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Man second Kings chapter number 21 we finished up with the life of Hezekiah and

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Hezekiah was one of those really rare

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Super godly kings that did all the right things and so he was dedicated a few different chapters

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We saw everything with him, but unfortunately although Hezekiah was the greatest king in the history of Judah

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No one before him no one after him was as great of a king

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His son ends up just being super wicked in the sight of God and that is his son

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Manassee now look at verse number one there of chapter 21

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it says

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Manassee was 12 years old when he began to reign and

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Reigned 50 and 5 years in Jerusalem and his mother's name was Hepsiba and he did that which was evil in the side of

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The Lord after the abominations of the heathen whom the Lord cast out before the children of Israel

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And then it's gonna go on to just catalog all of the wickedness of this guy and he's reigning for 55 years

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So he's able to do a lot of damage

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To the work of God the temple of God the people of God and just really just destroy everything

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But at the same time we need to understand is that a 12-year-old boy is

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Probably not a very powerful person when he first takes power

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and if you remember we had a story many chapters ago of

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Joash and Joash began to reign when he was eight years old

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But who was really in charge who was really pulling the strings?

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It was Jehoiad of the high priest and Jehoiad of the high priest was a great man of God a

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Powerful leader and so because he was in charge

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Even though you put an eight-year-old on the throne

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Everything actually went really well and as Joash got older

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He had Jehoiad of shepherding him through teenage years adult years

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Jehoiad had a lot of power and

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Everything was great until Jehoiad died and then of course Joash ended up

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You know getting into sin and murder and becoming a bad person in the end

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But as long as Jehoiad was around he was doing great. So obviously here. We either have a

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No one is really shepherding

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Manasseh here and guiding him and running things. That's very unlikely

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be the people who are shepherding him and guiding him are bad people and

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so in order for a 12 year old to just take the nation from

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Totally serving God and loving God and following God to following the devil

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Obviously the people are complicit in this. They're obviously going along with it

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I don't think a 12 year old just came and screwed everything up by himself

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Okay, and in many ways the leaders can be a reflection of the people that they're ruling over

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And that's especially true in our country where we have this Democratic Republic

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Where we elect people, you know if we look at our leaders and their trash

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It's really because you know

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it's a reflection of the moral decay of our country that we just elect

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Adulterers and sodomites and just wicked people

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Covetches, whatever and so yeah Manasseh's 12 years old and no 12 year old is

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Capable of running their own life let alone running a nation

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Okay, like how many 12 year olds do you know who have moved out and they're living on their own

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They have an apartment. They have a career. They they're homeowners. It doesn't it literally doesn't exist

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No 12 year old is capable now a lot of 12 year olds think that they're capable of that and

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14 year olds and 15 year olds, but I also don't know of any 14 year olds

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You know running their own households and doing their own thing and so this 12 year old he's put in power

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He's probably under some really dark influences bad influences

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So instead of following in the footsteps of his father has a kia who's a great man of God

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He ends up going down this evil dark path look at verse number three

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It says for he built again the high places which has a kia his father had destroyed

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So he's basically just doing exactly the opposite of what his father has taught him and

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It says he reared up altars for bail and made a grove as did Ahab king of Israel and worshiped all the hosts of heaven and

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Serve them and he built altars in the house of the Lord of which the Lord had said in Jerusalem

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Well, I put my name there and he built altars for all the hosts of heaven in the two courts of the house of the Lord

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So if you look at the catalog of his sins

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It's really mainly just false religion. You know, it's just idols idolatry

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groves bail

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Images high places altars. It's really all but false religion and you say well, you know

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Does that really make him a bad guy and the answer is yes

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Because false religion is the most wicked thing that there is and you know, it's funny people have this attitude of like well

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You know, some of these Catholics are really good people and some of these Hindus are really good people and some of these

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Buddhists are really good people

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Where's the thing is that maybe in certain areas of their life they're doing good things and have morals and so forth

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But at the end of the day people who are involved in false religion are not good people because false religion is a wicked sin

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Like just by itself in and of itself just being Catholic is wicked just being a Buddhist is wicked

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Just being a Hindu is wicked and I understand that some people are just born and raised in these religions and they grow up that way

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But you know what at the end of the day at some point you have to decide

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Whether you're gonna continue to worship the false gods that our fathers worshiped on the other side of the flood

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Or whether you're gonna worship the Lord, but as for me in my house

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We will worship the Lord and so you make that decision for yourself every Buddhist every Hindu every Catholic

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Eventually is an adult and they know what's going on and they make a decision and they either stay with idolatry and wickedness and paganism or

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They get saved they turn to God from idols to serve the living and true God, okay?

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And so yeah, just idolatry by itself is wicked

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So you say oh, but they're such nice people. They're such good people

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Well, here's the thing Manasseh is wicked in the side of the Lord

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He did evil in the side of the Lord and what does that look like? It looks like graven images

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Molten images worshiping false gods false religion. That is the worst thing. I mean think about it

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You know, that's what sends people to hell more than anything

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Yeah, alcohols destructive

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Fornications destructive adulteries destructive drugs are destructive stealing is destructive

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But what is sending people to hell more than anything is lies about God false religion false doctrine false

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Profits that is really ultimately the worst thing and when God's looking down from heaven and saying this guy did good in the

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Side of the Lord or this I did evil in the side of the Lord. The main thing is what God is he worshiping?

