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What's your name?

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Amen.

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The title of my sermon this evening is The Pre-Tribulation Rapture Debunked and I've been going through

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a doctrinal series for our church and we're kind of at the last few things that we have

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in a list of heresies or false doctrines and we're kind of like on the second to

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last we've got one more modalism after this, all right?

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But Pre-Tribulation Rapture being a false doctrine is not our doctrinal statement

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and I was going to spend time this evening just simply going through a particular argument

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for the Pre-Tribulation Rapture that I've heard.

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So there's someone that I grew up under, his name is Jimmy Evans, he was the pastor of a

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church called Trinity Fellowship Church.

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It's a church I grew up in my whole life and growing up as a young adult and he taught

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the Pre-Tribulation Rapture consistently, I mean I would argue once or twice a month

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like almost on a regular basis, this is a common thing that I heard growing up and I'll

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be honest with you, I did believe in that and I thought that that was what the Bible

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did teach for most of my youth, most of being raised and then I ended up trying to prove

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the Pre-Tribulation Rapture and I am changing my position, so you know, but I want to

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go through some of the arguments that he makes and just see what the Bible says

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on this particular issue because unfortunately in this video he claims that you can prove

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the Pre-Tribulation Rapture with the Bible alone, which is the right idea, you should

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be able to preach doctrines only from the Bible, but the problem is it doesn't exist

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in the Bible of course.

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Now this is his number one point, this is his point one of proving the Pre-Tribulation

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Rapture from the Bible explicitly as he says let's go to Revelation 6 verse 12,

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and I'd be held when he'd open the sixth seal and lo there was a great earthquake.

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So this is his proof text that there's a Pre-Tribulation Rapture and this is the statement

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he makes before reading this verse, he says, this is the beginning of the tribulation.

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I looked when he opened the sixth seal, you know that there's five numbers for six?

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Like this is crazy, like I was kind of just flabbergasted that I'm sitting here

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thinking like this guy says this is the beginning of the tribulation,

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tribulation equals wrath, here's the proof sixth seal.

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What about the first seal?

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What about the second seal?

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What about the third seal?

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What about all the other preceding seals?

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Why are we just starting in the middle of the book of Revelation?

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Why are we starting in verse number 12?

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And again his main point is this, that tribulation is the wrath of God.

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Now he reads this whole passage but let's just read it for ourselves as well.

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It says, and I'd be held when he'd open the sixth seal and lo there was a great

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earthquake and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair and the moon became as

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blood and the stars of heaven fell under the earth even as a fig tree cast of

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their untimely figs when she was shaken of a mighty wind and the heaven departed

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as a scroll when it is rolled together and every mountain island were moved

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out of their places and the kings of the earth and the great men and the

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rich men and the chief captains and the mighty men and every bond man and

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every free man hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the

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mountains and said to the mountains and rocks fall on us and hide us from

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the face of him that sitteth on the throne and from the wrath of the lamb for

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the great day of his wrath is come and who shall be able to stand.

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So of course the Bible does explain there is going to be a period of time

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where the wrath of God is poured out on the earth and I would agree that

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this is the timeline when the wrath of God begins.

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The problem is is that it's the sixth seal and it didn't say this is

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when the tribulation begins it just says this is the wrath and this is what

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you'll notice from a pre-tribulation preacher or pastor is they'll confuse

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terms they'll just say things like tribulation and then point to wrath or

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point to wrath and call it tribulation or they'll use the tribulation to

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mean the whole seven year period of time and then they conflate that

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again with wrath and they really they depend on the audience being ignorant

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of what the Bible teaches. They're hoping the congregation hasn't read the Bible at

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all or is unfamiliar with these chapters hasn't thought about it at all and so

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they're just cherry picking a verse here and there and just kind of jumping

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around and it's confusing. You know let's let's spend some time and think

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about why this is not true that the tribulation is the wrath of God. Well

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I would say number one is we didn't even talk about the first five

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seals. Let's let's read a little bit preceding these verses look at verse

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number nine and when he'd opened the fifth seal I saw under the altar the souls

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of them that were slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they

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held and they cried to the loud voice saying how long a Lord holy and true

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does thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell in the earth

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and white robes were given to every one of them and it was said in them

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that they should rest yet for a little season until their fellow servants

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also in their brethren that should be killed as they were should be fulfilled.

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So in chapter six it gives us all six seals up to this point but it doesn't

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necessarily give us a timeline in this specific chapter okay doesn't say

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exactly how long seal one is it doesn't say how long seal two is it

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doesn't say how long seal three is. If I were to try and be gracious

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under this position you would almost have to believe that all six seals are

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opened simultaneously to then come up with this derived meaning or derived idea

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that the tribulation is wrath. But here's the problem the fifth seal

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explicitly is telling you there's a timeline difference between it and the

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sixth one. It's saying hey how long are you are you gonna wait and he's

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like hey you still have to wait at least a little season. So we have to

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realize that the fifth seal and the sixth seal cannot be the exact same

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timeline. So if the sixth seal is the beginning of the wrath of God then what

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was the fifth seal? And of course we understand it because we actually

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understand the Bible that that's the great tribulation. So what the Bible

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really teaches is the first four seals tribulation. The fifth seal great

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tribulation. The sixth seal the wrath of God. And look Jimmy Evans is not

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ignorant of this because he said in the same video there's some people who

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believe that we're going to be raptured right before the wrath kind of a

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little bit around the midpoint of the tribulation of the seven year

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period and he's like but you know that doesn't make any sense because

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tribulation is wrath. Okay well you know let's keep debunking that

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point go to Matthew chapter number 24 go to Matthew chapter number 24 and

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then he has some other points that we're going to dispel here in a

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minute. But mostly the argument for pre-trib is just well I just don't

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think God would cause us to live through tribulation or I don't think God

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would appoint us to tribulation. But see they can't say that because the

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Bible doesn't say that they say well God doesn't appoint us to wrath and

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that is a verse in the Bible. So then they have to conflate tribulation

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with wrath in your mind so then they can say well I don't think God

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would cause us to live in a dangerous world and all this bad stuff

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and people are dying and it's like well aren't people dying now? What about

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throughout history? Has there been times of tribulation in the history? You

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know and it really starts to fall apart. But here's another problem is the

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parallels in the Bible of this particular text so we just read in

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Revelation 6 how the sun's darkened and the moon's not given her light and

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there's just all these different descriptions well that's mentioned in

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the book of Matthew. Now let's you know let's just see when that happens

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according to Matthew 24 verse 29. Immediately after the tribulation of

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those days saw the sun be darkened and the moon should not give her light and

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the stars shall fall from heaven and the powers of the heavens shall be

