced

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in order to have a patterned nation

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of people worshiping the Lord.

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You know, you have to make sure

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that only the Lord is worshiped and so forth.

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In the New Testament,

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we are supposed to be preaching to all nations.

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We're not geographically restricted.

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We're preaching the gospel to all nations

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and we're in the world, but not of the world.

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And we're not wrestling against flesh and blood.

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We're not going out and physically fighting the Philistines,

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physically fighting the Moabites.

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It's a spiritual battle for the hearts of men.

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And so instead of casting down idols

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and casting down the altar of Baal,

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we're casting down imaginations, right?

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That's what the Bible says.

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You know, it's a mental thing.

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It is idols and things and strongholds

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and false doctrines and things

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that we're tearing down in people's minds, okay?

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And so by Pastor Shelley,

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taking a Mary statue that belongs to him,

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because he bothered at the store,

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so he's not going and breaking American law or something.

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You know, he's getting one of the belongs to him

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and he's smashing it on camera

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because he's trying to tear down the idol in your mind.

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Right? What is he trying to do?

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He's trying to cast down imaginations.

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This imaginary fake Mary.

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This imaginary false God.

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This imaginary fake religion of Catholicism.

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He's wanting to cast that down and tear that down.

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He wants people to see

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that fake retarded image be destroyed.

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That's what he's trying to do.

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And he did it.

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And the message went out to millions of people.

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Mission accomplished.

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Mission accomplished.

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And you know what?

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Here's what it accomplishes.

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I guarantee you that that image of him destroying idols

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was seen by hundreds of thousands of evangelical Christians.

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And you know what?

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It's reminding them Catholics are unsaved.

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They are the mission field.

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They are pagans.

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We need to convert them to the gospel of Christ.

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Because if you didn't have a Pastor Shelley

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up there saying that,

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you know what?

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People think that the Catholics are fine.

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I've been in the Baptist Church as our Pope

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and John Paul is in heaven

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and all that Mother Teresa is in heaven.

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And oh, you know, all these wonderful Catholics.

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And you know, I mean, my dad sat in a Baptist Sunday school

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and they were going through a book in the Sunday school

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written by a Catholic priest.

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And he said, here's what Father So-and-So says.

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And they're reading this in a Baptist Sunday school.

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Okay, well guess what?

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These Baptists that are involved in that,

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they need to see a hair-legged man of God

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get up and smash Mary and say,

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this is what you ought to be doing on Sunday morning.

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This is what you ought to be doing on Sunday night.

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This is what you ought to be doing on Wednesday night.

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Not necessarily smashing the physical object,

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but smashing the heresy,

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smashing the false doctrine.

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He's using a physical representation

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of what we should be doing spiritually as Baptists.

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You say, yeah, but it was also seen by Catholics.

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You know, it wasn't just seen,

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because look, it was seen by a lot of evangelical Christians.

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I saw it.

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You know, who saw it?

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Put up your hand if you saw it.

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Yeah, a bunch of people, yeah.

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But I guarantee you,

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tons of other little liberal non-denom,

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you know, Calvary Chapel, Southern Baptists,

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Independent Fundamental Baptists,

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New IFB, Old IFB, right?

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All kinds of people saw it.

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I'm talking, you know, brothers and sisters in Christ.

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Saved Christians of all stripes,

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saw it, and it's reminding them, hey, that's right.

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The Bible does say to smash idolatry.

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I'ma smash it with the Bible.

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Smash it with the Word of God.

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Smash it with the truth.

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Effective.

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Getting the message out to millions of people,

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I'd say is effective.

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Now look, we should never do something stupid

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or sinful in order to just get attention.

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Like, hey, let me just do something stupid

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so I can get attention online.

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Let me do something sinful to get attention online.

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Let me just be the shock jock

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and just do something wild to get attention.

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But let me tell you something.

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Smashing idols is not sinful, stupid, or wild.

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It is straight out of the pages of the Bible.

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So why would it be wrong to want to put up a video

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online and get a message out to millions of people?

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Thus shall it be the Lord.

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Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven images.

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Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.

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Oh, he's just trying to get attention.

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Yeah, he is.

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Attention on the Word of God.

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Attention on the Gospel.

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Attention on the truth.

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Ah, you're just doing that for me.

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Yeah, I have an idea.

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Why don't we upload all our sermons

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and just call them October 21st, 2026

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because we don't want to be looking for attention?

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You know, why don't we just preach boring, lame, weak,

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watered down sermons?

