WEBVTT 00:02.460 --> 00:05.620 You try reading through that chapter out loud. 00:05.780 --> 00:06.480 It's pretty hard, huh? 00:07.020 --> 00:09.740 What to teach on from Genesis 36? 00:10.320 --> 00:13.420 So many names here, of course, but there is a lot that we 00:13.420 --> 00:15.240 are going to glean from this evening. 00:16.240 --> 00:19.260 And chapter 36 is essentially referred to as the Tolodoth 00:19.260 --> 00:23.620 because of the fact that it's essentially talking about 00:23.620 --> 00:27.920 the descendants of Esau whose name is also Edom. 00:28.340 --> 00:29.980 Now before we get into 36, let's go back 00:29.980 --> 00:32.880 to 35 because on Sunday night I was trying to catch up 00:32.880 --> 00:35.400 from last week and I'm just going to briefly give you 00:35.400 --> 00:39.080 a recap and just share with you some of the other things 00:39.080 --> 00:42.460 that we see in chapter 35 leading into 36. 00:42.620 --> 00:47.040 In chapter 35, we have Jacob and his family going back 00:47.040 --> 00:47.540 to Bethel. 00:47.580 --> 00:50.040 Of course, we know that Jacob said to his household 00:50.040 --> 00:52.340 to put away the strange gods that are among them, 00:52.420 --> 00:54.720 to be clean, and to change their garments. 00:55.200 --> 00:56.920 And really when you look at chapter 35, 00:56.920 --> 00:58.400 you kind of come to the conclusion 00:58.780 --> 01:00.540 that it's just the chapter of death. 01:01.160 --> 01:02.220 All you have throughout the chapter 01:02.220 --> 01:04.960 is these prominent people within the family 01:04.960 --> 01:06.220 of Jacob just dying. 01:06.960 --> 01:09.260 And in fact, the first one that we see in verse eight 01:09.260 --> 01:09.860 is Deborah. 01:10.380 --> 01:12.580 It says, but Deborah, Rebecca's nurse died 01:12.580 --> 01:15.900 and she was buried beneath Bethel under an oak 01:15.900 --> 01:18.960 and the name of it was called Alon Bakuth. 01:19.160 --> 01:21.440 So we have here the first death 01:21.440 --> 01:23.140 that's really mentioned in chapter 35. 01:23.500 --> 01:25.400 Later on we have another prominent death 01:25.400 --> 01:26.980 which is Rachel, okay? 01:26.980 --> 01:30.780 And she actually ends up dying, giving birth to Benjamin. 01:30.980 --> 01:33.460 If you look over at verse number 18, 01:33.620 --> 01:34.760 it says, and it came to pass, 01:35.440 --> 01:37.520 as her soul was in departing, 01:37.760 --> 01:41.240 for she died, that she called his name Ben and I, 01:41.580 --> 01:44.120 but his father called him Benjamin. 01:44.380 --> 01:46.840 And Rachel died and was buried in the way of Ephrath, 01:47.100 --> 01:48.620 which is Bethlehem. 01:48.780 --> 01:51.880 So we have the return to Bethel, Deborah dies. 01:52.320 --> 01:54.060 The promise is once again reinstated 01:54.060 --> 01:56.520 and reapplied to Jacob. 01:56.520 --> 01:58.040 We have Rachel dying. 01:58.540 --> 02:00.360 And then we have this really weird situation 02:00.920 --> 02:04.620 where Reuben lays with his father's concubine. 02:05.140 --> 02:07.080 It says in verse number 22, 02:07.580 --> 02:10.100 and it came to pass when Israel dwelt in that land 02:10.560 --> 02:13.580 that Reuben went and lay with Bilhah 02:13.580 --> 02:15.380 his father's concubine. 02:15.860 --> 02:19.520 And Israel heard it, now the sons of Jacob were 12. 02:19.640 --> 02:20.680 Now this is really random, right? 02:20.800 --> 02:22.780 You have him laying with Bilhah 02:23.300 --> 02:25.780 and it's just kind of inserting that information 02:25.780 --> 02:26.780 into the chapter. 02:27.300 --> 02:28.740 And there's two things that we see here. 02:28.780 --> 02:31.600 Number one is the fact that this is the reason why, 02:32.200 --> 02:34.400 even though Reuben is the first born, 02:34.920 --> 02:36.400 even though he's supposed to receive, 02:36.980 --> 02:39.760 you know, Jacob's strength and the blessings, 02:40.320 --> 02:41.880 you know, we see in chapter 49, 02:42.120 --> 02:43.660 when Jacob is blessing his sons, 02:44.100 --> 02:46.140 that he basically, to a certain degree, 02:46.660 --> 02:47.960 curses Reuben, right? 02:48.020 --> 02:49.580 He says, unstable as water, 02:50.120 --> 02:50.940 thou shalt not excel. 02:51.400 --> 02:52.620 And he says, why? 02:52.620 --> 02:54.940 It's because he essentially committed 02:54.940 --> 02:56.600 this grievous sin with Bilhah. 02:57.200 --> 02:59.480 And we have here a statement that's made 02:59.480 --> 03:01.800 that says that Israel heard it. 03:02.200 --> 03:04.180 And it kind of helps us to realize that, you know, 03:04.280 --> 03:06.500 Israel to a certain degree was a very passive person, 03:06.780 --> 03:08.740 or at least lenient in these areas. 03:09.040 --> 03:10.360 When you heard, for example, 03:11.020 --> 03:12.300 that Dinah had committed fortification, 03:12.800 --> 03:14.180 he heard about it, 03:14.240 --> 03:15.480 but didn't really do anything about it. 03:15.660 --> 03:17.880 We see him hearing about Reuben 03:18.360 --> 03:20.640 committing this grievous sin with Bilhah 03:20.640 --> 03:21.940 and he just hears about it, 03:21.940 --> 03:23.120 but he doesn't really do anything about it. 03:23.300 --> 03:25.960 It's not until later, when he's on his deathbed, 03:26.200 --> 03:28.120 that he pronounces the curse upon Reuben. 03:28.660 --> 03:31.040 And that's a significant story there 03:31.040 --> 03:33.580 because of the fact that he doesn't receive the blessing, 03:34.000 --> 03:36.240 but the younger, younger brother does, 03:36.440 --> 03:37.480 which is Joseph, right? 03:37.980 --> 03:41.460 And so Joseph ends up being blessed of his father 03:41.460 --> 03:44.060 instead of the firstborn, which is Reuben. 03:44.180 --> 03:45.320 So we have the return to Bethel, 03:45.640 --> 03:46.960 we have the death of Deborah, 03:47.520 --> 03:49.560 unfortunately we have the death of Rachel as well, 03:49.800 --> 03:51.020 Reuben lain with Bilhah. 03:51.020 --> 03:55.800 And then the last person that dies in chapter 35 is Isaac. 03:56.220 --> 03:57.100 It says in verse 28, 03:57.360 --> 03:58.240 in the days of Isaac, 03:58.620 --> 04:00.660 we're in 104 score years. 04:01.360 --> 04:02.660 And Isaac gave up the ghost 04:02.660 --> 04:04.960 and died and was gathered into his people, 04:05.420 --> 04:06.920 being old and full of days, 04:07.260 --> 04:10.000 and his sons Esau and Jacob buried him. 04:10.160 --> 04:12.900 So that is a recap for chapter 35. 04:13.460 --> 04:15.380 Chapter 36, we're gonna mainly focus 04:15.380 --> 04:17.740 on the biblical character known as Esau, 04:17.880 --> 04:19.040 also known as Edom. 04:19.040 --> 04:19.880 Now it's important to know 04:19.880 --> 04:22.460 that both of these names refer to the same person, 04:22.700 --> 04:24.280 but it's essentially describing 04:24.280 --> 04:25.620 different aspects of who he is. 04:26.060 --> 04:28.140 He's called Esau because he's just hairy, 04:28.640 --> 04:31.880 but he's also called Edom because Edom means red, 04:32.080 --> 04:34.100 which is the color of the potage 04:34.100 --> 04:37.040 that he sold to his brother, Jacob, okay? 04:37.580 --> 04:40.560 And when he sold that to Jacob, 04:41.340 --> 04:42.380 or excuse me, when he, 04:42.800 --> 04:45.700 I'm sorry, when he despised his birthright 04:45.700 --> 04:47.960 for a bowl of red potage, 04:47.960 --> 04:52.060 it essentially describes the character of Esau 04:52.060 --> 04:54.540 that he doesn't really value spiritual things, right? 04:54.960 --> 04:56.360 He was supposed to get that birthright. 04:56.800 --> 04:58.380 It was designated for him, 04:58.440 --> 05:01.120 but he despised it, he gave it up for a bowl, 05:01.240 --> 05:03.240 a bowl of potage, red potage and so forth. 05:03.600 --> 05:06.000 And so that ultimately ends up characterizing who he is. 05:06.060 --> 05:08.400 He's referred to as Edom, which means red, 05:08.500 --> 05:11.640 and that's a callback to the bad decision that he made 05:12.000 --> 05:14.380 to give up his birthright for something temporal. 05:15.120 --> 05:17.480 Now later on, we're gonna see that Edom 05:17.480 --> 05:21.200 is the name that is used to describe the descendants of Esau, 05:21.520 --> 05:24.080 which ends up becoming a nation known as Edom, 05:24.440 --> 05:25.960 a nation that God hates. 05:26.640 --> 05:28.260 Now it's important to also understand 05:28.640 --> 05:30.840 that just because God hates that particular nation, 05:31.000 --> 05:32.100 he ends up judging that nation, 05:32.440 --> 05:34.900 it doesn't mean he hates Esau, okay? 05:35.400 --> 05:38.620 Esau is simply the guy who started off the lineage. 05:39.220 --> 05:41.220 He is their ancestor, so to speak, 05:41.560 --> 05:43.820 but we actually see that God does bless Esau. 05:44.160 --> 05:46.380 He even said that he was gonna be a great nation. 05:46.380 --> 05:48.060 He blesses his possessions. 05:48.600 --> 05:50.020 His hand is upon him to a certain degree. 05:50.220 --> 05:51.740 He's not the son of promise, 05:51.920 --> 05:55.100 but that doesn't mean that God isn't blessing him also. 05:55.600 --> 05:59.800 However, his descendants end up being really wicked people. 06:00.260 --> 06:03.220 They end up becoming adversarial towards Israel, 06:03.540 --> 06:04.920 and we're gonna visit that in just a bit. 06:05.020 --> 06:06.280 So verses one through eight, 06:06.700 --> 06:10.680 we have a separation between Esau and Jacob 06:10.680 --> 06:12.320 because of their possessions. 06:12.540 --> 06:13.700 Their possessions are too great. 