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Is he doing idolatry, you know, or is he loving the Lord? That's really the ultimate test

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So we don't want to downplay the wickedness of idolatry and I know I preached a whole sermon about idolatry just a few days ago

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And we don't want to downplay the wickedness of false religion and false doctrine

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Ultimately, it will lead to other crimes that are easier to recognize for the average person like for example

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Look at the next verse

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It says in verse number six he made his son pass through the fire and

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Observed times and used enchantments and dealt with familiar spirits and wizards

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He wrought much wickedness in the side of the Lord to provoke him to anger and again

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We look at the list of wickedness. It says that he basically sent his children through the fire

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So he's murdering his children. Yes, but really he's doing it in service to a false God

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and then when we look at all the magic and

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Witchcraft and sorcery and enchantments. Isn't that also religion? Isn't that also false religion?

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It's just all of it is really in the same category and it ends up

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Yeah, causing him to end up murdering his own children making his sons to pass through the fire and

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Then it says in verse 7 he set up a graven image of the grove that he had made in the house

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Of which the Lord said to David and to Solomon his son in this house and in Jerusalem

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Which I have chosen out of all tribes of Israel

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Well, I put my name forever and on and on it goes and

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It's really just idolatry and then it you jumped down to verse 11

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It says because Manassee king of Judah had done these abominations and it done wickedly above all that the Amorites did

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Which were before him and has made Judah also to sin with his idols

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Therefore thus sayeth the Lord God of Israel

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I am bringing such evil upon Jerusalem and Judah that whosoever hearth of it both his ears shall tingle

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Looks to me like God brings severe judgment severe punishment on false religion false doctrine

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Idolatry false gods. These are big big things now ultimately

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Any sin if you think about it tends toward death because the other thing that's going to be brought up later

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Is that not only did Manassee worship false gods, but he also filled Jerusalem with innocent blood and

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The Bible doesn't necessarily go into detail about exactly

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How or in what way he filled Jerusalem with innocent blood or shed innocent blood

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But if you stop and think about it

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Ultimately sin when it is finished bring it forth death right when lust has conceived it bring it forth sin and

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Sin when it is finished bring forth death

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Just stop and think about all the sins if you have if you have false religion here

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It brought forth death because they did human sacrifices. They made their sons to pass through the fire

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But even if you put that aside if somebody is a member of a false religion

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Then that means that they're not saved

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You know because it's replacing the true God in their life

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So if they're a Buddhist that means they're not a Christian if they're a Hindu

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They're not a Christian if they're a Roman Catholic. They're not a saved Christian

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They're a pagan idolater and what that means is that they're not indwelled by the Holy Spirit

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And if you're not saved then that means you don't have the new man

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You don't have the Holy Spirit and the Bible says they that are in the flesh cannot please God

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The carnal mind is enmity against God and it cannot be brought into subjection of the laws of God

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So therefore people that are unsaved

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They don't even have the Holy Spirit and the new man

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Giving them the power to live that victorious Christian life and overcome sin and get the victory over sin in their life

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So in places where false religion abounds you're gonna have more

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Stealing you're gonna have more killing adultery all those things and stop and think about if we go down through those big commandments

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Okay

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Killing obviously that leads to bloodshed because that's what it is, but even just adultery

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You know adultery ends with people dying

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Because if you go out and commit adultery a lot of times people commit murder

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To avenge those things and the Bible says jealousy is the rage of a man

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And you can give him any gifts and it's not gonna calm him down

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You know people will murder over adultery

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You know and that's just a fact first of all the Bible puts the death penalty on adultery in the first place in Leviticus

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2010 but even if it's not a government sanctioned death penalty a lot of people will just just kill someone

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Because they're so upset about the adultery

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But not only that adultery leads to death because of the fact that children who are conceived through adultery are often going to be

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Aborted because the abortion is gonna be used to cover up the crime and to cover up the adultery that has taken place

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And then if we just think about fornication

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Unmarried people just going out and sleeping around well

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Then that's gonna lead to abortion as well because they're gonna end up saying hey, I'm not ready for this

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I'm not married. I don't you know

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I don't know what I'm gonna do and then they end up aborting that baby and that is murder that is shedding innocent blood

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What about thou shalt not steal, you know, is that gonna lead toward bloodshed?

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Well, how many times has a robbery gone wrong and people get killed?

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I mean it's very possible that if you decide that you're gonna become a thief and just start stealing and have a life of crime

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That eventually you're just gonna rob the wrong house

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You're gonna rob the wrong guy and a lot of people will just gun you down just for stealing

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Whether that's right or wrong. That's what some people are gonna do

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You're robbing them. They're gonna shoot you you break into somebody's house in the middle of the night

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You just expect to get shot if they're home because the Bible even sanctions that because if you're the homeowner

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And somebody's breaking into your house in the middle like you don't know why they're there

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You don't know how many people there are you don't know what their intentions are if somebody broken in my house in the middle

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of the night

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I'm gonna blow them away and ask questions later because you don't know and the Bible sanctions that if it happens at night

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That's appropriate in the daytime. It's another story. You're gonna try to find a peaceful solution

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But either way whether it's right or wrong

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Homeowners property owners car owners. You try to jack the wrong car. You try to break into the wrong house

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You know you're very likely to get shot or you might just get shot by the police

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Maybe the police will shoot you maybe that you reach into your pocket