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Because, you know, we don't want to be just like

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looking for attention.

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You know, here's the thing.

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It doesn't matter how good the sermon is

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if nobody's listening to it.

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And look, if God just hates drama so much,

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then why did he have Isaiah preach naked?

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That's what I'd like to know.

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If God just hates drama so much,

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why does he have Ezekiel cutting off his hair,

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throwing it in the fire,

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building a little city,

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and besieging it with army men?

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Why does he have him lay on his side for 390 days?

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Why does he have Hosea marry a whore?

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Because he just hates drama.

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He doesn't like this kind of shocking preaching or whatever.

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First of all, if you're shocked by a Mary statue

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being smashed, it doesn't take much to get you going.

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Because I'm just like, I'm like that,

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I'm like that Bugs Bunny meme,

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just kind of like.

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Just blown away idols, you know?

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Where he's just like.

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That's how I feel about breaking idols.

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I'm just like, eh, break another one.

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I do that for fun, man.

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That's not even work.

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It's a pleasure to destroy idols.

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It's like, what is this song?

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It's a shock.

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How is that shocking when it's like

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the mellowest, most chill thing ever

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to somebody who doesn't believe in idols?

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Yeah, of course, Catholics are freaking out.

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They're like, that's the mother of Jesus, what are you doing?

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It's like, we all know that that's just a random chick.

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Look, folks, there is absolutely nothing wrong

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with smashing idols as an illustration

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in a church service to drive home a point

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any more than any other object lessons.

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And you know, this lame old IFB preacher

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made a video trashing Pastor Shelly for this.

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And he just said, you've just now ruined

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any chance you have of reaching Catholics.

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And I'm thinking to myself, I'm thinking to myself,

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okay, so when I go outdoor to our soul winning now,

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here's the problem.

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There's the problem of having out soul winning.

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Every single Catholic on the planet

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has seen Pastor Shelly's video now.

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I mean, I didn't realize we had that kind of reach,

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but apparently, now look, I know the video

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has been seen by millions of people,

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but apparently it's been seen by all one billion Catholics.

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And so now, every time we go to a door

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and talk to a Catholic, they're just like, I'm sorry,

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but you know, your friend Pastor Shelly

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destroyed that Mary statue and now I'm done

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with any chance of hearing the gospel for a while.

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I mean, this is so stupid.

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You know why it's so stupid is because

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if you look at the bulletin and look at the number

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of how many people our church has had saved,

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you see that gigantic number?

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What is it?

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I don't have a bulletin.

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How many people as our church, just faithful word?

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So 5,700 people have been saved as a result

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of the work of faithful word Baptist Church

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so far this year, it's October.

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So far we got 5,700 some salvation.

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Okay, let me explain to you real quick, okay?

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99% of those salvation did not happen in this building.

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Everybody understand that?

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99% of those salvation happened where?

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Out there, out there.

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In most of them, the majority of them,

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more than a hundred miles from this place.

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I mean like, right?

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Because how many dozens and hundreds of people

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got saved at universities in Southern California, right?

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Universities in Nevada, universities in New Mexico,

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Arkansas, we just went to Northwest Arkansas,

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did a big thing, right?

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Okay, Southern Caribbean, Bahamas, Navajo Reservation,

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Apache Reservation, right?

58:13.080 --> 58:13.400
Everybody following?

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And then also we did have many hundreds of people

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saved, probably even thousands,

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locally here in ASU campus, Grand Canyon University,

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up and down the neighborhoods,

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just door-to-door soul winning

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through the residential neighborhoods, right?

58:36.600 --> 58:38.640
All the different soul winning that has gone on.

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But you know what, all of these things

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have in common, whether it's college campuses,

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Mission Field, Bahamas, Apache Res,

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University of Nevada, Las Vegas,

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you know what these all have in common?

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Is that these are people that are not

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watching us on the internet,

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they're not watching Pastor Shelley on the internet.

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I mean, I wanna know, how many people

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were you out soul winning this year in 2025?

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Because look, if you wanna know

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who got those 5,700 people saved,

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look around, it's us, right?

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Okay, how many people would say

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one of those people that I wanted to cry,

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somebody told me I watched Pastor Shelley online

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and they either got saved or didn't get saved?

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Okay, so here's the thing, how many of them told you

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I already listened to Pastor Anderson online?

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You knocked the door and they said,

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I already listened to Pastor,

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there's a couple, but not many,

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because the vast majority of those people

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have never heard of me or Pastor Shelley,

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we're walking up to random strangers

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and getting people saved.