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shaken. Okay maybe I should add you keep your finger here but I'll just

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read for you again from Matthew or I'm sorry from Revelation chapter

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6 verse number 12 which is where he was pointing us to. Sorry I'm going to

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print the page. He said or the Bible says and behold when he had opened the

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sixth seal and lo there was a great earthquake and the sun became black as

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saffcock of hair and the moon became as blood and the stars of heaven fell

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under the earth. Okay isn't that exactly what it says in verse 29? The

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sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not give her light and the

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stars shall fall from heaven and the powers of heaven shall be shaken. Now

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it says here and then shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven

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and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn and they shall see the

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Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. So

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they're mourning. Okay okay what did it say in Revelation chapter number

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six? It said in the kings of the earth and the great men and the rich

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men and the chief captains and the mighty men and every bottom and

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every free men hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the

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mountains and said to the mountains and rocks fall on us and hide us

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from the face of them that sit on the throne from the wrath of the

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lamb. Doesn't that kind of sound like the great men that we're seeing here?

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I mean what does it say here in verse 30? It says in the Son of Man of

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heaven and then shall the tribes of the earth mourn and they shall

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see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven with power

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and great glory. Isn't that exactly what we're seeing in Revelation

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chapter number six? And in verse 31 and he shall send his angels

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with a great sound of a trumpet and they shall gather together his

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elect from the four winds from one end of the heaven to the

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other. So this is what we would call the rapture. Now again the

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word rapture is not in the Bible. It's a derived term of just

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talking about something being caught up or seized up and

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again that's the actual language of 1st Thessalonians

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chapter number four is being caught up. So again this caught

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up is then where we derive the term quote rapture, something

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to be caught up, something to be seized up and again that's what

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we believe. We believe people that are saved and still alive

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physically at one point there's a point in human history where

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they'll be caught up together with Christ in the clouds and

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now does this happen? Do we all become Superman and we can

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fly? No. According to the biblical text the angels come

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and they gather us together. So then all the angels are

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coming and gathering. You know you could you could argue

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maybe it's just that God has to whittle down to where

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there's enough uh there's enough angels to get us up

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there or something. I don't know it's a joke okay but it's

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just like hey hey we're getting carried up there so it's

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just those that are alive and remain under the coming of

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the Lord. The angels are gonna come and the angels are

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gonna carry us up and we'll be together with the Lord.

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That's exactly what the Bible's saying and notice when

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is this according to Revelation uh Revelation

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chapter six the sixth seal. Yeah. Okay the sixth seal is

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the exact same timeline as this is being described.

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Now in verse thirty-two now learn a parable of the fig tree

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when his branch is yet tender and put it forth his leaves

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you know that summer is nigh. Revelation chapter number

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six is saying and the stars of heaven fell into the earth

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even as a fig tree cast that they're untimely figs when she

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is shaken of a mighty wind. I mean it's like what do you

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need the Bible to say here? Right. That's pretty tough. I mean it's just

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like point point point point point point point point

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just like the exact same text and verse thirty-three so

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likewise ye when ye shall see all these things know that it is

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near even at the doors. So again we have this description

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telling us explicitly that what that the wrath started in

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Revelation chapter six but what do we also have it tell us

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in Matthew twenty-four? It says in verse number twenty-nine

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immediately after the tribulation. So you know what the

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Bible doesn't do it doesn't conflate tribulation with

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wrath at all because it says leading up to this event

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was the tribulation after the tribulation is the wrath

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and the wrath started after the tribulation.

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So in fact Revelation six twelve clearly teaches that

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tribulation is not the wrath of God it's the exact opposite

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it's not the exact opposite but it's at least it's just the

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Bible is making a clear dividing line between

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tribulation and wrath. The reason why I would say it's

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opposite is because tribulation typically when the

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Bible is coming from the devil and from the wrath is

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coming from God. Now again the Bible uses the word

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tribulation in a broad sense sometimes the

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tribulation God is giving to people so tribulation just

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means trouble but in general the the the

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tribulation for the saints is coming from Satan the

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antichrist the wrath of God is coming from God himself

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okay so that's why they're kind of in a sense different

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things that we're talking about obviously they're both

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negative though so they do share in that parallel only

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but let's read some more in Matthew 24. Look at verse

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number eight the Bible says that all these are the

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beginning of sorrows. Verse nine then shall they

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deliver you up to be afflicted and shall kill you

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and you should be hated of all nations for my name's

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sake. You know this idea that the Christian life is

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one without pain without sorrow without tribulation

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is foreign to Scripture. It's only this like Joel

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Osteen blessed life version of Christianity that

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could somehow get away with this concept or idea

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that you become a Christian and it's all roses or

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something and of course that is a belief by some

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some people believe that your life is hard and

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everything's bad and everything's miserable and

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everybody has this God shaped hole in their heart

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and then when they get saved then everything good

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happens and their marriage turns into this

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beautiful thing and their family's perfect and

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they get a promotion at their work and now

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their 401k is flushed with cash and it's

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basically just the sunshine no rain every day

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until they're just gently taken into heaven

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and there's no tribulation there's no just

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just all good but you know that's not the

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bible and how are we going to be partakers of

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Christ's sufferings with that type of trajectory

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the bible teaches actually kind of a little bit

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different picture it paints a picture where

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people are going to not like it's like a country

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music song you know it's just like you know

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people are going to get mad at you it can cause

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marital spats it can cause division within a family

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you're going to have you're going to be hated of all

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all of all men you know you're going to be

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persecuted i mean what is the text saying the text is

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saying then shall they deliver you up to be

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afflicted and shall kill you that doesn't sound great

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that's not your quote best life now your best life is going to be

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a millennial reign with christ not on this life

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not the first the second okay and again it's it's like

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obviously going to cause a lot a lot of problems

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verse 10 and then shall many be offended and shall betray one another

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and shall hate one another you know because of christianity a lot of

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a lot of just conflict a lot of issue a lot of betrayal

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and and it's going to be really frustrating we're going to see family

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members that you would never assume turn on each other

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you're going to have family members turn on you you're going to see just

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crazy stuff happening you're going to see conflict

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between saved people that doesn't make sense

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um you know it's just kind of a sad reality but that is what the bible

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is teaching and of course it eventually culminates in what the bible

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calls great tribulation look at verse 21 for then shall

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be great tribulation such as was not since the

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beginning of the world to this time no nor ever shall be

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so this is according to the text the worst period of human history

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where there's great tribulation so you know leading up to this point

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it's just kind of a bloodbath of humanity is what the bible teaches

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then there's going to be a great tribulation where it's targeted to the

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saved and for this from a saved perspective the

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persecution against christians will be the worst at this point in human