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And they don't know what you're reaching for and they blow you away not only that the thieves themselves often end up committing violence

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Because they break into the house the store the bank and they end up killing someone

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Maybe by accident maybe on purpose

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But the bible talks about a proverb chapter one that criminals who steal it says that they take away the lives of the owners

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They're up so is everyone that is greedy of gain that take it away the life of the owners. They're up

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Okay, so thou shall not kill leads to death thou shall not commit adultery leads to death

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Thou shall not steal leads to death thou shall not bear false witness leads to death

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Because you know what there are guys who get falsely accused of rape or something and then they go kill themselves

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Or women who get falsely accused of something and they go kill themselves

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People get upset or they kill the people that are making the false accusations

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You know it could cause people also to be wrongfully convicted look at naboth

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Two false witnesses arose and bore false witness against naboth and he was wrongfully executed for a crime that he didn't commit

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And so bearing false witness can definitely lead to death in more ways than one

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Thou shalt not covet definitely leads to death because what does the bible say from whence come wars and fighting among you?

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Come they not hence even from your lusts

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That war in your members and by the way the word lust is used interchangeably in the bible with the word covetousness

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You know paul said i had not known lust but that the scripture had said thou shalt not covet

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And so from whence come wars and fighting among you come they not hence even of your lusts that war in your members

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You lust and desire to have you kill and and he says you fight in war

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You have not because you ask not where do wars come from where do fighting come from

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Why are we constantly going to war all over the world and and there's always war going on?

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You know it's really covetousness

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One nation wants the resources or the land or whatever that belongs to someone else and so they end up taking it away

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You know people are greedy and they want things that don't belong to them

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You know and you even just look at our nation's history and you know, england basically wants to take taxes and things

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They just want to drain wealth and money and resources from the american colonies

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And finally the american colonies are saying no we want to keep our own money our own resources and everything

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We don't want to be drained by this mothership over, you know

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Another ocean away. We'd rather just you know prosper on our own here and not send you a bunch of money for nothing

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And so you know england's getting greedy

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They have all these colonies

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They want to suck up all the wealth and resources and everything and eventually it leads to a bloody conflict between

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The american colonists and england. We could just go to all the wars

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Where do wars and fighting come from from whence come wars and fighting is among you

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They come from the lust of the human being right the lust that war and our members

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And so thou shalt not covet pretty much leads to every war that's ever been fought

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And you say well, I thought that was the jews that were responsible for all the wars

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Well, here's the thing the jews are some greedy bastards, aren't they you know, and they're all into the love of money

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So even if you want to look at it that way and just say oh, you know

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You just have that button and everything's the jews that you want to blame for everything

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Even then it still goes back to covetousness and the love of money

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Because the love of money is the root of all evil

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But at the end of the day even wars that have nothing to do with the jews or anything like that

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You know, somebody is coveting something

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Somebody is being greedy about something follow the money

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The military industrial complex is another way that you could approach it and look at it and see where people are

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Financially benefiting and profiteering from warfare. That's why it happens

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And so look, it doesn't matter which of the commandments of god you're breaking whether it's your fornicating

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democratic adultery

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gambling

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stealing

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Whatever go down the list of every immoral activity you can think of drugs

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I wanted does anyone die from drugs?

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People die because they overdose on drugs

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People die because of a drug deal gone bad

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People die because of the violence of the whole underworld of the black market of getting and selling drugs

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I mean, look all of the sins you can name whether it's stealing covetousness

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Fornication you say hey, I'm not hurting anybody. Look when lust has conceived it bring it forth sin

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And sin when it is finished bring it forth death

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False religion is indirectly going to also bring death

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Because of the fact that it's going to bring a sinful population

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See bible believing christianity is teaching people to follow the laws of god

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Which is going to be to avoid all the bloodshed and death that comes with breaking god's laws and also getting someone saved

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What are we doing when we get someone saved? We're getting that person transformed into a new creature in christ

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And we're getting the holy spirit to move into that art

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So are they going to be a better person or a worse person as a result of the transforming power of salvation?

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And the holy ghost moving in think about it

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The best thing we could do for our society is get as many people saved as we can

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And then to teach them to observe all things whatsoever christ commanded us

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Because sin brings death that is what the bible says

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Lust conceives and brings forth sin and then sin when it is finished

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Bring it forth death

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And we could just go on and on any example you want bring up all the sins you want and see how these things

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Feed into each other until death is the result

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So this is what manasseh is guilty of he's considered one of the worst kings of all time

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Super evil and you know when we think of somebody who's worshiping satan

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And doing witchcraft and sorcery

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And uh, you know aborting their children and stuff, you know, we would consider that a pretty bad person, right?

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But here's the thing is that we don't have to turn there for sake of time

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But in first chronicles chapter number 33

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There's a parallel passage of this

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And in that parallel passage it actually talks about the fact that manasseh eventually later in life

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He actually does get saved

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And get right with god and try to undo the damage that he did not that's not recorded here

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In second kings, but it is recorded in the account over in second chronicles chapter 33

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And it talks about how god punishes him for all this wickedness

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But remember he reigned for 55 years. Okay, so he does all this damage

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But then toward the end he ends up being abducted by the king of assyria

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And put in babelon and he's there and while he's imprisoned in babelon

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He decides, you know what?