06:14.260 --> 06:16.220 They can't dwell in the same land, 06:16.420 --> 06:18.360 so they end up going their separate ways. 06:18.560 --> 06:21.800 Verses nine through 14 is the description 06:21.800 --> 06:23.200 of Esau's descendants, 06:23.740 --> 06:25.540 and I want you to notice verse 12, it says, 06:25.800 --> 06:30.860 "'And Timna was concubine to a life as Esau's son, 06:30.940 --> 06:33.980 and she bared to a life as Amalek." 06:33.980 --> 06:36.440 These were the sons of Adol, Esau's wife. 06:36.620 --> 06:39.280 Now Amalek is a significant character here 06:39.280 --> 06:41.320 because he ends up being the person 06:41.790 --> 06:44.880 who becomes a nation that fights against Israel 06:44.880 --> 06:47.520 when they come out of Egypt going into the wilderness. 06:47.780 --> 06:49.000 And in fact, they're the first people 06:49.450 --> 06:51.340 that Israel as a nation fights against 06:51.340 --> 06:53.800 and they try to impede Israel and so forth. 06:53.840 --> 06:56.140 So we already see the beginnings 06:56.140 --> 06:59.740 of the descendants of Esau troubling Israel, 07:00.180 --> 07:02.040 being adversarial towards Israel, 07:02.460 --> 07:03.940 trying to hinder Israel, 07:04.140 --> 07:05.900 just when they're trying to serve the Lord, 07:06.220 --> 07:08.220 they're trying to go to the Mount to worship God 07:08.220 --> 07:10.460 and be a covenant people and so forth, 07:10.460 --> 07:13.200 yet Amalek, who are the descendants of Esau, 07:13.520 --> 07:15.220 are seeking to hinder them 07:15.220 --> 07:17.800 and we'll see the role that that plays in just a bit. 07:18.160 --> 07:22.680 Verses 15 through 19 is the list of Dukes, okay? 07:23.160 --> 07:23.900 What is a duke? 07:23.960 --> 07:26.620 A duke is simply a chief or a ruler. 07:27.200 --> 07:29.920 And we have this list being given here. 07:30.360 --> 07:33.060 And in fact, in verses 31 to 43, 07:33.520 --> 07:37.060 we see that Edom had these kings, these rulers, 07:37.540 --> 07:39.220 before Israel ever did. 07:40.120 --> 07:43.840 So you had established kings by Esau 07:43.840 --> 07:47.180 before Israel ever had Saul, 07:47.560 --> 07:49.700 before Israel had David, 07:49.880 --> 07:50.960 before he had Solomon, 07:51.160 --> 07:54.520 before any of the kings, Esau already had his kings, okay? 07:55.640 --> 07:57.740 And the biblical principle that we can learn there 07:58.160 --> 08:01.580 is that just because someone succeeds before you 08:01.580 --> 08:04.780 doesn't necessarily mean, don't become discouraged, right? 08:05.260 --> 08:08.040 You can see how Israel, though he's the promised child, 08:08.040 --> 08:09.920 though he's the one that God is with 08:09.920 --> 08:11.840 and the lineage is gonna come through him. 08:12.620 --> 08:14.500 And he can obviously look at Esau and say, 08:14.600 --> 08:15.420 man, Esau's already, 08:15.920 --> 08:17.640 the promise is already being fulfilled to him. 08:17.960 --> 08:19.680 He's getting all these kings, 08:20.160 --> 08:21.740 he's becoming a great nation, 08:22.100 --> 08:23.700 all these Dukes are coming from him. 08:24.080 --> 08:25.180 And what is Israel doing? 08:25.300 --> 08:27.160 Just wandering in the wilderness for how many years? 08:27.520 --> 08:29.540 They're just going into slavery into Egypt 08:30.120 --> 08:33.080 and their kingship doesn't come until way later. 08:33.740 --> 08:35.900 And what this shows us is that just because 08:35.900 --> 08:38.920 someone is wicked and they're succeeding now, 08:39.040 --> 08:39.940 doesn't really mean anything 08:39.940 --> 08:43.540 when it comes to eternal things, right? 08:43.600 --> 08:44.960 When it comes to God's perspective, 08:45.380 --> 08:48.340 don't become envious of sinners and of the wicked 08:48.340 --> 08:50.980 because they're succeeding more than you at this time. 08:51.180 --> 08:53.200 Because they're gonna be like the shaft 08:53.200 --> 08:55.040 which the wind drive it the way the Bible says. 08:55.620 --> 08:57.880 So even though Esau succeeded, 08:58.240 --> 09:00.040 they had a bunch of kings or a bunch of nations, 09:00.500 --> 09:01.920 we're gonna read in Obadiah 09:01.920 --> 09:04.540 that ultimately they get wiped out, you understand? 09:04.540 --> 09:07.260 And so the success of this world, 09:07.500 --> 09:10.640 though it may seem prominent, prosperous, 09:11.240 --> 09:13.040 they may seem like they have the upper hand. 09:13.440 --> 09:15.720 Let me just tell you now, it's but for a little moment. 09:16.500 --> 09:18.900 Don't think to yourself, oh man, I'm over here 09:18.900 --> 09:22.620 suffering as a Christian, I'm over here failing, 09:23.280 --> 09:25.880 I'm not succeeding, I'm not prospering, 09:26.200 --> 09:27.980 I'm not necessarily getting all the promises 09:27.980 --> 09:30.660 found in the Bible and I see eat them over here 09:30.660 --> 09:32.300 and they're over here succeeding, 09:32.540 --> 09:34.000 prospering, getting rich in possessions. 09:34.000 --> 09:35.940 They're marrying, giving in marriage 09:35.940 --> 09:37.200 and here I am suffering. 09:38.520 --> 09:39.440 What's up with that? 09:39.860 --> 09:41.980 Well, you know what, that's not a proper assessment 09:41.980 --> 09:43.720 of your situation, okay? 09:44.500 --> 09:46.100 Not a proper assessment of the will of God. 09:46.660 --> 09:49.940 It's not a proper assessment of the promises of God, okay? 09:50.500 --> 09:54.120 The Bible tells us that ye shall weep 09:54.120 --> 09:55.400 and the world shall rejoice 09:55.400 --> 09:57.620 and ye shall be sorrowful 09:57.620 --> 09:59.580 but your sorrow shall be turned into joy, 09:59.680 --> 10:01.160 the Bible tells us, that's what Jesus said. 10:01.780 --> 10:03.160 So there's times when we have to suffer 10:03.620 --> 10:04.560 and you know what? 10:04.780 --> 10:06.840 Sometimes you have to suffer as long as Israel did 10:07.160 --> 10:10.420 so that you appreciate what you have later on, understand? 10:11.100 --> 10:14.940 And before you can really enjoy the blessings of God 10:14.940 --> 10:18.780 sometimes God has to make you hit spiritual rock bottom, okay? 10:19.240 --> 10:19.540 Why? 10:19.900 --> 10:22.580 So that you're not proud, so you're not arrogant 10:22.580 --> 10:24.160 when you do get the blessings of God 10:24.160 --> 10:27.480 so you don't become just an arrogant, prideful person 10:27.880 --> 10:31.220 just puffed up thinking that it's by your might 10:31.220 --> 10:33.080 and your strength that you got these things 10:33.080 --> 10:34.380 and your talents and your gifts. 10:34.820 --> 10:36.100 You know sometimes God has to humble us 10:36.100 --> 10:38.020 and in fact when you look at the children of Israel 10:38.020 --> 10:40.320 in the wilderness, God specifically told them 10:40.320 --> 10:42.900 I allowed you to do that, I suffered you to hunger, 10:43.240 --> 10:46.180 to try you, to see if you would keep my commandments 10:46.180 --> 10:47.540 or no, all right? 10:48.160 --> 10:49.740 And you know sometimes Christians will go 10:49.740 --> 10:51.220 through a wilderness situation 10:52.020 --> 10:53.820 and the reason God allows that is 10:53.820 --> 10:55.000 because he's like all right, so what are you gonna do now? 10:55.740 --> 10:56.280 You gonna murmur? 10:57.020 --> 10:57.700 You gonna complain? 10:58.340 --> 10:59.100 Are you gonna quit? 10:59.520 --> 11:00.700 Are you gonna stop going to church? 11:01.060 --> 11:02.500 Are you gonna stop winning souls to Christ? 11:03.160 --> 11:04.020 Or what are you gonna do? 11:04.140 --> 11:07.080 Are you gonna be ungrateful for the things that you have? 11:07.660 --> 11:09.400 He's trying you through the wilderness 11:09.400 --> 11:12.300 because it's humbling you, it's preparing you 11:12.300 --> 11:14.000 because once you get the blessing 11:14.000 --> 11:15.960 if you don't experience hardship 11:15.960 --> 11:19.320 it could just easily make you prideful and arrogant 11:19.320 --> 11:21.760 because you might think well it's because of me. 11:22.340 --> 11:23.740 It's because I'm just all that. 11:24.080 --> 11:26.160 It's because I'm just naturally talented. 11:26.640 --> 11:28.480 I'm just naturally gifted. 11:29.300 --> 11:32.920 It's my abilities that got me to this point. 11:33.640 --> 11:36.260 We all need to be humbled folks, okay? 11:36.660 --> 11:38.820 And everyone has the potential 11:38.820 --> 11:40.640 to become a prideful, arrogant person 11:41.260 --> 11:43.840 with the blessings of God, all right? 11:44.400 --> 11:46.340 The blessings of God can make us think like oh man 11:46.340 --> 11:48.080 maybe there is something special about me. 11:48.580 --> 11:50.240 Maybe I am pretty talented, 11:50.400 --> 11:52.720 maybe I am pretty gifted, God is with me 11:52.720 --> 11:54.740 and these things may be true 11:54.740 --> 11:57.580 but we need to remember that we have to deflect the praise 11:57.580 --> 11:58.840 and the credit to God 11:59.460 --> 12:03.380 and part of doing that is allowing yourself to suffer 12:03.380 --> 12:04.700 when you go through a hard time. 12:05.080 --> 12:07.440 And so just because you're looking at Edom and Esau 12:07.440 --> 12:09.300 bearing all these dukes and rulers 12:09.800 --> 12:11.680 and their nation is prospering 12:11.680 --> 12:14.620 they're already established, they're going forward 12:14.620 --> 12:17.380 doesn't mean that the Lord is slack 12:17.380 --> 12:19.800 concerning his promises towards you, okay? 12:20.500 --> 12:22.780 And a lot of times people have a tendency 12:22.780 --> 12:25.720 to want like a timeline of when we get these blessings. 12:25.960 --> 12:27.600 It should be now, you know? 12:27.860 --> 12:30.360 You promised us that it should come now, you know? 12:31.120 --> 12:33.340 We're in October 1st, what's going on here? 12:33.720 --> 12:36.080 But that's not the way it works, okay? 12:36.760 --> 12:38.480 And if you feel that way 12:38.480 --> 12:40.900 then there's a virtue that you have to learn 12:40.900 --> 12:41.740 and it's called what? 12:42.380 --> 12:42.780 Patience. 