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Therefore, even if Pastor Shelley and I

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just completely destroyed our reputations,

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which we didn't, but I'm saying even if we did, right?

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Black school kids in the Bahamas wouldn't care.

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Indians on the Apache res wouldn't care.

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They're still gonna hear the gospel,

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they're still gonna get saved, right?

01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:04.780
The no obloying glass doors that I knock on

01:00:04.780 --> 01:00:06.980
in Phoenix, Arizona, they don't know

01:00:06.980 --> 01:00:07.880
and they don't care.

01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:12.140
Oh, I can't be used of God, I can't go soul winning

01:00:12.140 --> 01:00:14.120
because my reputation's too bad.

01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:17.100
Well, you know, learn Spanish and then probably people

01:00:17.100 --> 01:00:20.420
for sure have never heard of you, right?

01:00:23.300 --> 01:00:26.140
This is so stupid, oh, you can't reach Catholics now.

01:00:26.520 --> 01:00:28.700
Okay, you know how many salvation,

01:00:28.980 --> 01:00:30.460
steadfast Baptist churches have,

01:00:30.620 --> 01:00:32.560
if you include the Philippines,

01:00:32.720 --> 01:00:35.380
because they have missionaries in the Philippines

01:00:35.380 --> 01:00:38.320
that they're supporting full time, right?

01:00:38.720 --> 01:00:40.700
They've got their church in Texas,

01:00:41.060 --> 01:00:42.820
mission strips, the bombs, they've had,

01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:47.360
so far this year, like 15,000 salvation, okay?

01:00:48.820 --> 01:00:51.580
But it's like, but then some old IFB,

01:00:52.560 --> 01:00:55.400
Zio Boomer, is just like,

01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:57.600
well now you just ruined your chance to miss Catholics.

01:00:57.780 --> 01:00:59.220
Okay, you know what Pastor Shelley said?

01:00:59.600 --> 01:01:00.600
He said, well, you know what?

01:01:00.820 --> 01:01:02.080
Why don't I just go on pause

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and I'll give you guys some time to keep up

01:01:03.700 --> 01:01:06.300
and catch up, you know?

01:01:06.460 --> 01:01:09.000
We'll see it in a hundred years when you catch up.

01:01:10.360 --> 01:01:13.220
I mean, it's absurd to sit there and say,

01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:15.000
oh, y'all are running people off.

01:01:15.300 --> 01:01:16.160
Well, let me explain some to you.

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There's two ways that we reach people.

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There's two ways that Faith Forward Baptist Church

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reaches people.

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Number one is the number in the bulletin.

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5,700 people, that is the people

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that we actually physically went out

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and talked to face-to-face, right?

01:01:35.020 --> 01:01:36.660
We're actually talking to people face-to-face,

01:01:36.820 --> 01:01:37.440
interacting with them.

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But you know, our church actually reaches a lot more

01:01:40.100 --> 01:01:41.320
than that with the Gospel too,

01:01:41.740 --> 01:01:44.040
just through the sermons being online

01:01:44.040 --> 01:01:46.520
and the preaching and the clips that are online.

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Let me ask this question now.

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Okay, who here is sitting in this auditorium

01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:52.020
and you would say, well, Pastor Anderson,

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I got saved just from watching your preaching online

01:01:55.340 --> 01:01:57.360
or watching your Bible Way to Heaven video

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or soul winning demonstration.

01:01:58.900 --> 01:02:00.720
Okay, so look, hands all over the building.

01:02:01.260 --> 01:02:03.000
This is the other way that we get people saved.

01:02:03.100 --> 01:02:04.300
We don't just only get people saved

01:02:04.300 --> 01:02:05.660
through one-on-one soul winning,

01:02:05.900 --> 01:02:08.560
we also get people saved through our internet ministry.

01:02:09.680 --> 01:02:13.980
Okay, so, hmm, how did y'all even hear

01:02:13.980 --> 01:02:15.800
about Pastor Anderson in the first place?

01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:19.780
Why, out of all of the churches in the world,

01:02:20.120 --> 01:02:21.320
all the preaching in the world,

01:02:21.640 --> 01:02:23.680
how did you even find out about Pastor Anderson

01:02:23.680 --> 01:02:26.200
so that all of y'all could hear the Gospel and get saved?