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This is happening to me because i'm a wicked person and because i'm not following the lord

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I'm worshiping false gods

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So he actually cries out to the lord praise the lord and the lord delivers him

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And then it says at that point then he knows, okay, the lord's the true god

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So then he comes home and actually straightens things out, you know gets rid of altars and things

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But it's it's it's like it's already kind of just too late

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Like apparently it didn't make that big of an impact since second kings doesn't even feel the need

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To even tell us that part of the story and then his next son

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Or the next king who is his son is going to be so wicked anyway

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He he pretty much just continues all the same trash of manassi his father anyway

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And so it's good that manassi

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Got saved and got right in the end and i believe of course that he's going to be in heaven and we'll see him in heaven

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That's good for him personally, but he'd already kind of done so much damage at that point

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That it really ruined the nation

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But the reason i bring it up is to show you that god can save some really wicked people

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So we don't want to just assume that somebody's a reprobate just because they do something really bad

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Okay, because the bible does describe the fact that there are some people who are

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Reprobate and what does the word reprobate mean? It simply means rejected. Okay

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That's what it means on a basic level of just the english word reprobate means rejected

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Jeremiah says it this way reprobate silver shall men call them because the lord has rejected them

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Okay, and so in romans 1 it describes that downward spiral and it talks about people that

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They didn't even want to retain god and their knowledge. There's such haters of god

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They don't even want to think about god or even remember that he exists

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And even as they did not want to retain god and their knowledge

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God gave them over to a reprobate mind to do those things that are not convenient

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And it says three times in romans 1 god gave them up god gave them over

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God gave them up and so the idea is that there are people who god is done with these people

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They have ultimately rejected him and he ultimately rejects them

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And a lot of people when you preach about this they get uncomfortable with that doctrine and they're

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Kind of having this mentality that it's never too late for anyone and as long as anybody's breathing air they could still be saved

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However, if we stop and think about that it doesn't match what the bible teaches because we know for a fact

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That if anybody receives the mark of the beast in the end times that they can never be saved after that

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That they're totally done at that point

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We also know for a fact that the bible says that anybody who adds to or removes from god's word intentionally corrupting the bible

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What's that curse? It's like the last three four verses of the bible

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Revelation 22 verses 18 and 19 and what does it say, you know if you add to these things

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I'm going to add to you all the plagues of the book of revelation

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And if you take away from these things i'm going to take away your part out of the book of life

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And out of the holy city and from the things that are written in this book

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Meaning that you will lose your opportunity to ever get saved

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Obviously, it's not talking about losing your salvation

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No one can ever lose their salvation for any reason ever you have eternal life your sealed into the day of redemption

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But what it's talking about is your part

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He'll take away your part out of the book of life and out of the holy city the place where your name even could go is gone

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You know your part is gone

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You're done your toast if you delete from god's word

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You are eternally damned. It doesn't matter if you live another 10 15 20 30 years on this earth

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It's too late for you or how about this? What about people who blaspheme the holy ghost?

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You know jesus said to the people that blaspheme the holy ghost he said that all manner of sins

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And and blasphemies will be forgiven unto men

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He said look people are going to be forgiven for all kinds of sins and blasphemies

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But the blasphemy against the holy ghost

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He said

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No one will be forgiven for the blasphemy against the holy ghost neither in this world neither in the world to come

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I mean that seems like a pretty clear statement that once you blaspheme the holy ghost you could never be saved

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And again, we're not talking about saved people losing their salvation because here's the thing

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No saved person will ever blaspheme the holy ghost

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No saved person has ever or will ever blaspheme the holy ghost

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Get the context of the story 100 of the people that jesus we're talking about were people who never believed in him

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it's talking about Pharisees and scribes and people that were

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Antithetical toward him and john the baptist and just they were just totally against the word of god from the beginning

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There is no such thing as losing your salvation

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Because a lot of people will be like well if you blaspheme the holy ghost you lose your salvation

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No, because here's the no saved person is ever going to blaspheme the holy ghost

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No man speaking by the spirit of god called jesus christ accursed the bible says okay

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And so the point is that these unsaved people

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Can cross a line with god to where they lose the opportunity to ever get saved so

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And if you would go to john chapter 12 so that we can see this john chapter number 12

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Because i want you to see that this is spelled out in the bible, okay

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But i'm not even going to turn to the blasphemy against the holy ghost passages because i think you guys are all pretty familiar with that

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You know, it's pretty famous stuff

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When jesus says if you blaspheme the holy ghost you will never be forgiven not in this world and not in the world to come

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I don't see how you can get any clearer

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That there is such thing as a reprobate

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Then that verse i mean how can you read that verse and say oh no such thing as a reprobate anybody can be saved

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It's like come on

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If you blaspheme the holy ghost, you're done

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If you add to or remove from god's word, you're done in the end times if you receive the mark of the beast

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You're done

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This is what the bible clearly spells out

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Now

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People will say this they'll say well are you saying that if that person believes in jesus they won't be saved

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Absolutely not because everyone who believes in jesus will be saved

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So what does it mean when we say these people will never be saved? They can never be saved

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They have no hope of salvation. Here's what it looks like look down in your bible at john chapter 12

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verse

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37 it says but though he had done so many miracles before them

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John 12 37 yet, they believed him not

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They believe not on him that the saying of his eye as the prophet might be fulfilled which he spake

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Lord who had believed our report and to whom at the arm of the lord been revealed watch this

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Therefore they could

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Not believe now. This is what it looks like people are incapable of believing on christ

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That's why they can't be saved. It's not that if they believed he wouldn't save them. Look

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Whosoever shall call upon the name of the lord shall be saved

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It's the problem is that they don't believe in him

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They can't believe in him

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And therefore they can't call on him because how so they call on him and they've not believed

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Look what the bible says it says therefore they could not believe

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Now why couldn't they believe the bible is going to explain why they couldn't believe

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It says in verse 40 because that his eyes said again, he has blinded their eyes. Who's the he there?