12:44.500 --> 12:46.620 You're like yeah, I need patience, you know? 12:46.880 --> 12:48.820 I've been praying God to give me patience. 12:49.380 --> 12:50.820 Well the way he kind of helps you with that 12:50.820 --> 12:51.800 is by making you wait. 12:53.360 --> 12:55.740 You know, because you can't really teach anyone patience, 12:56.760 --> 12:57.180 right? 12:57.360 --> 12:59.100 It's hard for someone to learn patience. 12:59.600 --> 13:02.720 The way you basically get patience 13:02.720 --> 13:04.420 is by being forced to wait. 13:05.160 --> 13:07.440 So the more you wait for the thing that you want 13:07.440 --> 13:08.780 for the thing that you've prayed for 13:08.780 --> 13:09.820 for that particular blessing 13:10.300 --> 13:11.360 the more you endure 13:11.860 --> 13:14.380 and the more you're able to just wait upon the Lord 13:14.380 --> 13:15.900 and heal renew your strength 13:15.900 --> 13:17.460 he'll bless you in the long run for it. 13:17.840 --> 13:20.100 The point being here is that chapter 36 13:20.100 --> 13:23.880 seems to exalt the success of Esau and Edom 13:24.300 --> 13:25.820 but as we're gonna see later on 13:25.820 --> 13:27.660 it's really short lived, okay? 13:28.140 --> 13:28.700 It's like the we, 13:28.940 --> 13:30.860 it's like the chaff which the wind drive it the way. 13:31.280 --> 13:33.480 Don't compare yourself to some unsafe person 13:33.480 --> 13:35.540 who seems to be succeeding out there 13:35.540 --> 13:37.240 and they're getting the girls, 13:37.600 --> 13:38.680 they're getting the possessions, 13:39.120 --> 13:40.640 they're getting all the things that 13:40.640 --> 13:42.240 you know I deserve to have 13:42.240 --> 13:43.440 because I'm serving God 13:43.440 --> 13:45.020 and woe is me and all these things. 13:45.400 --> 13:46.520 No, just wait it out, 13:46.960 --> 13:48.120 rely upon the Lord, 13:48.120 --> 13:49.200 pray unto God, 13:49.440 --> 13:50.320 keep serving the Lord, 13:50.480 --> 13:51.520 be patient, endure 13:52.160 --> 13:54.360 and you know your time will come. 13:54.780 --> 13:56.260 So from verses 15 through 19 13:56.260 --> 13:57.140 you have these dukes, 13:57.220 --> 13:58.160 these rulers being mentioned. 13:58.860 --> 14:01.560 And then of course as I mentioned 31 through 43 14:02.240 --> 14:04.220 Edom has these kings and so forth. 14:04.360 --> 14:07.260 Now a significant aspect about this chapter 14:07.260 --> 14:08.960 is that it really 14:08.960 --> 14:12.380 you know highlights some of the main characters 14:12.840 --> 14:14.500 that later on become nations 14:14.500 --> 14:17.260 that become adversarial towards Esau. 14:17.260 --> 14:19.460 Not everyone on this list is bad. 14:20.200 --> 14:21.860 Esau isn't necessarily bad. 14:22.400 --> 14:23.500 He kind of started off bad. 14:24.140 --> 14:25.380 He was adversarial towards his brother 14:25.380 --> 14:26.160 but then he got it right. 14:27.300 --> 14:29.520 But you know Edom as a nation 14:29.520 --> 14:32.980 essentially retained those bad characteristics 14:32.980 --> 14:35.180 of Esau the individual 14:35.600 --> 14:37.100 and then some of his descendants 14:37.100 --> 14:41.680 essentially kind of retained some of that violent rage, 14:42.020 --> 14:46.280 envy and adversarial attitude towards their brother. 14:47.260 --> 14:48.960 So we're going to look at Edom as a nation. 14:49.080 --> 14:50.280 Now go to Numbers chapter 20 14:50.280 --> 14:51.460 if you would Numbers chapter 20. 14:52.520 --> 14:54.780 Let's go to Numbers chapter 20 14:55.320 --> 14:58.820 because if you know anything about the story of Esau 14:58.820 --> 15:00.140 Edom as a nation, 15:00.420 --> 15:03.300 you know that they were essentially 15:03.300 --> 15:04.620 a really wicked people 15:04.620 --> 15:06.160 that ended up getting destroyed. 15:06.760 --> 15:08.220 Now the first thing we're going to look at here 15:08.220 --> 15:11.700 is that Edom mistreated Israel. 15:12.340 --> 15:13.180 Mistreated that. 15:14.280 --> 15:15.780 You know we see that Esau 15:15.780 --> 15:19.260 to a certain degree sought to mistreat his brother Israel 15:19.260 --> 15:20.920 but then later on of course repented 15:20.920 --> 15:22.500 but his descendants did not. 15:23.040 --> 15:25.480 So very early on in the history of Israel 15:25.480 --> 15:28.060 as it's a nation trying to get right with God 15:28.060 --> 15:30.060 trying to serve the Lord and seek out God 15:30.600 --> 15:32.440 Edom was there to kind of hinder them 15:32.440 --> 15:34.840 in their service for the Lord. 15:34.960 --> 15:36.900 Look at Numbers chapter 20 and verse 14 15:36.900 --> 15:38.700 it says in Moses sent messengers 15:39.700 --> 15:42.840 Moses sent messengers from Catech unto the king of Edom 15:43.420 --> 15:44.780 Thus saith thy brother Israel 15:45.440 --> 15:47.940 Thou knowest all the travail that hath befallen us. 15:48.080 --> 15:48.640 So what is he saying? 15:49.220 --> 15:49.940 When he says brother, 15:50.220 --> 15:53.820 obviously it's a call back to Jacob and Esau being brothers 15:54.320 --> 15:56.980 but now as nations they're neighboring brothers, right? 15:57.300 --> 15:58.800 That's what you would call a neighbor of yours. 15:59.180 --> 16:01.960 So this can be applied to like you and your neighbor, right? 16:02.060 --> 16:03.300 This is how you should treat those 16:03.300 --> 16:05.320 that dwell by you, 16:05.780 --> 16:08.040 that are near you, 16:08.400 --> 16:11.120 this is you should treat them with kindness and so forth. 16:11.120 --> 16:12.420 And Moses is saying hey, 16:12.720 --> 16:14.460 you heard about everything that we've gone through 16:14.460 --> 16:18.120 with Egypt we were enslaved for 430 years 16:18.120 --> 16:21.340 mistreated by Pharaoh and we are your neighbors. 16:21.780 --> 16:22.700 We are your brothers. 16:23.600 --> 16:25.760 You know all the travail that hath been fallen us 16:25.760 --> 16:28.360 verse 15 how our fathers went down into Egypt 16:28.360 --> 16:30.440 and we have dwelt in Egypt a long time 16:30.440 --> 16:33.660 and the Egyptians vexed us and our fathers 16:34.040 --> 16:35.440 and when we cried unto the Lord 16:35.440 --> 16:37.520 he heard our voice and sent an angel 16:38.040 --> 16:39.740 and it brought us forth out of Egypt 16:39.740 --> 16:41.180 and behold we are in Tadish 16:41.180 --> 16:44.300 a city in the animals of thy border. 16:44.460 --> 16:47.800 So he's saying look God ended up delivering us 16:47.800 --> 16:50.300 and so he's kind of telling us a story to testify 16:50.840 --> 16:51.820 that God is with them. 16:52.100 --> 16:53.740 He says in verse 17 let us pass. 16:54.540 --> 16:56.580 I pray thee through thy country 16:57.300 --> 16:59.040 we will not pass through the fields 16:59.640 --> 17:00.760 or through the vineyards 17:01.320 --> 17:03.680 neither will we drink of the water of the wells. 17:04.420 --> 17:06.480 We will go by the king's highway 17:06.900 --> 17:10.380 we will not turn to the right hand nor to the left 17:10.380 --> 17:13.280 until we have passed thy borders. 17:13.760 --> 17:17.760 So Moses is being very modest in his request 17:18.140 --> 17:19.640 to be able to pass through Edom. 17:20.040 --> 17:23.860 And what should be the answer of Edom to Israel? 17:24.240 --> 17:25.300 Hey what do you mean? 17:25.880 --> 17:26.840 Come through the vineyards. 17:26.920 --> 17:27.580 Are you guys hungry? 17:28.040 --> 17:29.040 Are you guys thirsty? 17:29.840 --> 17:30.700 What do you mean the king's, 17:30.740 --> 17:31.820 the king's highway was referring to 17:31.820 --> 17:33.100 like the public highway so to speak. 17:33.880 --> 17:34.740 You're not gonna go to the public. 17:34.740 --> 17:36.540 You're like our neighbors. 17:37.320 --> 17:38.460 Come get some food. 17:38.760 --> 17:40.380 I heard about what happened over there. 17:40.540 --> 17:41.500 Come tell us the stories. 17:42.600 --> 17:46.460 Come rest a while, sit down, drink out of the wells, 17:46.840 --> 17:47.900 eat from the vineyard. 17:48.740 --> 17:50.620 Just be, they should have been hospitable 17:50.620 --> 17:51.500 is what I'm saying, right? 17:52.560 --> 17:53.700 Especially considering everything 17:53.700 --> 17:54.540 that they've gone through. 17:55.040 --> 17:56.320 They've gone through so much. 17:56.660 --> 17:59.160 The least that they can do as their brothers 17:59.160 --> 18:03.140 because they go way back is offer some assistance. 18:03.800 --> 18:06.640 And it's not like Moses is asking for anything crazy. 18:06.800 --> 18:08.020 He's just saying can we just pass through? 18:08.540 --> 18:10.900 We're on a mission, trying to go serve the Lord. 18:11.400 --> 18:13.160 All we wanna do is go through. 18:13.280 --> 18:15.640 What do we even wanna disturb you guys, okay? 18:16.600 --> 18:19.120 And so this seems legit. 18:19.280 --> 18:21.360 And even if Edom didn't wanna be hospitable 18:21.360 --> 18:22.900 he could have just let them go through 18:22.900 --> 18:23.820 the king's highway. 18:24.220 --> 18:26.140 Verse 18, and Edom said unto him, 18:26.780 --> 18:29.080 thou shalt not pass by me, 18:29.900 --> 18:32.180 lest I come out against thee with the sword. 18:33.360 --> 18:33.760 What? 18:34.760 --> 18:36.480 So aside from the fact that he's not being 18:36.480 --> 18:37.900 hospitable towards his brother, 18:38.680 --> 18:40.280 he's not letting them pass through the vineyards, 18:40.420 --> 18:41.340 the wells and so forth. 18:41.400 --> 18:42.360 Not even through the king's highway. 