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history and will never exceed such an event so this will be the worst

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event that's ever happened and you know of course there's all

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kinds of strange in times views it's not limited to

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pre-tribulation rapture there's there's preterism

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which which preterism would teach that all of these things have already happened

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everything everything in revelation everything in matthew has already happened

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and then and then it kind of like well when did that happen

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you know and of course they have to try and point to 70 ad

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as a partial fulfillment for most cases and then they say everything else

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was just a spiritual application it's like spiritual locusts coming from

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hell and and all these strange things but

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you know think about what it says in verse 34

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verily i say to you this generation shall not pass to all these things we've

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fulfilled what the preterist will do is he'll then say oh see

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that's why it had to happen in 70 ad because these people weren't going to die

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before it happens but i believe what the text is trying to say is it's

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saying that the generation that starts verse eight

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is the same generation that has to endure to the end

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okay so it's it's telling us this is not a

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um a historical thing it's not something that's just

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symbolic symbolistic of like a thousand year period of time

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because some people will teach oh no no this is just the book of revelation

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is just like the first thousand years after uh the 70 ad or something and

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it's just allegory no no no it's a literal event

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it's a real event for a specific generation for a specific timeline

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and it's going to happen now of course that's what we call ourselves

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pre millennial is that we don't believe that this stuff has happened and we

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don't believe that the thousand years of crisis happened

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people that call themselves post mill sounds cool

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unless you understand what they believe and again post mill means that they

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believe that the that uses crisis already ruled for a thousand years

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and so then so then you're like an even more hot water because you're like

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what how the heck did that happen and it's like when did that happen

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you know was that like the dark ages or like

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was that the mongolian empire was that the turkish

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you know empire taking over the Byzantine empire like when is this

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exact thousand years or whatever so then you get even

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weirder camps then you get a camp that's just like all

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history's fake it's like stay away from these people

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okay please have nothing to do with these people

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i don't want you in my church okay if you just think all of history is

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fake just leave okay i don't even want it

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these people are brain dead retards and i don't i don't want nothing to do with

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them it's usually a flat earth type mentality okay

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then then you kind of have like another group of the post mill

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that would say it was all an allegory and so then that then they kind of like

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say but i don't really know where we're at so there's kind of like i don't

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know and then you have another group that's just like oh i do know we're

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in satans little season okay who's heard of this

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the satans little season they'll say like oh well

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christ came for the first thousand years and then

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now in satans little season now satans little season will even go back to the

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group that i said don't come to my church

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because they'll say oh well there was this thousand years of peace and all the

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stuff but it wasn't recorded in history and then satan

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created this fake history that we all think really

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happened because he's trying to deceive us all and we're all now in

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satans little it's you're crazy okay these people are

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crazy and weird and i want nothing to do with them

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all right all the post mill stuff is just weird

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okay and we could spend time debunking it but i'm just kind of giving you the

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quick views in the in the time that we're

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also you know just talking about pre-tribulation

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okay the pre-tribulation rapture though is just the belief that

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before this seven-year period of these seven seals being

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unleashed that somehow jesus will rapture us

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but but here's the problem the rapture is described clearly

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here in verse 29 through 31 and it was after the tribulation and it's in the

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middle of these seals being opened so then how do you get to

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this pre-trib rapture that this isn't there

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there's only one rapture that we really have in scripture that's consistent

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with each other and it's always placed at the sixth seal

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here right where we have it in matthew 24 after the tribulation

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and of course if we spend the time in revelation seven and eight we see

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those people in heaven so it's just like it's really clear it's really consistent

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verse 21 talks about this great tribulation i i heard somebody that was post-trib

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say nowhere in the bible to say great tribulation and then i'm like well

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i think it was mat first or something he said something stupid about this

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and he's like some people call this period of time great tribulation but the bible

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didn't really say that and i'm like well it actually kind of does say exactly that

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right here okay it says there's a great tribulation period okay so

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be careful there's a lot of weird views out there and and i'm not saying that

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you have to agree with me a hundred percent on end times eschatology to come to our church or

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be part of our church but obviously if you're retarded you could leave okay and not because

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of a real thing all right a spiritual retardation okay go to revelation chapter 12 if you would

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revelation chapter number 12 life's too short i don't want to deal with that kind of nonsense

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you know a man that is an heretic after the first second i'm an issue reject you know and just

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reality denial is not fun it's not cool i'm not into it and those people just spend all their time

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watching youtube videos and you know i'm not a popular on youtube anyways all right so

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revelation chapter 12 look at verse number six the bible says and the woman fled in the

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wilderness where she had the place prepared of god they should feed her there a thousand

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two hundred and three square days so i want to spend a quick second explaining the bible

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gives us an actual timeline so we're not we're not just guessing at numbers here we believe in

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seven year period of time because there's what's called daniel's 70th week and week is understood

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in the book of daniels being a seven-year period so that's where we kind of get the idea but

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then the bible confirms it with other dates and times in revelation chapter 12 verse number six

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it clearly spells out this period of time of a thousand two hundred and three score days now this

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is not exactly three and a half years it's slightly less but it's a basically three and a half years

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okay so what is this time period that's being described well it talks about the woman the

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woman here is an allegory of course for mankind so this is what we know as again the first four

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seals the woman mankind is going to be tormented and persecuted of satan for this 1260 years but

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what does the bible say that god is going to you know basically in a special way protect them he's

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prepared a place for them they're going to feed in the wilderness somehow they're going to flee

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into the wilderness they're going to basically survive you know by natural resources or whatever

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that kind of makes sense now again i can't interpret this perfectly because i don't understand the

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future but it kind of makes sense that if we lived in a technocratic system a no-cash system

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and there's just world wars you know killing all of our supply chains and stuff that for a period

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of time maybe mankind has to live off the land a little bit in order to survive but according to

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the bible god will allow that to happen and god is preparing a place for mankind to survive

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the devil just wants mankind to die okay but man will not die through his efforts of full slaughter

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so the devil fails this is this is the whole point the devil wants to kill the woman and the

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devil fails he has a 1260 days to accomplish his goal he fails now the bible brings up another

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timeline here look at verse 13 and when the dragon saw that he had cast under the earth he

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persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child and to the woman were given two wings of

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a great eagle that she might fly into the wilderness into her place where she is nourished for a time

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and times and half a time from the face of the serpent so we have another just kind of loose

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allegory of a time times plural and half a time so this is where we think of most likely the

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bible is interpreting us three and a half years a time being a year so you have a time that's

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one times meaning two and a half a time three and a half years and they're being delivered from the

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face of the serpent so not seeing it head on okay not directly well it says that it says in verse

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15 in the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman that he might cause her