01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:29.240
Well, was it perhaps the time

01:02:29.240 --> 01:02:33.220
that I preached why Billy Graham is going to hell in 2007

01:02:33.740 --> 01:02:35.540
and got millions of views on YouTube

01:02:35.540 --> 01:02:37.360
saying Billy Graham's going to hell?

01:02:38.020 --> 01:02:40.720
Was it when I preached Joel Osteen Exposed

01:02:40.720 --> 01:02:42.960
and got two million views in 2007?

01:02:43.780 --> 01:02:46.740
Maybe it was in 2008 when I was ripping

01:02:46.740 --> 01:02:50.760
on the Republican Party for blacking out on Ron Paul

01:02:50.760 --> 01:02:53.120
and I was getting hundreds of thousands of views on that.

01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:55.320
I don't know, maybe it was in 2009

01:02:55.320 --> 01:02:57.440
when I got beaten and tased by the border patrol.

01:02:57.440 --> 01:02:59.260
I mean, feel free to raise your hand at any time

01:02:59.260 --> 01:03:00.680
if any of these apply to you.

01:03:01.140 --> 01:03:03.080
Hey, maybe it was when I was beaten and tazored

01:03:03.080 --> 01:03:04.160
by the border patrol in 2009.

01:03:04.620 --> 01:03:06.180
Maybe it was when I prayed for Obama

01:03:06.180 --> 01:03:08.460
to melt like a snail in late 2009.

01:03:09.140 --> 01:03:10.640
Yeah, God bless you, I see that end.

01:03:11.500 --> 01:03:14.400
Maybe it was when we came out with videos

01:03:15.700 --> 01:03:18.040
about why the preacher perhaps was a fraud.

01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:20.800
Maybe it was the video on the King James.

01:03:21.260 --> 01:03:24.460
Maybe it was the one when we tricked Holocaust survivors

01:03:24.460 --> 01:03:26.980
into participating in an anti-Semitic film.

01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:29.160
Come on, I want to see those hands.

01:03:29.660 --> 01:03:31.700
Yeah, there we go, God bless you, I see those hands.

01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:36.660
I mean, maybe it was when we said

01:03:36.660 --> 01:03:38.480
we could have an age-free Christmas

01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:40.560
if all homos are executed by Christmas.

01:03:43.160 --> 01:03:45.740
I don't know, maybe it could have been,

01:03:47.020 --> 01:03:48.700
it's like we could go on and on.

01:03:49.040 --> 01:03:51.780
It's like this is the way this whole

01:03:52.820 --> 01:03:54.460
history of our church has gone.

01:03:55.360 --> 01:03:58.320
That was just a quick little tour of just a few.

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I don't know, I mean, we could keep going if you want.

01:04:00.600 --> 01:04:01.920
I mean, maybe it was the time

01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:04.300
that we all put on free Palestine shirts

01:04:04.300 --> 01:04:06.160
and went to Dearborn, Michigan,

01:04:06.340 --> 01:04:07.900
the Muslim capital of America,

01:04:07.900 --> 01:04:12.080
and went soul-winning handing out Arabic-dubbed copies

01:04:12.080 --> 01:04:15.420
of Marching Desire, and got Muslims saved.

01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:17.100
Maybe that was it.

01:04:18.600 --> 01:04:20.480
Did you notice that we've kind of done

01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:23.580
some dramatic hell-raising things over the years

01:04:24.420 --> 01:04:25.800
to get attention?

01:04:26.520 --> 01:04:28.120
But you know what, all of these things,

01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:29.940
you know what these things have in common is that

01:04:30.920 --> 01:04:33.840
we were right, we were biblical,

01:04:34.440 --> 01:04:36.020
the Bible was ours, we weren't just doing

01:04:36.020 --> 01:04:37.880
stupid or unbiblical things to get attention,

01:04:38.180 --> 01:04:41.040
we're doing righteous, good biblical things,

01:04:41.240 --> 01:04:42.920
but we were raising some hell,

01:04:44.300 --> 01:04:47.200
and that's how people end up finding out about us,

01:04:47.260 --> 01:04:48.280
and then what do they get while they,

01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:51.400
they come for the drama, quote-unquote,

01:04:51.460 --> 01:04:52.660
but they stay for the gospel.

01:04:53.720 --> 01:04:56.480
So we have two pronged attack here.

01:04:56.840 --> 01:05:00.340
We have the door-to-door soul-winning with strangers,

01:05:00.460 --> 01:05:02.540
and we have the hell-raising on the internet.

01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:05.200
Like, it's like, did you just stumble in here,

01:05:05.240 --> 01:05:07.800
you don't understand the church or the ministry here?