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God so why couldn't they believe they couldn't believe because god blinded their eyes. Everybody see that

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It says they could not believe

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because

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He had blinded their eyes

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And hardened their heart that they should not see with their eyes

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Nor understand with their heart and be converted and i should heal them

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So the bible is crystal clear here that these people

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They they didn't believe in him. They saw the great works that he did. They still didn't believe in him and ultimately

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God

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Blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts so that they could not believe they were unable to believe

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That's why they can never be saved because they can't believe

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I mean think about it if you hate god so much that you don't even want to retain god in your knowledge

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Does it sound like you're ever going to be saved?

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If if if it then turns around and says well even as they didn't want to retain god in their knowledge

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God gave them over to reprobate god hardened their hearts and blinded their eyes. I mean these people are done

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Okay, that is what we call the reprobate doctrine that there are people for whom it is too late

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also

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This explains some of the phenomena that we see in our world where we see people doing sick

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gross

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Weird horrific things and you're thinking yourself like how could any human being do these things or why would any person do these things?

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Because they're not normal temptations that we all did we all deal with temptations to steal to lie to cheat

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To fornicate to commit adultery those that you know as you're going through life

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You're tempted by those things, but then it's like these weird gross horrible wicked things

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Whether it's you know, homo stuff or just other just perverted stuff and it's like how did they get this way?

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Well, the the bible explains that they are given over to vile affections

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And that the reprobate is given over to the lusts of their own heart

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Given over to vile affections and that they are just darkened and hardened and just given over

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And then it makes sense and then you understand that so we understand that there are reprobates out there

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And when we see men burning and lust toward other men

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Women burning and lust for other women as it says in romans one that is a symptom

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Of the reprobate because normal people don't feel that way and there's no temptation taking you but such as is common to man

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That's not common to man

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That is a symptom or an evidence of the reprobate mind

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Okay, and so when we see that we could look at that person and say

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Yeah, this guy's a reprobate because he's over here burning and lust toward other dudes

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Okay, but here's the thing that doesn't mean that we just look at a super sinful person

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And assume that they're a reprobate

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Does everybody see the difference?

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Because here's the thing if i'm looking at someone like a jeffrey daumer or something right and you got these these horrible

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gross evil serial killer like you know homo

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Whatever rapist pedophile these weirdos, you know you look at that stuff and when you see those unnatural affections

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You know that's evidence like this guy's been given over to the reprobate mind

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This guy's given over to vile affections. This guy's given over to that which is not convenient

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This guy has been given over to the lust of his own heart to do these things that are not normal or natural

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Not the normal sins that we all deal with

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Okay

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But here's the thing we don't want to just look at somebody who's super sinful with conventional sins

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And think oh this guy can never be saved

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Because here's the thing manassee

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Is a super wicked guy just totally worshiping satan and just demonic witchcraft

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murder everything

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But

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He's not a sodomite

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He's not a reprobate and he ends up getting saved

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So, you know, I've seen some pretty rough people get saved

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You know, I remember one time when I was younger

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I heard a preacher kind of challenging us in a sermon and he was challenging us about getting the hard cases saved

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You know and and and how like, you know, we got to get the hard cases saved and and not to think that god doesn't have the power

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To save the really hard cases and he talked about just targeting these hard cases with prayer and just praying and fasting

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And then preaching the gospel to those people and getting them saved

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And everything so I was kind of inspired by this. So I decided I was going to try it

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And so I picked a person in my life who I thought was one of the least likely people to get saved

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Right, so I picked a guy that I felt like this guy's super wicked

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Super sinful and I would love to see this guy get saved

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You know because he was someone that was in my sphere

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And so I was like, you know what I want to experiment and try out what this preacher is saying and you know

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See if see if it'll work

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Put it to the test and so I picked a guy that was just kind of just a raunchy

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Guy just a lot of just just total trash coming out of his mouth all the time

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Wicked sinful guy unsavory guy

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And you know because I just thought this guy's never going to get saved

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So this is the perfect test right

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But he wasn't obviously wasn't like a reprobate or anything, you know

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So I started praying for this guy and I mean I was I was spending like hours

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In prayer and I even asked the pastor I asked this guy

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I said, you know, how do you pray for someone for hours because I'm you know, I don't want to chant

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I don't want to use vain repetitions

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And so he kind of gave me a little practical help

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And he said here's what I'll do and he gave me like lists of stuff to pray like, you know pray for god to like

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Take everything out of the way that's preventing this person from getting saved because ultimately god can't make people get saved

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Because it's their own choice to get saved. It's their own free will

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So how do you pray for someone to get saved, you know, so he had a big list though

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This guy had thought things through, you know, and he had this big long list

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His name was uh, he's not I don't think he's around anymore. He's a very old man now

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I don't think he's still pastor. His name was pastor greg bowser. This was in california