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to be carried away of the flood and the earth helped the woman and the earth opened her

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mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of her mouth and the dragon was roth with

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the woman and went to make war with the remnant of her seed which keep the commandments of god and

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have the testimony of jesus christ so i was using a lot of allegory here so i don't know that we could

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be dogmatic about anything but at the same time i don't feel like it's all allegory because you

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know and then again this is just my personal interpretation you can believe whatever you

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want all right i personally believe that when the bible says a flood here that it's literal

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some people would interpret this as being an actual army and i think that's possible i'm not going

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to say i'm dogmatic i'm just saying this is how i lean this is my personal leaning in the text

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and why i say it's not an allegory is because then if it is an allegory then you have to come

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up with an allegory for the earth because it says that the earth opened her mouth and swallowed

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them up so what is the earth and your allegory i'm just going to go back to me and say the

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earth is the earth again so i think that the flood the flood and i think the earth is the earth

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now why do i personally think this well i personally believe this because god makes a big

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deal in genesis chapter number six through eight that he's never going to flood the earth again

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and destroy all of mankind again with a flood and puts a rainbow in the sky as a promise for

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doing that and then of course the most satanic people in the world what do they love to do

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they love to rub that rainbow and god's nose and just try to like make a big deal out of

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mock god with their little rainbow and then of course you know what the devil loves to do what

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does the devil always try to do he always tries to prove god wrong like hey he's trying to kill

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jesus with herod you know he's trying to kill baby jesus because he wants to prove god wrong

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he's trying to get job to curse god and prove god wrong like he's always trying to actually

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beat god or something that god said he wants to prove wrong so what would the devil love to do

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i think the devil would love to do is just flood the entire world and kill everybody

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and then prove god wrong that he said he was never going to flood the earth again and look

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this is not a wild idea that i have you could go online right now and find all kinds of scientists

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and environmentalists and all these people worried that there could be a global flood you know

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they're talking about the polar caps melting and they're talking about sea levels rising and just

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all this different junk that's being alluded to and it wouldn't surprise me if the devil attempted

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to kill mankind with the flood again because here's the thing none of us are building an ark

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and none of us are ever going to build an ark because god's never going to tell you to

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build an ark if you think god told you to build an ark you can leave as well all right go start

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building okay and the reason why you don't need to build an ark is because god's never going to

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allow the earth to ever be flooded again and he could allow the earth to open her mouth

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and to swallow in that flood so even if the devil convinced his minions to nuke the

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polar ice caps or whatever and try to raise the sea levels well it wouldn't work okay

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i don't think that it's saying that it wouldn't happen it could happen and think about it wouldn't

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that make sense logically if the devil tried through world war three to kill all mankind

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fails so then what's the backup plan flood the entire world fails so then what's the third

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backup plan well i just kill christians then that's kind of what it is now some people say

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no i think the flood was that three and a half year period of time with the armies going out

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trying to kill them and it's all allegory well you can believe that and i'm not even saying you're

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wrong but then you'd have to explain to me what the earth was and why it was opening and you know i

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kind of like my view because it also helps explain why genesis six through eight is such a big deal

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and why god gives that token and why the enemies are always using that to rub it in god's face

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and what all this means this is not my personal opinions okay just trying to give you an idea

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but what we are getting is a timeline we're getting a 1260 days time times and half a time

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and then what happens then christians are targeted this is not saying hey you're raptured out of here

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and the devil can't get you and there's no problem and no one's gonna ever harm christians

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like it's saying the exact opposite is actually saying there's a lead up and then there's a

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targeting which fits perfectly with what matthew said matthew said hey here's the great

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tribulation period and of course that's what's being described chapter 13 is what the antichrist

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being revealed it said that the fate we're hidden from the face of the serpent but now we're not

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going to be hidden from the face of the serpent now it's going to be seen we're going to be facing

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off with the face of the serpent because the antichrist is going to come into power he's going to

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inhabit be inhabited by the devil and it's going to be full opposition of the antichrist

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full-on in chapter number 13 and it says that he's going to make war with the saints

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it says right here in verse 17 war with the remnant of receipt but it says in chapter number 13

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i believe it says he's going to make war with the saints uh let's let's read a few verses here

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says in verse seven and it was given unto him to make war with the saints and overcome them

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and power was given him over all kenchards and tongues and nations and all that dwell upon

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the earth shall worship him whose names were not written in the book of the life of the lamb slain

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from the foundation of the world if any man have an ear let him hear he that leadeth into

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captivity shall go into captivity he that killed the sword must be killed with the sword here's the

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patience and faith of the saints so again we're not going to read the whole book of revelation

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but what is the bible saying it's saying that this antichrist comes into power declares

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himself god and how long does he have to rule verse five and power was given unto him to continue

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40 and two months notice to continue what continue from what from what he was doing previously the

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first 1260 days he was trying to kill mankind fails i personally believe there's a flood attempt

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fails then we have the last 42 months where he's going to be successful only against christians

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but he won't be ultimately successful he's having initial success right the bible is saying he's making

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war with saints and he's he's going to overcome the meanings he's going to kill a lot of christians

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okay but because god is not willing that every christian should be slaughtered this way

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that's why we have the rapture that's why we have jesus christ coming back in the clouds

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and those that have endured under the end are going to be saved from physical death

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and they'll be caught up together with christ in the clouds but notice the timelines we have 1260

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days and we have 42 months these are approximately not exactly three and a half years now in the

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book of daniel we also have other numbers i'm going to go there just for a quick second go to

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daniel chapter 12 go to daniel chapter number 12 so they're like oh you guys think

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that there's a rapture in the middle yeah because it's giving us timelines of middle events

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it's giving us 1260 days something happens at that point it's giving us 42 months to continue

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something's happening in those periods of time now in the book of daniel chapter number 12 verse 12

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it also gives us a timeline of events now it's it's pretty explicit in the book of daniel

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um and this is kind of the end cap of a lot of things that he's brought up but look at verse 12

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bless it as he that waited then come into the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days

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so this is this is a little bit different timeline uh actually you know i i think i got ahead of

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myself i want to do verse 11 first and then we'll get there and from that and from the time

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that the daily sacrifice should be taken away and the abomination that make a desolate set

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up there should be one should be a thousand two hundred and ninety days so i know i'm explaining

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a lot quickly but i think what the bible clearly teaches is that there will be a third temple

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and at this third temple there will begin animal sacrifices okay so and this is this is not even

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like jonathan shelly's idea this is being talked about all the time i did a debate on this where

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jews are saying they're trying to do this they're trying to get red heifer cattle raised in texas of

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all places put into israel so they can start slaughtering these animals every day they want to have