18:42.620 --> 18:45.660 He's like if you even step foot in our country 18:46.140 --> 18:47.100 we're gonna slay you. 18:47.220 --> 18:49.060 We're gonna fight against you, okay? 18:49.640 --> 18:50.620 Now Edom is an idiot. 18:51.580 --> 18:54.400 Because he just got finished hearing like everyone else 18:55.060 --> 18:57.760 what God did for Israel, right? 18:58.140 --> 19:00.680 The fact that he delivered Israel out of the hand of Egypt 19:00.680 --> 19:02.260 through the 10 plagues. 19:02.640 --> 19:04.240 I mean all the surrounding nations 19:04.760 --> 19:06.440 are fearing Israel at this time. 19:06.760 --> 19:07.660 And in fact many of the nations 19:07.660 --> 19:09.540 even prior to this were fearing Israel. 19:09.940 --> 19:11.920 You remember a couple chapters back 19:13.340 --> 19:15.380 when Dina committed fornication 19:15.380 --> 19:18.120 and her brothers ended up slaying the entire city. 19:18.480 --> 19:20.480 Even after that when Israel would travel 19:20.480 --> 19:23.700 all the cities were like in great fear of Israel. 19:24.320 --> 19:27.180 So the surrounding nations have always feared Israel, okay? 19:27.940 --> 19:29.080 But even more so now 19:29.080 --> 19:31.380 because of all these supernatural occurrences 19:31.380 --> 19:33.420 where God is showing himself strong on their behalf. 19:33.640 --> 19:35.740 But he's like I'm not gonna let you pass, if you do 19:36.180 --> 19:37.580 you know I'm gonna come out to you with a sword. 19:37.680 --> 19:40.020 Verse 19 in the children of Israel said unto him 19:40.020 --> 19:41.840 we will go by the highway. 19:42.700 --> 19:45.480 And if I and my cattle drink of thy water 19:45.480 --> 19:47.160 then I will pay for it. 19:47.620 --> 19:49.800 I will only without doing anything else 19:49.800 --> 19:52.400 go through on my feet. 19:52.400 --> 19:54.940 So he's like look we don't want any problems. 19:55.780 --> 19:58.620 And if we, you know if some dumb animal 19:58.620 --> 20:00.360 that we got ends up drinking from your well 20:00.360 --> 20:03.500 you know bring the receipts and we'll pay for it. 20:04.560 --> 20:06.560 I mean he's being reasonable here right? 20:08.300 --> 20:10.880 Verse 20 said Hashanah go through 20:11.360 --> 20:14.980 and Edom came out against him with much people 20:15.500 --> 20:16.740 and with a strong hand. 20:16.940 --> 20:19.120 Thus Edom refused to give Israel 20:19.120 --> 20:20.880 passage through his border 20:20.880 --> 20:24.160 where for Israel turned away from him. 20:24.240 --> 20:25.060 The Bible says sad. 20:25.560 --> 20:26.400 This is really sad. 20:27.040 --> 20:28.400 It's a neighbor, okay? 20:29.020 --> 20:30.680 Now on a large scale 20:31.360 --> 20:33.980 nations should be hospitable with other nations. 20:34.560 --> 20:37.000 Especially the nations that are surrounding you. 20:37.700 --> 20:40.320 Okay, you know in a perfect world 20:40.320 --> 20:42.540 we should be hospitable towards Mexico 20:42.540 --> 20:44.460 and Canadians and whoever else. 20:44.780 --> 20:45.140 Why? 20:45.280 --> 20:46.560 Because they are surrounding nations 20:46.560 --> 20:48.520 according to biblical principles 20:48.520 --> 20:50.540 we should be hospitable towards them. 20:50.780 --> 20:51.760 We should love them 20:51.760 --> 20:53.040 and if they're in need of something 20:53.040 --> 20:55.320 we should provide sustenance or whatever it is 20:55.320 --> 20:56.700 because that's the biblical thing to do. 20:57.560 --> 20:59.560 Yet what we have here is 20:59.560 --> 21:00.620 Edom just refusing. 21:00.880 --> 21:01.020 Why? 21:01.320 --> 21:01.900 Just for no reason. 21:02.000 --> 21:03.080 Just because he's just a jerk. 21:03.900 --> 21:05.980 Just because he just doesn't wanna help 21:05.980 --> 21:07.860 he wants to fight against Israel. 21:08.060 --> 21:10.120 He essentially retained that same 21:11.460 --> 21:13.220 adversarial envious attitude 21:13.660 --> 21:16.820 that their ancestor Esau had long ago. 21:16.820 --> 21:18.120 So he's like, 21:19.060 --> 21:21.080 we're gonna kill you with a sword if you do this. 21:21.540 --> 21:23.600 And then just to make sure that Israel understood 21:23.600 --> 21:24.560 that they weren't playing around. 21:24.860 --> 21:26.880 Edom as a nation just came out with a bunch of people 21:26.880 --> 21:29.180 just to make sure that it didn't go through, okay? 21:29.860 --> 21:30.980 Now what can we learn from this? 21:31.100 --> 21:32.380 Well, we'll see later on 21:32.380 --> 21:35.220 that God holds this against Edom, okay? 21:36.180 --> 21:37.280 And let me just tell you something. 21:37.580 --> 21:38.760 If you're wicked towards your neighbor 21:38.760 --> 21:39.960 God will remember that. 21:41.160 --> 21:42.180 God will remember that. 21:43.440 --> 21:45.700 We should with our neighbors 21:45.700 --> 21:48.000 or our brothers and sisters in Christ. 21:48.980 --> 21:49.820 People just in general, 21:49.940 --> 21:51.100 we should be gracious with people. 21:51.320 --> 21:52.960 And obviously, when I say a neighbor 21:52.960 --> 21:54.140 I'm not referring to the crack head 21:54.140 --> 21:55.240 on the corner or whatever, you know? 21:56.580 --> 21:58.840 Okay, I'm not referring to the guy who just wants drugs. 21:59.040 --> 22:01.080 He just wants to drink alcohol. 22:01.760 --> 22:04.200 He's just a derelict. 22:04.920 --> 22:05.460 We're talking about people 22:05.460 --> 22:08.000 who are desperately in need of sustenance 22:08.000 --> 22:09.920 or they come to us in need. 22:11.000 --> 22:13.120 If it's within your power 22:13.560 --> 22:15.360 to provide for your brother and sister 22:15.360 --> 22:15.820 you should. 22:16.900 --> 22:18.300 You know, that's what the Bible tells us to do 22:18.300 --> 22:19.340 in James chapter two, right? 22:19.980 --> 22:21.540 If thy brother or sister be naked 22:21.540 --> 22:22.840 in destitute of daily food 22:22.840 --> 22:24.940 and one of you saying to them be warmed and filled 22:24.940 --> 22:26.180 not with standing to give them 22:26.180 --> 22:27.640 not those things which are needful for the body 22:27.640 --> 22:29.400 what does it profit even so faith 22:29.400 --> 22:31.080 that the path not works is dead being alone? 22:31.540 --> 22:32.920 Now, you know, Edom should have been like 22:32.920 --> 22:33.780 be warmed and filled. 22:34.140 --> 22:34.880 But they didn't do that. 22:34.980 --> 22:36.620 They just said like, we'll kill you 22:36.620 --> 22:39.040 if you come near us for no reason. 22:39.220 --> 22:40.760 Just literally listen to this. 22:41.140 --> 22:43.640 Hating them without a cause. 22:44.520 --> 22:45.100 Okay. 22:45.380 --> 22:46.620 Remember that for later on. 22:47.360 --> 22:51.540 So you have here Edom just behaving absolutely wicked 22:51.540 --> 22:52.900 for no apparent reason. 22:53.420 --> 22:54.340 And it's sad. 22:54.440 --> 22:55.980 It's causing them to go the long way. 22:56.240 --> 22:56.860 But you know what? 22:57.000 --> 22:57.640 Just remember this. 22:57.960 --> 22:59.280 When people wrong you, 22:59.740 --> 23:01.760 when other Christians wrong you 23:01.760 --> 23:04.020 when whoever it is wrongs you, 23:04.080 --> 23:05.880 you know, God takes note of that. 23:06.800 --> 23:08.840 Benjans is my state the Lord 23:08.840 --> 23:11.420 I will repay the Bible says. 23:11.920 --> 23:13.420 And in, you know, 23:13.940 --> 23:15.000 Hebrews chapter 10 it says 23:15.000 --> 23:17.840 I will repay and the Lord shall judge his people. 23:18.500 --> 23:20.920 So God strikes vengeance on the unsafe 23:20.920 --> 23:23.180 for their mistreatment of God's people. 23:23.420 --> 23:24.280 But in like manner, 23:24.460 --> 23:27.140 he also strikes vengeance upon say people 23:27.880 --> 23:29.260 for their unrighteousness 23:29.260 --> 23:32.100 and for behaving wickedly against their brother 23:32.100 --> 23:33.540 for hating their brother, whatever it may be. 23:33.880 --> 23:36.480 He will strike vengeance upon both parties. 23:36.740 --> 23:38.380 And he's not partial about that 23:38.380 --> 23:39.520 because he's a God of justice. 23:40.140 --> 23:41.380 Now usually you're like, yeah, amen. 23:41.600 --> 23:42.700 Well that applies to you too though. 23:43.620 --> 23:44.700 So you better make sure 23:45.220 --> 23:47.180 that you are a righteous brother, 23:47.680 --> 23:49.440 that you are a hospitable person 23:49.440 --> 23:51.380 and you don't just go around hating people 23:51.380 --> 23:52.120 without a cause. 23:52.540 --> 23:54.560 Don't be a hater, right? 23:55.120 --> 23:56.400 Don't be just some hater 23:56.400 --> 23:58.040 just hating on people 23:58.560 --> 24:00.180 and envying their success 24:00.180 --> 24:01.300 and mistreating them 24:01.300 --> 24:03.720 just because maybe they're ahead, 24:04.260 --> 24:06.520 more ahead than you or whatever it may be 24:06.520 --> 24:07.940 or maybe you just have some resentment 24:07.940 --> 24:09.100 and bitterness towards them. 24:09.100 --> 24:11.520 Be a gracious Christian with others 24:12.000 --> 24:13.580 and if you don't want to be, 24:14.180 --> 24:15.600 well, you know, God will remember that 24:16.820 --> 24:17.800 for the sake of others. 24:17.940 --> 24:21.140 So Edom mistreats Israel right off the bat 24:21.140 --> 24:21.860 and we see this here. 24:21.980 --> 24:24.500 Go to Exodus chapter 17, Exodus 17. 24:27.540 --> 24:29.140 Exodus chapter 17. 24:33.480 --> 24:35.400 Esau was a good guy, you know, 24:35.920 --> 24:38.400 a good guy, but his descendants were bad. 24:38.400 --> 24:39.660 Not all of them, 24:39.860 --> 24:42.840 but it only takes like two or three bad nations 24:42.840 --> 24:44.340 to just mess up the entire thing. 24:44.880 --> 24:46.020 To be characterized, 24:46.540 --> 24:48.700 to characterize the entire nation, right? 