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And um, I think he's retired now

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But he had this big list of all these different things just just praying that god would just wake him up in the middle of the night

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And then they would just have these verses stuck in their head

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And just whatever bible verses you give them that they'll just won't be able to get out of their head

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Won't be able to forget it just bring just just praying for their circumstances

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To to be such that they would be receptive

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And that you know praying that you'll get good opportunities to preach to them that they'll listen

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That distractions will be removed whatever it is that's

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Preventing them from being saved that god would take it out of the way

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Whatever's confusing them that god would help clear it up for them and that bring people into their life myself included that

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You know, so he had a big long list. He had he had sat down and thought about this

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All the different ways that you could spend an hour

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Praying for someone to get saved without just chanting like some kind of a pagan

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Catholic orthodox whatever

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You know just rocking back and forth artistically chanting or something, you know

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But actually really pray from your heart to god. And so, you know, I I just said, okay

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I'm going to do this. So, you know, I was just going down the list. I was making my own list

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I was using his list and I'm just praying all this stuff

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And I prayed and I fasted and I worked on this and then I went and preached the gospel to this guy

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So I went and and knocked on his door

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You know on a certain night and just

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Didn't really take no for an answer because I you know, I've put a lot of prayer into this

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Bro's gonna listen, you know

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And so I didn't really take no for an answer

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I preached the gospel to him and while I was preaching the gospel to him

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He was kind of

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Laughing about it and not really taking it seriously kind of blowing me off and I kind of felt like I was wasting my time

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And I even wondered if he was a little under the influence of alcohol, you know while I was preaching to him

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But it was just it just seemed like it was just bouncing right off him like he's just not getting it

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And so I just it was just like okay, whatever, but I'm you know, I'm still doing it

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So I preached to him. I felt like it went nowhere

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But then like a day or two later. I'm still praying

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Haven't lost faith in the program and then

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You know, I hear

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From his wife that basically he had told her a bunch of the stuff that I had said to him on the doorstep

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And that he's quoting it to her and that he remember so I was like wow

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I thought nothing was getting through

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But then days later he's still talking about it and he's bringing up specific things that I said

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So I was like, well, that was one of the things that I was praying for, you know

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That this stuff would just be stuck in his head

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You know, and so then I ended up I don't know a few days after that or however long after that

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You know, I ended up going to his house again

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And preaching the gospel to him a second time and the second time it was like a totally different situation

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You know, it's like we sat down. I preached in the gospel. He was super interested

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He's asking questions. He's engaged in the conversation

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And he ultimately, you know, right then and there on the second attempt got saved

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So I was kind of blown away that it actually worked, you know, because this was a hard case

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You know, he even ended up coming to church like the next weekend and getting baptized

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You know and and fast forward this and by the way, this happened, you know, a few decades ago

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And this guy is still in church

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You know and so and a lot of his family members ended up getting saved

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as a chain reaction from that

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Because you know, you get one person saved and then it's like, you know

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Brothers getting saved moms getting saved other people in their life getting saved

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You know, so the reason I bring that up is that we don't want to just look at someone who's a super wicked person

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And assume that they're a reprobate and just think like, oh, this guy will never get saved

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Because some of those hard cases can be saved

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Also, when I would go back and visit

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Uh faith baptist church in canoga park, which is where my grandpa used to go to church many many moons ago

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And everybody who knew my grandpa from that generation. This is what they all said

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They said, oh man your grandpa was such a great soul winner and he was really good at winning the hard cases

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You know women with unsaved husbands

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The hard cases and it seemed like they were never going to get saved

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Your grandpa got those guys saved he'd go over there and preach to them and get them saved

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You know what getting the hard cases saved with god all things are possible

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And so yeah manassi can get saved

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The hard cases can get saved people who are into satanism and witchcraft people have committed murder can be saved

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So don't just give up on it and don't just assume

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Oh, this guy's really wicked must be a reprobate, you know

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Because there's a big difference between being some kind of a weird sick evil pervert

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Who's showing all this evidence that they're a reprobate based on romans one

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Versus just a guy who's super sinful

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But it's nothing unconventional. It's not you know, it's just these bros just violating the tank commandments

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All day long all of them, you know

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So I hope that that

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Makes a distinction for you so that you don't start getting the wrong idea that just bad people can't be saved because you know what

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Bad people can be saved. I mean if you think about it prostitutes are some pretty rough people

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They're committing a lot of sin. It's just a continual

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process of fornication

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adultery

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alcohol

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Drugs, I mean they're living a very extremely sinful life. Yet. We see Jesus Christ getting the prostitute saved

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The publicans and the sinners

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The harlots we're getting saved the tax collectors

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The prostitutes the just the dregs of society

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And jesus and the apostle are getting them saved and then we have an example of menassee getting saved and so

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Being high on sin and maxed out on sin does not make one

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Ineligible for the gospel and when you're out soulening and preaching the gospel

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So sometimes you'll run into people that just say I could never be saved because I've just done too many bad things

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I've just committed too many horrific sins and we're always telling those people

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It doesn't matter what you've done

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Because whosoever shall call upon the name of the lord shall be saved

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There is not anyone who would believe on jesus and ask him to be their savior where he's going to tell them no

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Jesus said him that coming to me. I will in no wise cast out

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Jesus will never reject

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Even the foulest vilest most wicked person who believes on him and comes to him now

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Obviously, we know. Yeah, there's a reprobate doctrine

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We do know there's some people that they can't believe in him

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They can't come to him

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They can't call upon him because they can't even believe in him because they're darken and hardened and they're done

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And they're toast but anybody who can believe can be saved

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And also I'll run into people sometimes who are worried that they are a reprobate, you know

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You ever run into these people and they're like, I'm scared that I'm a reprobate

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But I always just ask those people. Well, do you hate god?