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a temple where they're slaughtering animals every day because here's the thing what did jews believe

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they don't believe that jesus was their messiah they reject him so then they need to keep

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following the quote old testament sacrifices so continuing the old testament sacrifices would

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be a denial rejection of jesus christ now why were those originally taken away because in 70 ad

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the romans came and stopped that of course because they rejected jesus christ and god

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was mad at them and punished them and then scattered them in all nations so bringing it back

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has nothing to do with jesus as everything to do with that anti christ spirit that was there at

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70 ad and it's just a rehashing of what was already going on those the sacrifices have been

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done away there's nothing to do with jesus anymore it's blasphemy to offer animal sacrifices

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to god still it's a rejection of jesus but they're going to do this for

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1260 days then you're going to have the abomination of desolation which is the anti christ going

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into the temple and saying oh now you need to stop them because i have arrived the first

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coming of jesus christ now again if that was true it's logical it doesn't mean it's right it's just

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logical that if jesus wasn't really the messiah and this was the christ coming that you would stop

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the animal sacrifices that's why they're stopping the animal sacrifices because in their mind this

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is the christ which anti christ means in place of christ so they're saying this isn't jesus is

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not the real one this is the real one and he's coming in and he's the anti christ and he's going

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to declare himself god well of course if he's god then you stop doing the animal sacrifices

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you have him and of course he has his own fake death burial and resurrection because the bible

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says he'll receive a deadly wound in the eye and then he's going to come back to life a few days

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later and kind of a mount gospel but here's the problem he's not dying in the cross

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here's the problem he's not fulfilling scripture he's not born in bethlehem

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he's not going to fulfill all the biblical roles it's not going to be matching what the scripture

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teaches and additionally jesus already came we already just we just facts jesus already came

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we have christianity we have the new testament all right he's going to be the man of perdition

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but he's going to try and emulate some of these elements this mock little resurrection claim himself

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god to clear everybody worship him at this very time the bible is saying here in verse 11

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that when the daily sacrifice should be taken away because why because the antichrist is in

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there saying he's god so he's taking it away from that period to the end is 1290 days so we have 1260

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up to it 1290 after it and this is going to give us our essentially seven year period of time

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so why 1335 days in verse 12 then i don't really know how preachers interpret that verse

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okay grok would tell us that this is some event starting at the abomination desolation to the

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end and it's an extra 45 days attached to the end but the problem is that doesn't really make any sense

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and it doesn't really add anything what i believe the bible clearly teaches is that that's 1001335

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days is at the beginning so it's the beginning of that seven year period which is a difference of

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75 days from the 1260 to the 1335 so why what's this 75 day period that will be the great

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tribulation that starting with this abomination of desolation now confirmation of this concept or idea

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is in the fact that there's a lot of biblical analogies where we see rapture type events and

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they all kind of match like a 53 or 50 it's like a 53 and a half percent period of time

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which is exactly what the 75 day period would be as well so i think you could even prove

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that there's a lot of examples and reasons why that period of time matches biblically

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you know and i'm not going to go on a long uh i'm not we're not going to do that today

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we could do that in another sermon but there's a lot of examples of why that fits and why there's

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even examples of this but to say that we're just making up stuff i mean we literally have a

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verse that says 1335 days and it's like hey we think that's when the rapture is

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no nothing to point to it's just believe me because god's not a wife beater amen

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well no one's no one said that god was a wife beater did i ever say that god is going to beat you

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no the bible is teaching that the devil's the one attacking us isn't it it's the serpent that's

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coming after us it's not some you know it's not god doing it so let's go to act chapter 14

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let's go to act chapter 14 i want to show you one more verse before i move on the first point

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it's the most important point because the first verse is saying hey or the first point that he's

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making is the tribulation is the wrath of god according to the bible these are different they're

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not the same timeline they're not the same events act chapter 14 look at verse number 22 this is what

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the apostle paul said he said confirming the souls of the disciples and exhorting them to

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continue in the faith and that we must through much tribulation enter the kingdom of god so

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according to the bible we have a verse here that's clearly articulating that there's much

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tribulation that we have to enter into okay if we have to go through much tribulation then it

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doesn't make sense to try and say hey god would never appoint us to a tribulation and we don't

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have to go through any i want to go to first the sonians chapter number five now go to first

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let's jump to five so point one of the pre-trib rapture for them is tribulation is not the

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wrath of god but then the bible clearly says hey we got to go through tribulation

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and that's what makes sense historically historically christians are always going through

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tribulation we're always being persecuted yay and all that will live godly in christ jesus

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shall suffer persecution okay now second point of his pre-tribulation pre-tribulation rapture

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is that the church is not appointed to wrath this is why it doesn't really matter at this

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point because we've already proved that wrath and tribulation aren't the same thing

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so you know what we can say yeah we believe that we're pre-wrath but of course people will say hey

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this is approved for the pre-trib rapture it doesn't really prove the pre-trib rapture but

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first the sonians chapter number five like verse nine for god had not appointed us to wrath

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but to obtain salvation by lord jesus christ amen i do not believe that god will pour out a wrath

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on anybody that's saved you know whether that be hell or whether that be hell on earth god is

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not going to appoint us to such a thing and so that's why we are raptured that's why we're delivered

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that's why we're saved um in first lesson is chapter four which is preceding this is the famous

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rapture passage of the bible okay first lesson in chapter number four i want to start in verse number

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13 but i would not have you to be ignorant brethren considering them which are asleep that you

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saw or not even as others which have no hope for if we believe that jesus died and rose again

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even so them also which sleep in jesus will god bring with them for this we say undue by the word of

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the lord that we which are alive and remain under the coming of the lord shall not prevent them which

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are asleep for the lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout with the voice of the arch

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angel and with the trump of god and the dead and cry shall rise first then we which are alive

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and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the lord in the air

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and so shall we ever be with the lord where for comfort one another with these words now according

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to the bible of course this is supposed to be comforting words and yet you know they will say

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well how is telling me that i'm gonna have to go through the tribulation comforting it's not

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but here's the thing the context is not saying all right guys you're gonna go through tribulations

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to be comforted the comfort is that those that have died are still gonna come to the rapture

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that they're gonna still be resurrected that they're not gonna miss out on the resurrection

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and that people that have died you're gonna still get to see and glory that's what's the comfort the

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comfort is hey i know that so-and-so died but you'll see them again in the resurrection that's

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the comfort the comfort is the context is not hey you're gonna go through this difficult

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tribulation be comforted by that of course no one is being comforted by that idea no one's

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excited about getting their head chopped off no one's excited about famine no one's excited about

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be hunting down no one's excited about being betrayed but you know what we're all comforted and notice