24:49.600 --> 24:50.680 And think about this, you know, 24:50.820 --> 24:53.140 not everyone of Esau's descendants were bad, 24:53.520 --> 24:55.480 but just a few that were were enough 24:55.480 --> 24:58.520 to just destroy the entire nation, okay? 24:59.080 --> 25:00.540 Four by one man, right? 25:00.800 --> 25:01.580 Send Kim into the world. 25:02.360 --> 25:04.660 And so don't underestimate 25:05.240 --> 25:07.460 the ripple effects of your bad decision. 25:08.400 --> 25:10.180 You know, your bad decision as a father 25:10.180 --> 25:11.180 could affect your whole family. 25:11.260 --> 25:12.360 Your bad decision as a son 25:12.360 --> 25:13.920 can affect your whole family and so forth. 25:14.380 --> 25:15.300 It has a ripple effect. 25:15.900 --> 25:17.680 So Edom mistreated Israel. 25:18.200 --> 25:19.380 We see that in a number, chapter 20. 25:19.860 --> 25:22.160 He was also just violent against Israel. 25:22.880 --> 25:25.480 So aside from the fact that he's threatening Israel, 25:26.040 --> 25:27.580 he's not letting them pass. 25:27.940 --> 25:30.800 He's not allowing him to go into the mountain 25:31.300 --> 25:33.020 and pass through to worship God. 25:33.380 --> 25:34.360 On top of that, 25:34.520 --> 25:36.540 he's also being violent towards them. 25:37.060 --> 25:39.540 Look at Exodus chapter 17 25:40.120 --> 25:42.080 and verse number eight here. 25:42.580 --> 25:43.980 It says then came Amalek. 25:44.120 --> 25:45.800 I'm sorry, this is not referring to Edom, 25:45.980 --> 25:47.820 but it is referring to Amalek, okay? 25:48.240 --> 25:50.300 And Amalek is still a descendant of Esau. 25:50.420 --> 25:52.200 So it's not directly referring to Edom, 25:52.380 --> 25:54.260 but it's Edom at large, so to speak, 25:54.300 --> 25:56.740 because of the fact that they're descendants of Esau. 25:57.180 --> 25:59.180 We see in verse number nine, 26:00.120 --> 26:01.420 excuse me, verse 10. 26:01.780 --> 26:03.520 So Joshua did as Moses had said 26:04.360 --> 26:06.320 to him and fought with Amalek. 26:07.000 --> 26:10.840 And Moses, Aaron and her went up to the top of the hill. 26:10.860 --> 26:12.980 And it came to pass when Moses held up his hand 26:12.980 --> 26:14.240 that Israel prevailed. 26:14.680 --> 26:16.040 And when he had let down his hand, 26:16.520 --> 26:17.660 Amalek prevailed and so forth. 26:17.720 --> 26:18.420 And we know the story. 26:18.900 --> 26:21.300 You have Amalek coming up against Israel 26:21.300 --> 26:22.940 to fight against them, to hinder them. 26:23.360 --> 26:25.520 And of course they get shellacked, they get whooped, 26:25.740 --> 26:28.500 but they're being violent towards Israel. 26:28.760 --> 26:29.760 Go to Obadiah, if you would. 26:29.880 --> 26:31.780 Obadiah chapter one, there's only one chapter. 26:33.780 --> 26:35.020 Obadiah, if you would. 26:36.980 --> 26:39.820 So Edom mistreats Israel, they threaten them. 26:40.300 --> 26:43.040 We see that Amalek is violent against Edom. 26:43.560 --> 26:46.220 They're seeking to hinder them and war against them. 26:46.600 --> 26:49.360 They're making war with the saints, right? 26:49.980 --> 26:53.220 And of course, as long as Moses' hands were up, 26:53.620 --> 26:57.260 they would be victorious over Edom and over Esau. 26:57.580 --> 27:00.480 When his hands went down, they would be defeated. 27:00.760 --> 27:02.280 But luckily at the end of the battle, 27:02.280 --> 27:03.600 they ended up destroying them. 27:03.840 --> 27:06.840 But look at Obadiah in verse number 10 here. 27:07.460 --> 27:09.060 It says, for thy violence. 27:09.860 --> 27:10.800 Now, let me just tell you, 27:12.080 --> 27:13.720 Obadiah is a chapter. 27:13.920 --> 27:17.300 It's a book all about the destruction of Edom, okay? 27:17.920 --> 27:19.940 It's just God's pronouncement of judgment 27:20.460 --> 27:21.860 upon the nation of Edom. 27:22.100 --> 27:24.540 And he says in verse 10, for thy violence 27:25.240 --> 27:28.560 against thy brother Jacob, shame shall cover thee 27:28.560 --> 27:31.340 and thou shall be cut off forever. 27:32.280 --> 27:34.680 So he's saying, you're a violent towards Jacob. 27:35.400 --> 27:36.500 You're a violent, you know, 27:36.640 --> 27:38.060 Amalek was violent towards them. 27:38.540 --> 27:40.500 You threatened them, you mistreated them. 27:40.860 --> 27:43.660 And for this reason, you're gonna be ashamed 27:44.120 --> 27:46.880 and you're gonna be cut off from this earth forever. 27:47.360 --> 27:48.980 Okay, you're not gonna be a nation anymore. 27:49.900 --> 27:52.780 And so this is a major pronounced judgment on them. 27:52.940 --> 27:53.880 It's a threat from God. 27:54.000 --> 27:55.100 And of course, he does do that. 27:55.480 --> 27:56.340 Look at verse 11. 27:56.480 --> 27:58.620 We see that Edom rejoiced. 27:58.940 --> 28:00.100 And of course, as we saw, 28:01.780 --> 28:02.820 betrayed Jacob. 28:03.080 --> 28:05.000 Verse 11 here says, in the day 28:05.000 --> 28:07.420 that thou stoodest on the other side, 28:07.920 --> 28:10.440 in the day that the strangers carried away captive, 28:10.680 --> 28:13.660 his forces and foreigners entered into his gates 28:13.660 --> 28:15.780 and cast lots upon Jerusalem, 28:16.200 --> 28:18.840 even thou wasst as one of them. 28:19.320 --> 28:21.540 So this is referring to the fact that when Israel 28:21.540 --> 28:23.220 and Judah went into Babylonian captivity, 28:23.520 --> 28:24.540 which is a judgment from God, 28:26.260 --> 28:27.700 Edom kind of rejoiced at that. 28:28.140 --> 28:32.140 And they aided that enemy in fighting against Edom. 28:32.360 --> 28:34.480 All right, fighting against Jacob, fighting against Israel. 28:35.240 --> 28:38.360 So in a time when their neighbor was in need, 28:38.460 --> 28:38.980 they didn't help them, 28:39.000 --> 28:41.220 they kind of kicked them when they were down, okay? 28:41.940 --> 28:43.360 And it specifically says here 28:43.820 --> 28:45.600 that they stood on the other side, 28:46.040 --> 28:48.300 they saw their brothers being taken captive, 28:48.840 --> 28:51.420 they saw them in anguish, 28:51.820 --> 28:54.020 being dismayed, being killed. 28:54.780 --> 28:56.600 He says carried away captive his forces, 28:56.600 --> 28:58.500 the foreigners entered into his gates, 28:58.920 --> 29:00.280 cast lots upon Jerusalem, 29:00.580 --> 29:02.060 even thou wasst as one of them. 29:02.140 --> 29:03.980 He's like, but you're like basically like one of them. 29:03.980 --> 29:05.040 You're like the Babylonians. 29:05.400 --> 29:06.620 You're like the Assyrians. 29:07.180 --> 29:10.340 You might as well just been an enemy from the start 29:10.340 --> 29:13.280 because you behaved just like them, okay? 29:14.240 --> 29:18.440 And the way I can relate this in modern terms 29:18.440 --> 29:21.680 is just like if I ever get jumped 29:21.680 --> 29:23.900 and you guys are there and you guys don't help me, 29:24.080 --> 29:26.240 you're like Edom, okay? 29:26.600 --> 29:29.880 If we're going soul in here or something 29:30.440 --> 29:35.740 and all of a sudden just a band of Jews, 29:37.940 --> 29:41.120 some Hasidic Jews, they just start jumping me or whatever 29:41.680 --> 29:43.500 and you're there and I look 29:43.500 --> 29:44.900 and I just see you hitting the corner 29:45.640 --> 29:50.460 or just watching me get jumped, you're a buster, okay? 29:50.940 --> 29:52.380 You're Edom and you're a buster 29:52.970 --> 29:55.360 and I'm gonna whoop you after they're done whooping me. 29:57.780 --> 30:02.360 Because I rather have you just jump in and get with me. 30:04.880 --> 30:06.780 You're like, well, I can't fight, I know, 30:07.520 --> 30:10.260 but I rather just have you come in and take a couple licks 30:11.220 --> 30:14.060 off of the ones that I'm getting, right? 30:14.520 --> 30:15.540 It's the least you could do 30:16.000 --> 30:16.880 and make no mistake about it. 30:16.900 --> 30:18.760 If you're getting jumped, I'm jumping in, okay? 30:18.840 --> 30:21.260 And I'm not stepping down because I'm not a brawler, 30:21.360 --> 30:22.700 okay, it's just me defending a brother. 30:23.320 --> 30:25.600 But if you're getting jumped by a bunch of people, 30:26.060 --> 30:28.400 I'm not just gonna stand there and watch you get jumped. 30:28.940 --> 30:31.780 I'm throwing hands, I'm throwing knees and bows 30:31.780 --> 30:33.400 and you know what, if I get knocked out, 30:33.500 --> 30:35.200 at least you know I tried my best 30:35.600 --> 30:38.580 to deliver you from your enemies. 30:39.200 --> 30:40.440 Now if you're sitting there thinking like, 30:40.560 --> 30:41.700 oh, I don't know if I can do that. 30:41.860 --> 30:45.620 Yeah, yeah, okay, Edom, you know, just unwilling, 30:45.780 --> 30:48.860 just seeing people just take advantage of your friends, 30:48.980 --> 30:50.120 take advantage of your neighbors 30:50.120 --> 30:52.860 and you don't do anything about it, you're a coward. 30:53.500 --> 30:55.500 But Edom is just even worse 30:55.500 --> 30:57.540 because the reason they didn't help 30:57.540 --> 30:58.980 is because they hated Israel. 30:59.900 --> 31:01.780 They hated Jacob, okay? 31:03.280 --> 31:05.660 They wanted them to be destroyed. 31:06.140 --> 31:06.800 Verse 12 says, 31:18.760 --> 31:21.960 So on top of the fact that they didn't help them, 31:22.340 --> 31:23.160 they rejoiced. 31:23.340 --> 31:23.880 You know what they were doing? 31:24.060 --> 31:25.620 They were just like recording the beating. 31:27.160 --> 31:29.780 They're just like, dude, you got knocked out. 31:31.440 --> 31:33.620 Yeah, world stars, if that's even a thing anymore. 31:34.580 --> 31:36.420 They're looking to make content out of you. 31:37.060 --> 31:40.360 They're hoping to go viral because of your whooping, right? 