01:05:09.560 --> 01:05:14.100
Oh, Pastor Anderson, all this preaching is feminism,

01:05:14.640 --> 01:05:16.800
and you're saying all these wild things.

01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:17.860
First of all, I'm saying stuff

01:05:17.860 --> 01:05:19.960
that everyone would have agreed with a hundred years ago.

01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:21.240
Everyone.

01:05:22.200 --> 01:05:24.580
But it's like, oh, these crazy things.

01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:26.220
Oh, you're going viral.

01:05:26.780 --> 01:05:30.800
Oh, 3.2 million views about turning the other cheek

01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:32.160
if you get slapped and everything.

01:05:32.600 --> 01:05:34.820
It's like, bro, this is our bread and butter.

01:05:36.740 --> 01:05:38.000
This is what we do.

01:05:38.760 --> 01:05:40.080
This is who we are.

01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:42.100
Get in or get out.

01:05:42.480 --> 01:05:45.060
Go to your little lame, baby-sitting,

01:05:45.620 --> 01:05:47.780
scaredy-cat little old IFB church

01:05:47.780 --> 01:05:50.820
that's afraid to go viral, afraid to take a stand,

01:05:50.900 --> 01:05:52.540
and when they do accidentally go viral,

01:05:52.720 --> 01:05:54.480
they're like, my name's Jeff Owens,

01:05:54.520 --> 01:05:56.740
and I'm so sorry about what I said about gay people.

01:05:59.800 --> 01:06:01.760
I mean, does everybody understand what I'm saying?

01:06:02.020 --> 01:06:03.560
It's like, oh, you ruined your...

01:06:03.560 --> 01:06:06.320
Look, even if I pissed off every single Catholic

01:06:06.320 --> 01:06:08.000
on the internet, you know what we're gonna do?

01:06:08.300 --> 01:06:10.160
We're gonna sneak up on Catholics in real life,

01:06:10.180 --> 01:06:12.000
and they've never even seen Pastor Shelley's video,

01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:13.720
and they'll never even know.

01:06:13.720 --> 01:06:14.320
Ah!

01:06:14.320 --> 01:06:14.520
Ah!

01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:22.840
Oh, you just ruined your chances with Catholics.

01:06:23.260 --> 01:06:23.820
Well, you know what?

01:06:24.220 --> 01:06:26.520
Show me your faith without your works, buddy,

01:06:26.720 --> 01:06:28.940
and I'll show you my faith by my works.

01:06:29.180 --> 01:06:31.600
Let's look at all the Catholics that you've wanted to Lord,

01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:32.980
and let's look at all the Catholics

01:06:32.980 --> 01:06:34.560
that the IFB's wanting to Lord,

01:06:34.980 --> 01:06:37.800
and let's see who is failing to reach Catholics.

01:06:38.600 --> 01:06:42.200
And by the way, we've had Jews saved

01:06:42.200 --> 01:06:43.840
because they watched marching design.

01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:46.380
I've had people come up to me and say,

01:06:46.420 --> 01:06:48.520
I was a Seventh-day Adventist, and I got saved

01:06:48.520 --> 01:06:50.620
because of your sermon against Seventh-day Adventists,

01:06:50.640 --> 01:06:51.780
and that was not a nice sermon.

01:06:53.820 --> 01:06:55.620
I mean, I'm ripping on Hindus,

01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:57.240
and Hindus are getting saved.

01:06:57.980 --> 01:07:00.500
I'm ripping on Buddhists, and Buddhists are getting saved.

01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:02.100
I got the testimonies.

01:07:04.040 --> 01:07:08.280
Some people are gonna be saved with compassion,

01:07:08.940 --> 01:07:12.060
others you save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,

01:07:12.940 --> 01:07:15.680
hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

01:07:16.700 --> 01:07:20.620
And so the stupid holier-than-thou Monday morning quarterback

01:07:20.620 --> 01:07:23.980
sitting back and like, oh, yeah, you know,

01:07:24.120 --> 01:07:26.480
that Pastor Shelley, there's a guy

01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:28.620
who's just trying to get a reaction,

01:07:29.260 --> 01:07:30.960
he's not trying to reach somebody.

01:07:32.180 --> 01:07:37.340
We don't get Muslims saved by burning a Quran

01:07:37.340 --> 01:07:38.200
right in front of him.

01:07:38.460 --> 01:07:41.420
It's like, bro, this is our place, this is our house,

01:07:41.500 --> 01:07:45.660
this is Fubu Baptist for us by us, okay?