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again comforted what is why would you be comforted because you're not experiencing comfort you know

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if you're if you're being comforted you're not currently doing good because you don't need to

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be comforted if you're doing great like imagine someone's like i'm having the best day of my life

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would you like me to comfort you you know hey i'm i'm on cloud nine nothing bad's happening

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should i comfort you you're being comforted because of something negative what's the negative

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someone's died you've lost someone that you care about you lost someone that you love

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and so you're being comforted with the fact that hey you'll be rejoined to them

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that's the whole point of comfort and if you're in comfort in the bible is always

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comforted with tribulation itself you're being comforted of tribulation

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so to then say that oh god is not going to comfort you about tribulation is missing the whole

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point of the new testament god is constantly comforting us in tribulation tribulation of

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anything you know the death of a loved one or suffering or pain or woe or persecution for

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the cause of christ and in fact this specific uh you know book of the bible is all about

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tribulation you know it brings up tribulation repeatedly in this particular epistle and

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it's warning about tribulation that's going to happen so it would make no sense if this whole

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passage is telling us you're not going to go through tribulation i mean look look at a couple

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verses look at chapter three verse seven therefore brethren we were comforted over you

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in all our affliction and distress by your faith

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hey i was comforted you know about y'all's affliction and again it's just silly to sit here and then

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say like oh this is teaching that you'll never have any tribulation god would never put us through

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tribulation no god won't put us through wrath i get it but tribulation is expected tribulation

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is guaranteed if you're gonna live godly and so it's kind of silly to try and make that

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particular point um he's going to deliver us from the wrath of come that's what they say in verse

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10 look at chapter one verse 10 and to wait for his son from heaven whom he raised from the dead

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even jesus which delivered us from the wrath to come okay but wait a minute that doesn't say

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tribulation and we've already distinguished those two words so then we don't get them conflated

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most of the teaching on the preacher rapture it's all about just conflating tribulation to

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wrath once you separate these two they have nothing that they can even twist it's just all

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about a conflation of these terms okay go over to luke 21 go to luke 21 here's another thing that he

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would constantly say and this is compelling to me when i was younger and didn't know the bible very

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well is they would just say well god usually delivers people before he judges so you know that's

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why he's not going to put us through the seven years and he would say you know look at examples

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of noah and look at examples of lot and the bible brings these examples of and how he delivered

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these particular people but but i want to read this and then think about it for a second look at

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luke 21 verse 36 watch ye therefore and pray always that you may be kind of worthy to escape all these

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things that should come to pass and to stand before the son of man now you know this this

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only can really lend itself to a works-based salvation because think about it what is the

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context the context is what we have been talking about the end times and and all these you know

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evil things that are going to happen um he's saying hey you should be counted worthy to escape

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all these things that shall come to pass well wait a minute who in here is worthy

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you know in a salvific perspective no one where none of us are worthy so we're all

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saved by grace and if we're all saved by grace then wouldn't and if all the saved are going to be

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raptured then why am i praying to escape i wouldn't need to pray to escape if it's if every saved

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person is going to automatically escape so here's the thing the context couldn't be clear that not

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all saved will escape right i mean if you're if i'm praying i'm saying hey ask god and hope god

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that's going to count you worthy to the escape well then you have to then teach another heresy

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which would be works-based salvation because they would say like oh well you know all the saved

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are going to be ones that escape and see you're praying to be worthy because they think you

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had to be doing enough works to have been saved to then be worthy to escape because all the

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savering escape but we understand that not all the saved are going to escape but see we're not

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talking about going to heaven or hell we're talking about escaping the the afflictions of dying

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during this tribulation period okay but you know this this is what i like about this because i think

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talking about this and bringing this up is not necessarily that much fun because it's like i

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don't want to go through evil i don't want to go through difficulty i don't like persecution

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no one enjoys it but you know what the bible is kind of teaching that the best christians are

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the ones that are going to escape it's not saying like the worst christians it's saying hey

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that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that are going to come to pass

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so to me the bible is almost indicating that the best christians are the ones that are the most

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likely to end up being raptured so you know that should comfort the new ivy because hey

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you're like i'm going through all this difficulty we're on the front lines or constantly persecuted

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but then it's like god's trying to say well you know what if you're praying you're seeking

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the lord and you're serving him you're the guys that are going to be worthy to be counted to

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escape all these things whereas the person that's lawful lazy accomplishing nothing

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chop them block you know and again doesn't that fit almost every other passage in the bible if

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you're not abiding in the vine then he's just going to cast you as a branch and you'll be tossed

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in the fire hey if it's salt is lost to savor it's you know basically going to be trodden

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a foot of men and you know the bible talks about how the city is going to be trodden the

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foot of the gentiles you know like if you really kind of think about all these passages

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that we typically don't have an exact parallel for they can all apply to the end times because in

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the end times you could just say hey all these christians that aren't worth their salt all

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these christians that are hiding their light under a bushel all these christians that are not

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abiding in the vine all these christians that are not really serving god hey they're doing

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things despite the spirit of grace well there's going to be a fiery or there's going to be a

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judgment and fiery indignation to the adversaries and so you know it could we could literally

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see just tons of backslidden christians and worldly christians are there on the front lines of the

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slaughterhouse because there's just no point in keeping them around now if we think about that

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in context of the noah and the lot because that's why he's bringing this stuff up because he's

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bringing up noah and lot as in the days of no and the days of lot is going to be these times

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and he's pointing to this particular verse but but think about it was every single person

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unsaved when noah got on the ark like is every single person just an unsaved person except for

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noah and just like his few family members i don't personally believe that i don't think that makes

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sense but maybe maybe no is the only one worthy to escape so you know in the same way that it

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could be like hey this one's the only one worthy i mean think about this let's go to lot i think

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it's reasonable to think that maybe even his wife was saved but sees thing she turned back and wasn't

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really worthy to escape and she turns into a pillar of salt that's a meaningless pillar of salt and

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then jesus even brings it up remember lots wife you know why why why remind christians about lots

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wife let's just say lots wife was not saved well i don't need to even warn you about that because

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she was unsaved of course she was going to turn back i think the point is about the you know

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queer loving freak christians out there that are going to turn back and they're just like oh these

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poor little sodomites whatever and it's like turning us all you know worthless i don't even

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want to see you anymore just you know whatever but at the end of the day like the i don't think the

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bible through the examples of no and lot could not be interpreted through our lens of scripture

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totally fits totally makes sense and yeah they were delivered from the wrath of god not

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tribulation lot you know had to go through some persecution didn't he i mean you got guys

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beating on his door and you got guys like grabbing them or whatever or trying to get you know

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and then he's just pulled out before the fire and brimstone come even even uh noah is obviously