31:40.740 --> 31:43.020 They're rejoicing like, ah, you got knocked out. 31:44.620 --> 31:45.440 It's horrific. 31:46.900 --> 31:49.220 So Edom is like standing there watching them 31:49.220 --> 31:50.340 and just think about this, 31:50.340 --> 31:52.860 you have all these people being taken captive, right? 31:53.420 --> 31:55.140 You have the dad being taken captive. 31:55.340 --> 31:56.760 His family was slain. 31:57.380 --> 32:00.120 He has a yoke of bondage upon him. 32:00.140 --> 32:01.240 He's being taken into captivity 32:01.720 --> 32:03.180 and then you look and you see Edom 32:03.180 --> 32:07.280 and they're just laughing at you, just mocking you, right? 32:08.380 --> 32:11.240 Mocking and ridiculing you 32:11.240 --> 32:13.460 and just rejoicing over the fact 32:13.460 --> 32:15.720 that you are being destroyed for no good reason 32:15.720 --> 32:18.400 just because they just hate you, okay? 32:19.680 --> 32:20.420 It's evil. 32:22.720 --> 32:24.560 It says rejoiced over the children of Judah 32:24.560 --> 32:25.800 in the day of their destruction, 32:25.960 --> 32:27.960 neither should his style have spoken proudly 32:28.420 --> 32:30.500 in the day of distress. 32:30.780 --> 32:31.320 What is proudly? 32:31.740 --> 32:32.600 Yeah, that's what he gets. 32:32.780 --> 32:34.780 That's why we don't, that's why nothing happened to us. 32:35.420 --> 32:36.720 Nothing happened to me. 32:37.180 --> 32:38.040 That's what they get. 32:38.180 --> 32:39.100 That's what they deserve. 32:39.360 --> 32:41.560 That's someone who's speaking proudly, right? 32:42.160 --> 32:43.260 They're presumptuous, 32:43.900 --> 32:46.180 thinking that somehow they're just righteous people 32:46.180 --> 32:46.820 when they're really not. 32:47.540 --> 32:48.160 He says, 32:48.380 --> 32:50.580 thou should not have entered into the gate of my people 32:50.580 --> 32:52.020 in the day of their calamity, 32:52.380 --> 32:54.540 yea, thou should not have looked on their affliction 32:54.540 --> 32:56.020 in the day of their calamity, 32:56.040 --> 32:58.580 nor have laid hands on their substance 32:59.180 --> 33:00.280 in the day of their calamity. 33:00.400 --> 33:01.660 So man, this is, it gets worse. 33:02.960 --> 33:04.560 So they're watching them be destroyed. 33:04.780 --> 33:05.960 They're watching them get killed. 33:06.180 --> 33:07.920 They're watching them being taken into captivity. 33:08.620 --> 33:10.560 One, that's bad and they're not helping them. 33:10.820 --> 33:13.200 Number two, they're rejoicing in it 33:13.200 --> 33:14.340 and then once they're taken, 33:14.720 --> 33:15.940 they go into their neighbor's house 33:16.440 --> 33:17.360 and they take their Xbox. 33:19.200 --> 33:20.620 They start, they're taking their possessions. 33:21.460 --> 33:22.220 They're taking and he's like, 33:22.240 --> 33:25.340 oh man, finally I get to have this guy's stuff 33:25.340 --> 33:26.540 and they're just robbing them. 33:26.640 --> 33:29.180 They're spoiling them, taking their riches, 33:29.680 --> 33:30.640 taking their stuff. 33:31.280 --> 33:33.620 I mean, eat them as super evil and wicked. 33:34.480 --> 33:35.500 It's godless, right? 33:36.060 --> 33:37.780 Verse 14, neither shouldest thou have stood 33:37.780 --> 33:40.800 in the cross way to cut off those of his, 33:41.060 --> 33:42.300 of his that did escape. 33:43.000 --> 33:45.300 Neither shouldest thou have delivered up those of his 33:45.700 --> 33:47.900 that did remain in the day of distress. 33:49.000 --> 33:49.780 Oh man. 33:50.320 --> 33:50.940 So what does that mean? 33:51.780 --> 33:54.080 It means that after they were taken captive, 33:55.300 --> 33:59.240 destroyed, taken captive, one of the captives escaped 34:00.760 --> 34:04.420 and as he's escaping, running for dear life. 34:04.740 --> 34:05.200 You know what he's doing? 34:05.360 --> 34:06.700 He's just like, he's right there. 34:08.660 --> 34:11.420 It's like some of you when you played hide and go seek 34:11.860 --> 34:14.400 and you were caught and you just ratted on your friend 34:14.400 --> 34:16.020 who was hiding somewhere else. 34:16.280 --> 34:18.760 Hey, the goddess bro, come out there, 34:18.900 --> 34:20.840 you're just ratting on your friend or something like that. 34:22.260 --> 34:23.160 So what are they doing? 34:23.660 --> 34:27.660 They're enabling evil doers. 34:28.400 --> 34:31.000 They're yoking up with the wicked people 34:31.000 --> 34:32.320 against the people of God. 34:33.600 --> 34:37.040 Now look folks, hating on the people of God, 34:37.360 --> 34:39.960 okay, super evil, rejoicing when they fall, 34:40.460 --> 34:43.040 super evil, spoiling their house, super evil 34:43.040 --> 34:45.580 but then assisting the wicked 34:45.580 --> 34:47.380 and the reprobates of this world 34:47.920 --> 34:49.380 to fight against the people of God? 34:50.340 --> 34:50.700 Godless. 34:54.440 --> 34:56.740 He cut off those of his that did escape. 34:57.140 --> 34:58.480 I mean, just imagine that. 34:58.980 --> 35:01.280 A guy gets out and he's going back to Judah 35:01.720 --> 35:04.880 and he sees an Edomite, which by the way, 35:04.900 --> 35:06.100 they're not white people, okay? 35:06.440 --> 35:08.240 Just want to, he sees an Edomite 35:08.240 --> 35:09.800 and he's like, oh man, I need your help. 35:09.880 --> 35:10.640 He's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 35:10.860 --> 35:12.460 I got you, come on, come on in, come on in. 35:12.460 --> 35:14.820 He brings him in, calls the authorities, 35:14.900 --> 35:17.380 he's like, right here, the betrayal 35:19.060 --> 35:22.020 from his neighbor to do such a thing, right? 35:23.240 --> 35:25.700 He says, for the day of the Lord is near upon all the heathen 35:25.700 --> 35:28.780 as thou has done, it shall be done unto thee. 35:29.720 --> 35:34.540 Thy reward shall return upon thine own head. 35:34.940 --> 35:37.680 So he's saying, okay, you did all these things 35:37.680 --> 35:40.060 but God hasn't forgotten, I'm going to destroy you 35:40.460 --> 35:41.640 and I'm going to wipe you out 35:41.640 --> 35:43.520 because you're such a wicked people, 35:43.980 --> 35:45.640 you're godless, you're horrible neighbors, 35:46.120 --> 35:48.760 you're rejoiced, you're betrayed, you're stole from them, 35:49.140 --> 35:50.820 you join hands with wicked people. 35:51.440 --> 35:53.340 And look, you know, on this point 35:53.340 --> 35:55.460 of just joining the wicked against the people of God, 35:56.120 --> 35:58.860 you know, this is possible, like Christians do this. 35:59.960 --> 36:03.180 I think even like safe Christians do this as well, okay? 36:03.940 --> 36:05.340 You know, you have people in the Bible 36:05.340 --> 36:06.300 who did stuff like this 36:06.900 --> 36:09.580 and it's just extremely evil, it's extremely wicked. 36:10.180 --> 36:12.900 And look, if you don't agree with someone, you know, 36:13.000 --> 36:15.040 like for example, there's a lot of old IFP preachers 36:15.040 --> 36:17.900 that I don't necessarily approve of, right? 36:19.120 --> 36:21.940 Don't like their doctrine, think they're arrogant. 36:22.600 --> 36:23.500 But you know what? 36:23.580 --> 36:26.500 If some fag starts attacking an old IFP pastor 36:27.020 --> 36:29.180 and he's in need, even though we disagree 36:29.180 --> 36:30.780 on a lot of things, if he's a safe man, 36:31.200 --> 36:32.060 I'll defend that man. 36:33.620 --> 36:36.820 Or, better yet, if he's just a super evil person, 36:37.020 --> 36:38.100 not evil, but he's just like, 36:38.380 --> 36:40.340 he's just really bad doctrinally or something 36:40.980 --> 36:42.700 or he's criticized me in times past, 36:43.140 --> 36:45.380 I'm not gonna join the homo against him. 36:46.720 --> 36:49.360 That's the least you can do, right? 36:50.100 --> 36:51.400 You don't join the reprobates 36:51.400 --> 36:54.680 to fight against the people of God, okay? 36:55.100 --> 36:57.460 You don't become unequally yoked together 36:57.460 --> 36:58.540 with unbelievers. 36:59.460 --> 37:01.320 What concord has Christ with Belial? 37:02.320 --> 37:04.580 What part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 37:06.080 --> 37:07.740 So you're like, oh man, you know, 37:07.980 --> 37:09.200 there's a guy I don't get along with, 37:09.220 --> 37:10.640 so I'm just gonna join their enemies 37:10.640 --> 37:14.960 because the enemy of my enemy is my friend, wrong, wrong. 37:15.260 --> 37:16.560 And this is one of the reasons why 37:17.080 --> 37:18.480 I don't sympathize with Muslims. 37:19.800 --> 37:21.220 You know, I'm not a big fan of Jews, 37:21.340 --> 37:22.080 not sure if you know that. 37:22.740 --> 37:23.900 You know, I'm not a big fan of Jews, 37:23.920 --> 37:24.560 they're super wicked. 37:25.000 --> 37:26.100 You know, the synagogue of Satan, 37:26.100 --> 37:29.680 children of the devil, you know all the labels, okay? 37:30.920 --> 37:33.380 But, and you know what, a lot of the content's gone out 37:33.380 --> 37:34.720 and so you have these Muslims who think, 37:34.820 --> 37:37.260 oh, whatever, he's on our side. 37:37.360 --> 37:39.900 No, I'm not, you're gonna split hell wide open too. 37:41.560 --> 37:43.500 You're gonna split hell wide open 37:44.020 --> 37:46.500 and you know what, I've had good conversations 37:46.500 --> 37:48.540 with Muslims, they try to be, 37:48.680 --> 37:49.940 they try to tread lightly, 37:50.340 --> 37:51.520 whereas Zionists are just like, 37:51.600 --> 37:53.940 they're just insufferable, I'll just be honest with you. 37:54.820 --> 37:56.120 Zionists are really insufferable. 