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No, well, then you're not a reprobate. I mean, it's it's a really simple reprobate test

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If you want to just check yourself and make sure you're not a reprobate

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Do you hate the lord?

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Do you not want to retain god in your knowledge?

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But they'll think to themselves. Oh, you know, I said something really blasphemous and I'm scared

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I'm out of accidentally blasphemed the holy ghost or whatever in there

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They're nervous and worried that somehow they accidentally committed the unpardonable sin

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But here's the thing the fact that you love Jesus christ proves that you're not a reprobate because reprobates don't love god

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They might pretend to but you know yourself

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So yeah, could a reprobate pretend to be

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You know loving christ or believing in christ or you know wanting to hear the word of god

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Yeah, of course they can pretend and they do pretend because they want to infiltrate churches

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The Judas Iscariots want to infiltrate churches for a variety of reasons and infiltrate every aspect of society

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But you know yourself, don't you? I mean you can look in your own heart and know

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Do I hate the lord and not want to retain god in my knowledge?

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And the answer is that if you love the lord, you can't be a reprobate. It's impossible because reprobates don't love god

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It's that simple, you know, and so you don't want to have that irrational fear

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You just want to believe on christ and if you believe in christ and call upon him

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He's going to save you the fact that you're believing and calling proves that you're not a reprobate

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That's the proof that you're not a reprobate because the reprobate is unable to believe

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They could pretend but they can't actually believe in their heart. So let's wrap up here in

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Second Kings chapter 21 if you do want to read up on manassi's conversion. It's over in second chronicles chapter 33

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But the bible says in verse number 16 moreover manassi shed innocent blood very much

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Till he had filled Jerusalem from one end to another

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Beside his sin

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Wherewith he may do to the sin and doing that which was evil on the side of the lord

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So the big doing evil on the side of the lord was false religion all of it. That's what it listed

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It all had to do with idols

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groves

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statues images

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Alters witchcraft everything was false religion

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But then in addition to that on top of that it says he shed innocent blood

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The details aren't given. Is that abortion? Is that infanticide? Is that just violence?

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Who knows but as I illustrated earlier in the sermon all sin

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ultimately leads to death

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And the more de-christianized and godless we become in america. We should expect crime to increase

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We should expect violence to increase as a result

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And so it says in verse number 17 now the rest of the acts of manassa

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And all that he did and his sin that he sinned are they not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of juda

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And of course, it's interesting that this author of scripture does not bring up his conversion at all

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okay, so that right there is kind of interesting in and of itself because

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I find it hard to believe that this author is unaware of his conversion

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Now obviously we know all scripture is given by inspiration of god and that god is ultimately the author of the bible

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But he did use human beings to write the bible

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And so there's you know, holy men of god that spake as they were moved by the holy ghost

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And so there's a human element to the bible and a divine element

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So the the personalities of the authors come through

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Like if we're reading paul's epistle versus peters epistle, we can tell the difference because they have different personality

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james has a different personality than john

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Okay

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And so there's a human authorship and then there's also the divine authorship

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The important thing to know is that every word of god is pure and that everything in the bible is correct

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There's nothing wrong in the bible. Everything is true. Everything is right and it's

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Divine and human just like jesus is a hundred percent god a hundred percent man

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So is the bible a hundred percent the work of human authorship and a hundred percent divinely authored

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Is the same way, you know, because holy men of god spake as they were moved by the holy ghost

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I do not believe personally and some people believe this and i'm not saying that they're bad or that it's heretical

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But there are people who believe what's called divine like a divine dictation

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type of a thing or mechanical dictation where they'll believe that

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You know god mechanically dictated the entire bible versus what we believe is more like organic inspiration

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Where it's a basically a combination of the human author

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Through the divine power the holy spirit and so forth that comes together to give us the perfect word of god

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Which is which is obviously amazing that god could use

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At least 40 different authors probably more than that, but a minimum of 40 authors to write the bible

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Over the course of 1600 years

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40 different people wrote the bible and it still all works together as one whole it's amazing

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And mechanically dictating it wouldn't be as amazing as actually working through the lives and hearts of those men

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That they would write it actually from their own heart in many cases

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As they're moved by the holy ghost. It's it's truly remarkable

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And so that's kind of a subject in and of itself

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But the point is with all that being said is that it seems that the author here

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Whether you're thinking of the human author or the divine author god

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The author here has made a decision to not include manasas conversion, right?

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Because any way you slice it no matter what you believe about the finer points of the inspiration of the bible

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The author has chosen to leave that out

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And I think that there's something that we could learn from that because it goes to show you that if you just spend decades of your life

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Being wicked and stupid you might do so much damage

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That the little good that you do just doesn't even

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Come up in the story, you know, right?