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going through some kind of evil because the whole world's just awful i mean the whole world is

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just terrible at that time so of course he's a preacher of righteousness and a very sinful

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world and i think we're going to see that exact example in the end times we're going to have

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few preachers of righteousness and the rest of the world is going to be a wicked hell hole

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just super evil everywhere but that does not mean that we can't be delivered and doesn't mean

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that we can't be the ones that even get raptured you know praise god i think that there's a

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there's a there's a recompense to those who serve god and look i'm not saying all of us i'm not

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saying that i wouldn't be the first beheaded because it's possible okay but i am saying that

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according to the bible we could pray that we would be counted worthy to escape all those things and

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this is what this is what i really like about this maybe this is you know maybe you're scared

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maybe you're a lady i want you to circle a word okay in verse 36 to escape all that's nice

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he did he said all he didn't say some he said all wouldn't it be nice to think hey i'm not going to

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go through the famine i'm not going to go through the war i'm not going to go through any of those

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things i'm not even getting betrayed i'm going to escape all of those things according to the bible

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some people could be counted worthy to escape all these things so you know what hey don't don't

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think that there's no reward to serving god don't think that being on the right track

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doesn't have its benefits because i believe that some people are going to escape all of these things

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and it's in there they're afraid of a boogie man they're afraid of nothing you know what we ought

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to fear god and not man hey there there are some people that lived in egypt that escaped all the

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plagues right i mean none of the plagues touched them they're living in goshen they're still

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getting all the blessings of god while the whole world's being plagued and tormented and

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tortured at the same time it's like hey believe in god believe that god can put you where he

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needs to put you and that god can provide for you and that you don't even have to worry about

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and in fact i don't i don't even think that god uh requires us to come up with some tribulation

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strategy you know i i listened to some sermons it was like i think it was like my manly

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parry or something and he was like he was like coming up with those like tribulation strategy

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of of storing all this food and like all of these escape plans and like all like i don't

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think you need that just like i don't think that i need my toddlers or five-year-old to

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figure out how they're going to pay the bills this week or how dinner is going to be put

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on the table like mom and dad got it you know and at the end of the day i think that dad's

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got it in the sense that like our heavenly father is got it for us he's the one that's

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prepared the place i mean think about the disciples and jesus they didn't even just

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they didn't do anything for the Passover they just showed up and then jesus is like hey

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go grab a donkey and then that's where we're gonna have dinner

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and everything was already prepared for them someone had literally prepared the entire meal

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the furnishings the meal everything's just ready to go they did nothing they just showed up

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and it's just like here's a meal for you yeah but who is it for the disciples not for the

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backslidden christians not for the worldly christians not for the ones doing their own

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thing the disciples they had a feast prepared for them that they did nothing they're just

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serving god get the last supper those who are doing their own thing they got to prepare their own

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their own way just some just some thoughts they're gonna matthew 24 again go to matthew 24

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he's gonna you know in his little video he's bringing up no and lot and and kind of pointing

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to some of these things being counted worthy to escape i don't think the counted worthy means

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you're saved it's that you're saved and serving god but for the work he's the work salvationist

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they then turn this into like another work salvation lords of salvation which of course jimmy evans

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teaches lords of salvation so i don't think he's saved but matthew 24 look at verse 37

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we'll read a little bit more of this passage it says but as the days of noah were social also

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the coming of the son of man be for as in the days that were before the flood they

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were eating and drinking marrying giving and marriage until the day that noah or no he entered

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into the ark and they knew not until the flood came and took them all away so shall also the

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coming of the son of man be now obviously the world is a vast place and people are going

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through different experiences i think from an american perspective this could be very literal

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that in america even in that first four seals that we as americans are experiencing very little

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ramification and that most of that experience is happening in europe okay now again i could be

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wrong timelines could be off i don't know my personal opinion is that the end times is

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going to be a war on islam now here's the thing there's some islam here but there's not a lot

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and if we went to full war it could be over pretty quick and most of us may not experience

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that much but europe is a different story and europe has a much more entrenched islamic population

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and they're disarmed as a population and they've rejected god for a long period of time and i think

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personal opinion god could be judging europe for their rejection of god by bringing them islam

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in that we see a third or fourth of the world dying it's because europe is just awful europe

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is and again you know from a soul winning perspective think about this like most of us

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aren't like real jazz to go to europe to go soul winning anyways because of how unreceptive

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and how expensive and hot and liberal and weird it is and it illegal that for the most part

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there's not even a lot of saints over there anyways so that for most most people during that

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bearded time most christians most of the zealous christians they're just not there and then the

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handful that are there they just kind of probably either escape or leave or whatever so it's pretty

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realistic to think that for most christians for the first half you know three and a half years

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there's not really necessarily a direct confrontation to us we're still doing our thing you know

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africa's still going to be africa and the caribbean's probably still being the caribbean

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and we can go do soul winning and do whatever and then the whole world is just struggling with

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that so i don't want you to think that like it couldn't be exactly like saying people are eating

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people in our churches are getting married i mean hey if we saw these things happening i think

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we could see a lot of marriages this is my personal opinion i mean these these single guys might be like

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well hey it's now or never you know what i mean like i know i was i know i was wanting like you

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know this like celebrity or whatever you know whatever they were wanting and they're just like

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fine you know i'll actually go with someone on my level you know because because they're

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kind of like a five looking for an 11 you know and it's like fine i'll take a six you know it's

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just like bro she's still better than you but you know whatever i mean i'm just being honest with you

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i could see some people and again young ladies during this time i could see them wanting a

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husband and wanting someone to provide and take care of them during this time so i could i could

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see just an explosion of marriages at this time and even in america just random people just getting

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married and whatever just living their life getting married young people getting married buying

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drinking doing all these things i mean babel on according to the bible is just having a heyday

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all the way to the end i mean just to the very end i mean ships over the whole world are coming

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to wherever babel on is and they're just having all kinds of stuff and the luxuries are not

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going to cease although there'll be famines and parts of the world and some people are struggling

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i think for some they're going to be enjoying still and still having luxuries and whatever

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so i don't see how this is necessarily wrong and it's just saying it wasn't until the flood came

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and then a judgment i think again probably if it were to happen anytime soon america's probably

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babel on and for the unsaved american he will have a good time all the way up until the battle

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of armageddon like right around that time period when the ten kings they all sin their arrows

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and and babel on just basically nuked off the planet and it's just a sudden destruction

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and they're just pretty much wiped out but for those that are saved we would have been a rapture

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or delivered you know three and a half years prior minus 75 days so that's just kind of just

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i'm just throwing out some ideas out there giving you some kind of timeline well let's go to just