01:07:46.120 --> 01:07:49.340
And so we do what we want in our own house,

01:07:49.460 --> 01:07:50.140
in our own church.

01:07:50.340 --> 01:07:53.180
It's like he's preaching to Baptists, breaking idols.

01:07:53.800 --> 01:07:56.560
He doesn't take a backpack full of Mary statues

01:07:56.560 --> 01:07:57.740
and he knocks on the door.

01:07:57.960 --> 01:07:59.160
You mentioned you were Catholic.

01:07:59.720 --> 01:08:01.840
Let me just try something with you real quick.

01:08:02.220 --> 01:08:03.840
Smash the idol and then say,

01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:06.160
may I share with you the gospel of Christ?

01:08:07.640 --> 01:08:10.880
So it's stupid, it's like, so what if I burned a Quran?

01:08:11.100 --> 01:08:12.100
Is that gonna offend, bro?

01:08:12.840 --> 01:08:14.620
Because I'm not doing it, if I go soul-winning,

01:08:14.740 --> 01:08:16.100
I'm not gonna do it on the doorstep.

01:08:17.160 --> 01:08:20.280
I'm not gonna put a Quran in a brown paper bag,

01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:22.260
light it on fire, knock on the door

01:08:22.260 --> 01:08:23.280
and then run away or something.

01:08:24.180 --> 01:08:25.380
That's some kind of a prank.

01:08:26.180 --> 01:08:27.980
Like, what is this guy talking about, like,

01:08:28.180 --> 01:08:30.720
oh, if you wanna reach, that's not how you reach him.

01:08:30.980 --> 01:08:32.360
Yeah, if you want, we can show you

01:08:32.360 --> 01:08:34.340
how to reach people more effectively, if you want.

01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:36.320
Because we've been doing it for 20 years.

01:08:38.220 --> 01:08:40.920
Oh yeah, that's just a guy who's just looking for attention.

01:08:41.980 --> 01:08:43.580
He's not trying to reach somebody.

01:08:43.740 --> 01:08:45.600
No crop, we're not trying to reach somebody.

01:08:45.740 --> 01:08:47.720
Everybody in the auditorium's already saved.

01:08:48.380 --> 01:08:52.120
It's a baptized, born again, called out assembly.

01:08:53.800 --> 01:08:55.960
We go out there to do the soul-winning

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and in here, we preach the word of God

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and then we put it on the internet

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to basically wake people up a little bit.

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And it works, the system works,

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the salvations speak for themselves,

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the church, and look,

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steadfast Baptist church is running like 2.50

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on Sunday mornings, you know?

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It's like, they're doing something, right?

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But oh, you know, yeah, you just,

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and then they said, oh, these kids are gonna grow up

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and feel bad about what they've done.

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About smashing a merry idol.

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You know what?

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If some kid grows up and feels bad

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that they smashed a merry idol when they were a kid,

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well, the kid's an idiot anyway.

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Sorry that you grew up and rejected the Baptist faith,

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enjoy hell.

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Did you hear what I said?

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If a kid grows up and has remorse

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about smashing an idol,

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sorry that you grew up and rejected your Baptist faith

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and embraced Roman Catholicism, enjoy hell.

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That seems to be a good place to end the sermon.

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Let's buy it, it's never worth a prayer.

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Father, we thank you so much for your word, Lord.

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We thank you so much for the clarity on this subject.

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And Lord, thank you for giving us clarity

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on so many subjects.

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And Lord, the Bible just cuts through all the lies

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and all through the slanders and criticisms

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of all the Monday morning quarterbacks

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and all the holier than thou's

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and all of the Zio boomer, old IFB,

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watered down, weak churches, Lord.

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Thank you for giving us the word,

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a light unto our feet, a light to our path, Lord.

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Help us to always follow your word.

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And Lord, help us to go out there

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and be kind and gentle and loving one-on-one

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and our soul-winning Lord.

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But I pray, Lord, that we would continue

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to raise hell on the internet as well, Lord.

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And that you would continue to allow us

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to reach millions of people every month on the internet,

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Lord, because those people, they need the truth.

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And Lord, I pray that you just wake up Catholics.

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I pray that you would use Pastor Shelley's video

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to wake up Catholics and also wake up evangelicals

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so that they'll get motivated to preach to Catholics

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with compassion when needed and saving with fear

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when warranted.

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And in Jesus' name we pray, amen.