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And so it's kind of a cautionary tale that you know some people in the bible

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They did a mix of good and bad and the bad outweighs the good so much. They're just only known for the bad

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And I think sol is a character like that because even though sol did some great things for god

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When we think of sol we virtually never think about the great things that he did for god

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We're virtually always thinking of him as the villain who is chasing after david

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And when we think of david

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Even though david did some really bad stuff because david committed adultery with basheba and murdered uriah

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The first thing that comes to mind when we think of david is not oh, he's this murderous adulterer

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The first thing that we think of is david and goliath

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You know and we're thinking of him as the king of israel who reigned for 40 years

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In the heyday of israel's glory

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We think of him as that guy who you know is prefiguring jesus christ. We think about as the author of the book of sol's

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You know and we think of all these good things and so therefore how many people here tonight are named david

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Any davids out there tonight? Yeah, so we got a few davids, but but here's the thing david's a super popular name

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sol not so much

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You know when we think of sol we think of like maybe some skeevy payday loan kind of a guy or something, you know

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But the point is that or slow mo is what we would call him actually because that's that's actually how you say

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Or no, no, that's solomon. Sorry slow mo is solomon. That's also a popular name

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So I think they do call people sol right the jews do have people named sol. You know. Yeah, they do

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anyway, the point is

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sol goes down in history as a bad guy

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manassi

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Goes down in history as a bad guy

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david goes down in history as a good guy the point is that you know

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You can do such terrible rotten things that it's hard to ever live it down

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And so yeah, god's the god of a second chance and god did hear manassi's prayer

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And god did deliver him from the prison cell and god did allow him to come back to jerusalem

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And he did a bunch of great works for god once he got back and he actually was able to build things in the city

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Take down altars to false gods and do good things

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But at the end of the day

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It was kind of a drop of water on a hot stove compared to all the bad stuff that he did

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So that the author of second kings is just like man

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I'm this is the reader's digest condensed version anyway, so i'm not bringing it up because obviously this is extremely condensed

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You know because we're we're getting like

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55 years in less than a chapter

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So it's very condensed and the author just decided

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You know, i'm not even gonna bring that up

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I don't think it's really that important to the story because his son

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Just continued all the idolatrous trash after him aamon the next king because we see that at the end of the chapter

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It says in verse number 19 aamon was 22 years old when he began to reign

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He ran two years in jerusalem look at verse 20

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He did that which was evil in the side of the lord as his father manassi did

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He walked in all the ways that his father walked in

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And served the idols that his father served notice the continual bringing up of dad

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Right. He did the sins that dad did he worshiped the exact idols that dad did so he's blaming the author is blaming

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Manassi for what aamon did because he's the one who brought in all this idolatry for so many decades

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And then his son aamon just continues it

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And after two years the bible says that aamons

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People conspired against him it says in verse 23 the servants of aamon conspired against him and slew the king in his own house

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And the people of the land slew all them that had conspired against king aamon and the people of the land made

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Josiah his son king and his dead so

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Thankfully after manassi's 55 year wicked reign and then two years of aamon's wickedness

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Now we're going to get to josiah who's kind of another hezekiah

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Another great character that's going to do great things and bring revival

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And so again we can see how you could have a super wicked dad

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And a super wicked grandfather

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And you could still be a josiah and you could still be a great man of god and do something great for god

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And then we also see that manassi

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Even though he was super wicked. He's a hard case could still get saved. And so therefore we should sometimes

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You know have the faith to say okay, i'm going to try to get that hard case saved

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And and by the way when you're out soul winning

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You know you should try to give the gospel to whomever you can

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Because i mean i i can't count how many times i've looked at somebody and thought like oh man this guy's not going to get saved

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Because he just looked like some mean

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Maybe just kind of like a mean biker guy or something. He just looks like a really rough scary person

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Or some kind of a gang banger or something and then you walk up to him and then they get saved

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And then other people you're like oh, this is going to be the most receptive person ever and they're not

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You can't predict

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You never know and sometimes people will shock you

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And by the way even when it comes to people that you think are a homo

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Sometimes people are just effeminate and they're not even a homo

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You know and sometimes people will just have like a rainbow sticker

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On their thermos or whatever and they're just like an ally or whatever. They're they're not even a homo

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So again like i've said this before if i'm 99 sure someone's a sodomite

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I'll just give them the gospel for the one percent chance that they're not

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You know just because like you don't always want to judge a book by its cover because i've walked up to a house before

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With like car in the driveway

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sodomite sticker on the car

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Knocked the door the woman that came to the door looked like a a lesbian on first glance

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But then you talked to her she's not a lesbian and she ends up getting saved

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So you don't want to just assume

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And jump to conclusions about people. Yes, the reprobates are out there

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Yes, some people just will flat out make it clear to you that they're a reprobate

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And yeah, you don't want to cast your pearls before swine, but you know you want to at least

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Give the benefit of the doubt when you can and realize that there are some really bad people who could still get saved

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And that god's grace is sufficient for whatever sense and what did it say?

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All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men other than the blasphemy of the holy ghost any sin could potentially be forgiving

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If they believe and call

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And so we should get the people saved and not just only think that only the nice people are going to get saved

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Well, some really bad people can get saved too

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And even in the parable where he's sitting about to invite people to the wedding feast

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He says go call the good and the bad

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Right preach the gospel to the good people and preach the gospel to the bad people

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Get every you know preach to everybody you can let's bards in our word of prayer

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Father, we thank you for your word lord

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We thank you for the story of manassee and what we can learn from it lord

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Bless us now as we go our separate ways and in Jesus name we pray amen