37:56.840 --> 37:59.420 So yeah, if I had to choose who to talk to, 37:59.920 --> 38:01.560 I would want to talk to the Muslim, probably, 38:02.180 --> 38:05.520 because Zionists are extremely prideful, arrogant, 38:06.120 --> 38:08.820 they're insufferable, and in a lot of ways 38:08.820 --> 38:11.580 they're just kind of dumb, okay? 38:11.660 --> 38:14.320 They're just delusional, that's just a fact. 38:15.220 --> 38:17.000 And so you know, yeah, sometimes it's easier 38:17.000 --> 38:18.160 to have a conversation with the Muslim, 38:18.540 --> 38:20.400 but you know, sometimes they may stake that 38:20.400 --> 38:22.420 for me just approving of their godlessness. 38:23.420 --> 38:25.560 And once you start calling out some of the things 38:25.560 --> 38:27.060 that they believe, then the mass comes off. 38:28.060 --> 38:30.500 And they want to jihad you like right through the screen. 38:32.000 --> 38:33.840 They want to just cut your head off. 38:35.020 --> 38:36.500 You know, and Islam is a wicked religion, 38:36.860 --> 38:38.580 and it's just like, and I've had Christians 38:38.580 --> 38:41.180 literally contact me and say, hey, 38:41.660 --> 38:42.860 you know, I know it's a false religion, 38:42.900 --> 38:44.780 but we really do need to join forces 38:44.780 --> 38:46.260 with the Muslims to fight against Jews. 38:46.420 --> 38:47.720 It's like, what the heck? 38:48.560 --> 38:49.920 What are you talking about? 38:51.100 --> 38:57.820 Join forces with Goders who worship a false god, 38:58.680 --> 39:02.520 who if they could, would absolutely chop your head off 39:02.520 --> 39:03.700 once they outnumber you. 39:04.660 --> 39:06.560 And you're like, yeah, but they respect Jesus. 39:07.240 --> 39:08.520 You know, saying that he's a prophet 39:08.520 --> 39:09.720 isn't a respectable thing. 39:10.460 --> 39:13.040 It would be a respectable thing if you understood 39:13.040 --> 39:15.820 and already believed that he was God, right? 39:15.940 --> 39:17.120 Because we can say that he's a prophet, 39:17.460 --> 39:18.500 because he preached like a prophet. 39:18.500 --> 39:20.740 But that's because we already have 39:20.740 --> 39:23.660 the foundational belief that he's God, okay? 39:24.360 --> 39:26.120 And you know, they give them, 39:26.540 --> 39:27.880 they don't believe that he's God, 39:27.960 --> 39:29.580 so they disparage him, and he's like, 39:29.620 --> 39:30.920 well, that's not bad. 39:31.320 --> 39:31.860 Yes, it is. 39:32.860 --> 39:34.320 Yes, it absolutely is. 39:34.960 --> 39:36.480 And it's even more disrespectful 39:36.480 --> 39:38.520 to claim that he is the Christ, 39:38.740 --> 39:39.820 but deny that he is God. 39:41.200 --> 39:43.500 So it's just like, your hell's going to be even hotter. 39:44.800 --> 39:47.980 So I'm not interested in joining the Babylonians. 39:47.980 --> 39:50.380 I'm not interested in joining the Assyrians. 39:50.580 --> 39:53.080 I'm not interested in joining Muslims to fight against Jews. 39:53.160 --> 39:54.780 I don't need Muslim help to fight against Jews. 39:55.200 --> 39:58.000 I do it, find them all by myself, okay? 39:58.540 --> 40:01.080 Christians do find all by themselves fighting against Jews. 40:01.420 --> 40:04.140 We don't need Godars to help us and aid us 40:04.140 --> 40:08.580 in our spiritual war against Jews, understand? 40:10.440 --> 40:14.600 And again, a lot of these replacement theology people 40:15.340 --> 40:16.580 within mainstream Christians, 40:17.120 --> 40:18.260 you know, they're dumb, 40:18.980 --> 40:21.100 because they think that that's like a noble thing 40:21.100 --> 40:26.860 to like invite Muslims into their battle against Jews, 40:27.000 --> 40:28.400 and it's just the worst idea ever, 40:28.960 --> 40:30.580 because Muslims just use Christians. 40:31.460 --> 40:34.020 They're just using them to defeat Jews, 40:34.300 --> 40:36.780 and then they turn on you after that, okay? 40:37.240 --> 40:39.740 And look, Jews and Muslims are basically 40:39.740 --> 40:43.260 like the same thing in a lot of ways, okay? 40:43.720 --> 40:45.600 Because both believe in a Christ, 40:46.340 --> 40:50.340 but both deny that Jesus is God, okay? 40:51.000 --> 40:53.460 And so, you know, Muslims are all gonna be like, 40:53.540 --> 40:55.100 yeah, they're so blasphemous and all these things, 40:55.160 --> 40:56.900 like, well, you share the same beliefs that they do, 40:57.240 --> 40:58.360 they don't believe that Jesus is God, 40:58.920 --> 40:59.960 and you don't believe that either. 41:00.540 --> 41:02.500 You believe that Christ is just a man. 41:03.640 --> 41:05.800 You believe Jesus is just a man. 41:06.740 --> 41:08.280 So you have a lot, you know, 41:08.580 --> 41:11.740 you're both of you are just these pagans, 41:12.500 --> 41:14.680 according to biblical standards, 41:15.220 --> 41:17.960 you're heathen, you're godless, you're worshiping devils, 41:18.200 --> 41:20.700 and so if you don't get saved, you will go to hell. 41:21.100 --> 41:22.660 And then, you know, as soon as you actually give 41:22.660 --> 41:23.800 the right gospel to them, 41:24.100 --> 41:25.660 as soon as you tell them that Jesus is God, 41:25.900 --> 41:27.340 then they start mocking that. 41:27.920 --> 41:29.440 Then their true colors come out. 41:30.140 --> 41:31.180 How could God die? 41:33.120 --> 41:34.640 It's like the stupidest question ever. 41:35.480 --> 41:37.620 You know, then their real colors come out. 41:38.360 --> 41:40.360 Oh, yeah, yeah, God died. 41:40.360 --> 41:42.460 Yeah, keep saying that over and over again, 41:42.460 --> 41:43.240 until you die, 41:43.440 --> 41:45.020 and you let me know how that goes for you in hell. 41:47.880 --> 41:49.620 You know, and so, 41:51.000 --> 41:53.300 Edom is super evil, he's super wicked, 41:53.380 --> 41:56.800 because he's joining forces with the enemies of God 41:56.800 --> 41:58.260 to fight against God's people. 41:58.820 --> 41:59.920 It should never be a thing, 42:00.020 --> 42:01.220 but we see that taking place here. 42:01.460 --> 42:02.600 And so it's not surprising 42:02.600 --> 42:04.000 why God ended up destroying them. 42:04.200 --> 42:07.700 Go a chapter back, a book back to Amos, if you would. 42:08.700 --> 42:10.300 Go to Amos chapter one, 42:17.300 --> 42:18.600 and look at verse 11, it says, 42:18.820 --> 42:21.720 Thus saith the Lord for three transgressions of Edom, 42:22.260 --> 42:26.360 and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof. 42:26.920 --> 42:30.120 Because he did pursue his brother with the sword, 42:30.640 --> 42:32.260 and did cast off all pity, 42:32.860 --> 42:35.380 and his anger did tear perpetually, 42:35.700 --> 42:38.380 and he kept his wrath for ever. 42:38.840 --> 42:42.980 So we see Edom here is just antagonistic towards Israel, 42:42.980 --> 42:45.340 towards the people of God, he has no pity for them. 42:46.280 --> 42:48.680 And so, you know, stay away from Christians 42:49.220 --> 42:52.440 who just wanna attack other Christians, okay? 42:52.880 --> 42:53.940 Knowing that they are saved. 42:55.640 --> 42:57.740 And I don't know, you know, for me it's like, 42:58.400 --> 42:59.460 if you have a Christian constantly 42:59.460 --> 43:00.440 attacking another Christian, 43:00.540 --> 43:01.580 constantly attacking another Christian, 43:01.720 --> 43:02.780 it's like, all right, this guy might have beef 43:02.780 --> 43:04.160 or whatever with this person. 43:04.360 --> 43:05.780 But if it's just like a perpetual thing, 43:05.860 --> 43:06.640 that makes me wonder like, 43:07.040 --> 43:08.540 is this guy even saved or not? 43:09.420 --> 43:12.120 Because he's kinda acting like the Babylonians. 43:12.740 --> 43:15.460 He's kinda acting like the Assyrians, right? 43:16.160 --> 43:17.020 Because let's just be honest, 43:17.420 --> 43:20.540 we're not always gonna like everyone around us, right? 43:20.720 --> 43:22.460 We're not gonna like every single pastor, 43:23.040 --> 43:23.940 every single church, 43:24.340 --> 43:25.740 even if they believe in the right gospel. 43:26.240 --> 43:29.400 But you know what, we don't spend our entire ministry 43:29.940 --> 43:32.400 just trying to tear them down and destroy them, 43:32.620 --> 43:35.300 because it's just such a wicked attitude to have. 43:35.660 --> 43:37.500 And we know that that's not pleasing to God. 43:38.980 --> 43:40.300 You're like, yeah, but what if God 43:40.300 --> 43:41.600 hasn't punished them for that? 43:43.280 --> 43:44.180 Yeah, what if? 43:46.140 --> 43:48.140 Then are you bastards and no sons? 43:48.900 --> 43:50.900 I don't know, you just never know. 43:51.800 --> 43:53.800 You know, the point being here is that 43:53.800 --> 43:56.480 you don't wanna be characterized by attacking one person. 43:56.920 --> 43:59.480 And if you have some sort of dislike 43:59.480 --> 44:01.320 for a pastor or a church, you know, 44:01.520 --> 44:02.920 just move on with your life. 44:04.000 --> 44:06.160 Why just constantly harp on that 44:06.580 --> 44:07.780 for the rest of your ministry? 44:08.500 --> 44:10.980 It might be that you're just an extremely wicked person. 44:13.220 --> 44:14.760 And you know what happens to people like that? 44:15.120 --> 44:16.020 It's just what happens to eat them. 44:16.880 --> 44:17.940 I like that God says, you know, 44:18.280 --> 44:20.820 for three transgressions of eat them and for four. 44:22.120 --> 44:24.180 So it's just like, there's three reasons I'm gonna get up, 44:24.240 --> 44:25.300 but really there's four reasons 44:25.300 --> 44:26.680 I'm gonna just completely destroy them. 44:27.320 --> 44:28.620 You know, go back to Obadiah. 44:29.220 --> 44:33.620 Look at chapter one, or excuse me, verse three. 