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a few more passages and we'll finish look at verse 13 the bible says but he that shall endure under

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the end the same shall be saved again work salvationist love this verse but what's the context the context

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of the tribulation period and for and for christians going through this tribulation some will have to

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endure at the end and they'll be saved this is what jimmy ebbon says repeatedly in the in the video

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nowhere in the bible is it saying for christians to pray for endurance and i'm just like what what

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how about endure hardness as a good soldier of jesus christ how about just be be steadfast

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what do you think steadfast means it's talking about endurance it's talking about not being moved

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okay endurance is a major aspect of the christian life it's crazy to think that we don't have to endure

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and of course the bible is telling us to endure here so obviously we should pray for

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that endurance we should pray that we would escape all these things we should continue

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serving god and you know we shouldn't be always afraid of a bogeyman because in many cases is

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never going to come we should just trust god though we went to i want to go to like

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just revelation chapter one we'll just finish here's a couple other verses to think about

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roman's 1212 rejoicing in hope patient and tribulation continuing instant in prayer the

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bible constantly talks about tribulation how we're going to go through it but what should we

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do we should be patient and tribulation right whatever difficult as you go through second

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carinthians chapter one verses three through four talk about how god comforts us in all our

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tribulation so again just it's nonsense to say that these things wouldn't happen

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you know the bible talks about not a hair of your head being injured during these periods of

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time there's so much script there's so many verses we could talk about but this is what

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i think is funny go to revelation one and look at verse nine is this whole epistle is supposed

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to tell me that i'm not going to go through tribulation right from a pre-trip perspective

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like the whole epistles like explain to me how i'm not going to go through tribulation

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and then it's like verse nine i john who also i'm your brother and companion companion

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in tribulation i'm telling you that we're not going to be in tribulation like how am i a companion

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with him if he's in tribulation and i'm not in tribulation or i'm not going to go through

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tribulation like it's just silly he's like hey no i'm your companion in tribulation

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and what's what's the point because the book of revelation is going to tell us about a lot of

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tribulation christianity we're going through much tribulation we must through much tribulation

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enter into the kingdom of god better revelation seven verse 14 this is the last one i'll look at

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but it's just so funny let's just not confuse the terms tribulation and wrath different terms

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different meanings first three and a half years tribulation 75 days great tribulation

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the last 42 months wrath of god and again i'm minus the 75 days but sixth seal

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is not the first seal okay i don't know if that's a hard point for you to remember all right

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the sixth seal is of course we know as the rapture and we believe that's the 1335 days

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that's that's why it's blessed to wait until that period being patient in that tribulation

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enduring under the end being counted worthy to escape all these things and to be caught up with

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the lord and praise god even if you die you're going to still be at that same event though we're all

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going to be at that moment of time we're either coming with jesus christ or we're being caught up

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together to meet jesus christ in the air and then we'll be with him forever more we'll always

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be with jesus christ that's pretty cool like once we get there we'll never not be with jesus

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ever again we'll always be with him and we'll never not be with him our fate will turn to sight

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we'll have a resurrected new body we'll get to rule and reign with christ for a thousand years

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it's crazy to think all this has happened okay anybody that thinks that is crazy all right

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and and look i guess you could say like hey would it be cool to hit a button like the world's

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going into chaos and you can just hit a button and go to heaven yeah it sounds kind of cool but you

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know for a man what if i said hey you get to play in game seven of the world series or game seven

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of the nba finals or hey it's the super bowl and you have two options you can either play and

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it's going to be a tough game and you're going to get some hard hits but you can win or you

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can just tap a button and just get the trophy it's like you lived your whole life up to this moment to

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play the game it's like why wouldn't you this then play that game you kind of want to you kind of

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want to be in and it's like hey you can play in the game and win and score the touchdown or we

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can just hit the button and you'll get the trophy but these guys are going to score the

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touchdowns and these guys are going to be the ones that you know like i know the preacher

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raptor kind of sounds cool but at the same time it's also kind of like not cool because i think for

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most of us you know especially that like athletics it's like we've lived our whole life up to this

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moment we want to go through it we want to experience it we want to see it i think hey let's

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you know if we ask women the other side it's like hey all right you're starting the labor pains

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you can just hit a button and you're holding the baby all right i think someone would press

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that button okay i'm not don't hear wrong but you know i think there's some woman that wouldn't

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even want to press it they would say i kind of want to go through it and see what it was like

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and you know have that that experience even though it wasn't necessarily the most enjoyable

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experience okay and again i don't judge you if you're like but all right but at the end of the

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day some of us want to actually go through it some of us actually want to see it and so you

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know it's not just all cool or whatever that oh well the pre-trips way better not necessarily

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and think about it this way what if you could say hey you're going to go through that experience

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with no pain and you're going to escape all those things then you'd like i definitely want to press

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it you know there's no guarantee but you know hey pray that you're kind of worthy and of course

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at the end of the day what will happen verse 14 and i said to him sir thou knowest and he

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said it to me these are the which came out of great tribulation and have washed their robes

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and made them white in the blood lamp there's a group of people in heaven and it's like hey

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where the heck did these people come from they came from great tribulation how could you then

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say that the people in heaven that came from great tribulation god will never put you through

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great tribulation he's saying this is where they came from but this is this again from a

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pre-tripper second this is what they teach and i'm not going to i'm not going to spend more

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time on this but you know there's tribulation saints it's like we all get saved and then

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some people later get saved and they're the tribulation ones but they sound pretty cool

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like you know i want to be like them again then they have to invent you know where how

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do they get their rapture where's their timing they can't point to these so again the preacher

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rapture is just wishful thinking but in a sense it's just not in the bible it doesn't make sense

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and it's confusing and then you screw up a lot of other passages and why it's important to

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believe it is because if it's going to happen we should at least prepare mentally and say hey i

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want to be a good soul winner now and i want to be right with god now and i want to pray that i'm

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counted worthy to escape i think those that are in pre-trib land and not going soul winning

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are not going to be ones counted worthy to escape those things so and in some sense you know they

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will get up there really quick by being slaughtered all right they thought it was going to be a

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rapture and it was a slaughtering okay so let's let's go some prayer thank you heavenly

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father so much for your word thank you so much for these examples i pray that we would not

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be afraid or scared of what the future beholds but rather we would look through with eyes with faith

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through the scripture that we would see that hey for some people where they're going to be counted

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worthy to escape i pray that we would strive for being counted worthy that we would be embrace

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the end times whether that happens in our life or not and that we would encourage the next

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generation i pray that you would help us to live our lives to the fullest and to take full advantage

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of the time that we have and that we would not be scared of the serpent but rather we would fear

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only you and in jesus name we pray amen