44:34.740 --> 44:36.280 It says, the pride of thine heart 44:36.280 --> 44:39.380 hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest 44:39.380 --> 44:41.680 in the cleft of the rock whose habitation is high, 44:42.100 --> 44:44.580 that saith in his heart, who shall bring me down 44:44.580 --> 44:48.920 to the ground, though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, 44:49.460 --> 44:52.560 thou and thou, excuse me, and though thou set thy nest 44:52.560 --> 44:55.340 among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, 44:55.600 --> 44:57.800 saith the Lord, if these came to thee, 44:57.880 --> 45:00.240 if robbers by night, how art thou cut off? 45:00.520 --> 45:02.960 Would they not have stolen till they have had enough? 45:03.300 --> 45:05.080 If the great gatherers came to thee, 45:05.080 --> 45:07.140 would they not leave some grapes? 45:08.160 --> 45:10.160 How are the things that he saw searched out? 45:10.440 --> 45:12.140 How are his hidden things sought up? 45:12.180 --> 45:12.820 So what does God say? 45:13.080 --> 45:15.680 You're so prideful and arrogant that when I judge you, 45:16.400 --> 45:18.240 you know, you're gonna be like, all right, that's enough, 45:18.300 --> 45:19.180 and it's not gonna be enough. 45:20.120 --> 45:21.560 This is what he says, like, when robbers come, 45:21.920 --> 45:23.400 they take until their hearts full. 45:24.400 --> 45:25.760 God's saying, I'm gonna destroy you 45:25.760 --> 45:26.900 and then I'm gonna keep destroying you. 45:27.380 --> 45:28.820 And when you feel like I've taken enough, 45:28.940 --> 45:29.860 when you feel like I've done enough, 45:29.940 --> 45:31.040 when you feel like you've been punished enough, 45:31.260 --> 45:32.460 God's like, I'm gonna do it even more. 45:34.260 --> 45:38.380 I mean, sounds like God really just kinda hates Edom, right? 45:39.520 --> 45:40.500 Leading me through my next one, 45:40.560 --> 45:44.260 go to Malachi if you would, Malachi. 45:45.920 --> 45:47.480 Like, I thought we were in Genesis 36. 45:47.580 --> 45:49.480 Well, Genesis 36 is about Edom and Esau. 45:50.200 --> 45:53.080 And I'm explaining to you because Genesis 36 45:53.080 --> 45:55.540 is gonna be the last time that we hear about Esau, 45:55.620 --> 45:56.220 the individual. 45:56.860 --> 45:58.420 Well, here's name mentioned 45:58.900 --> 46:01.380 in the context of the nation of Edom, though. 46:01.380 --> 46:03.580 So it's not the last time you hear about Edom per se, 46:03.940 --> 46:05.300 but as far as Esau's concerned, 46:05.500 --> 46:07.400 he's just kind of, he, you know, 46:07.520 --> 46:09.560 and credits for him, you know what I mean? 46:09.700 --> 46:10.400 He's out of the story. 46:11.120 --> 46:13.340 But Edom as a nation does play a significant role 46:13.340 --> 46:14.940 throughout Israel's history. 46:15.240 --> 46:18.160 Look at Malachi chapter one in verse number four. 46:20.140 --> 46:21.200 Actually, let's read in verse one. 46:21.300 --> 46:22.740 It says, the burden of the word of the Lord 46:22.740 --> 46:24.660 to Israel by Malachi. 46:24.980 --> 46:26.540 I have loved you say it the Lord, 46:27.040 --> 46:29.980 yet you say wherein hast thou loved us 46:29.980 --> 46:32.500 was not Esau Jacob's brother, sayeth the Lord, 46:32.880 --> 46:36.060 yet I love Jacob and I hated Esau 46:36.760 --> 46:39.640 and laid his mountains and his heritage waste 46:39.980 --> 46:42.300 for the dragons of the wilderness. 46:42.640 --> 46:44.680 Whereas Edom sayeth we are impoverished 46:44.680 --> 46:47.020 but we will return and build the desolate places. 46:47.360 --> 46:48.500 Thus sayeth the Lord of hosts, 46:48.800 --> 46:50.720 they shall build but I will throw down 46:51.240 --> 46:53.720 and they shall call them the borders of wickedness 46:53.720 --> 46:55.500 and the people against whom the Lord 46:55.500 --> 46:56.860 hath indignation forever. 46:57.020 --> 46:58.460 So this is strong words here. 46:58.460 --> 47:00.160 These are some strong words to say, 47:00.220 --> 47:03.360 look I love Jacob but I hated Esau. 47:03.680 --> 47:04.900 How do we know that he hated Esau? 47:05.080 --> 47:06.080 Cause he just destroyed them. 47:06.640 --> 47:07.380 Just wiped him out. 47:08.740 --> 47:10.000 How do we know that God hates people? 47:10.260 --> 47:11.200 Because hell exists. 47:13.100 --> 47:13.460 Right? 47:14.140 --> 47:15.700 Oh man, I don't know if God hates people. 47:15.840 --> 47:16.360 Do you believe in hell? 47:18.200 --> 47:19.300 You notice people in hell, right? 47:20.140 --> 47:22.740 Yeah, but that's more like a separation from God. 47:23.520 --> 47:23.900 No it's not. 47:25.800 --> 47:26.160 Nope. 47:26.860 --> 47:28.840 The people who are currently in hell right now 47:28.840 --> 47:29.900 are hated of the Lord. 47:30.920 --> 47:33.180 Because that's what you do to people that you hate. 47:33.580 --> 47:35.400 You allow them to burn forever. 47:36.280 --> 47:39.580 If you don't think that that's a proper description 47:39.580 --> 47:41.780 of hatred, then I don't know what kind of hatred 47:41.780 --> 47:42.440 you believe in. 47:43.080 --> 47:44.500 Cause the hatred according to the, 47:44.760 --> 47:47.260 according to God is that God hates you 47:47.260 --> 47:48.900 and then he does something bad to you. 47:50.060 --> 47:50.680 You know? 47:51.180 --> 47:53.860 And as noted with Edom, he's like Esau have I hated. 47:54.880 --> 47:58.160 He says, and laid his mountains and his heritage 47:58.160 --> 47:59.560 waste for the dragons of the wilderness. 47:59.740 --> 48:00.640 He's like I hate you so much. 48:00.660 --> 48:02.680 I'm just gonna just destroy you like an atom bomb. 48:03.340 --> 48:04.400 Just lay you waste. 48:04.780 --> 48:07.060 And it's gonna be so desolate. 48:07.480 --> 48:10.340 Your land is gonna be so destroyed that the dragons, 48:10.720 --> 48:12.960 the animals, the reptiles are just gonna inhabit 48:12.960 --> 48:14.080 everything that you own there. 48:14.380 --> 48:15.760 Cause I hate you that much. 48:16.140 --> 48:16.700 Pretty powerful. 48:17.640 --> 48:19.300 Now with that in mind, go to Romans chapter nine. 48:21.260 --> 48:22.340 Romans chapter nine. 48:24.400 --> 48:25.620 No, it's Old Testament. 48:26.980 --> 48:28.320 Yeah, I hate people. 48:28.600 --> 48:29.240 That's Old Testament. 48:29.940 --> 48:31.480 God hates people in the New Testament too. 48:33.360 --> 48:34.360 In fact, this is quoted. 48:34.960 --> 48:37.120 Malachi chapter one is quoted in Romans chapter nine. 48:38.360 --> 48:41.820 Romans can be found in the New Testament. 48:42.860 --> 48:45.760 Now look at Romans nine and let's first read verse six. 48:46.680 --> 48:49.500 Not as though the word of God has taken none effect. 48:49.940 --> 48:53.480 For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel. 48:53.480 --> 48:55.100 Neither because they are of the seed of Abraham 48:55.100 --> 48:55.840 or they are all children, 48:56.000 --> 48:57.980 but in Isaac's shall thy seed be called. 48:58.100 --> 49:01.300 So this chapter initially begins with explaining the fact 49:01.300 --> 49:04.420 that within the physical nation of Israel, 49:04.800 --> 49:08.080 not everyone was classified as a true Israel in God's eyes. 49:08.580 --> 49:09.740 So within the physical nation, 49:09.880 --> 49:13.200 you had a remnant, a small group of people 49:13.200 --> 49:14.340 who believed on the Lord. 49:14.700 --> 49:16.720 And that is what the Bible classifies 49:16.720 --> 49:18.220 as the Israel of God. 49:18.820 --> 49:20.580 So when he says they are not all of Israel, 49:20.620 --> 49:21.280 which are of Israel. 49:21.280 --> 49:24.120 He's saying, I know they all call themselves Israel, 49:24.480 --> 49:25.980 but there's only those who believe 49:25.980 --> 49:26.980 in the Lord are real Israel. 49:27.360 --> 49:28.480 Here's another way of saying it. 49:28.660 --> 49:29.860 You know, mainstream Christianity. 49:30.860 --> 49:32.540 A lot of people call themselves Christians, right? 49:33.300 --> 49:35.100 But only those who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ 49:35.100 --> 49:36.100 are true Christians though. 49:36.900 --> 49:39.160 So you have people that believe in works, 49:40.280 --> 49:43.300 baptismal regeneration, you have to repent of your sins, 49:43.740 --> 49:46.060 all this heresy and they call themselves Christians. 49:47.020 --> 49:49.360 However, the real Christians are those 49:49.360 --> 49:50.280 who believe in the right salvation. 49:51.460 --> 49:53.140 That's a good comparison there. 49:53.780 --> 49:54.880 So within the physical nation, 49:55.180 --> 49:56.340 you have this nation called Israel, 49:56.480 --> 49:59.620 but the real Israel are those who believe on the Lord. 50:00.300 --> 50:01.940 Okay, now let's keep reading here. 50:02.060 --> 50:03.480 It says in verse eight, that is, 50:03.740 --> 50:05.220 they which are the children of the flesh, 50:05.960 --> 50:07.240 these are not the children of God, 50:07.700 --> 50:08.940 but the children of the promise 50:08.940 --> 50:10.320 are counted for the seed. 50:10.580 --> 50:12.200 What does it mean by children of the flesh? 50:12.620 --> 50:15.160 He means those who are physically Israel, 50:15.160 --> 50:18.360 physical Israelites, Jews according to the flesh, 50:18.820 --> 50:20.360 he's like, they're not the children of God. 50:20.700 --> 50:21.320 And let me just tell you, 50:21.540 --> 50:23.180 children of God, people of God, 50:23.420 --> 50:26.000 chosen of God, all used interchangeably, okay? 50:27.900 --> 50:28.840 He says in verse nine, 50:29.200 --> 50:30.300 for this is the word of promise, 50:30.560 --> 50:33.540 at this time will I come and Sarah shall have a son, 50:33.880 --> 50:37.140 and not only this, but when Rebecca also had conceived 50:37.140 --> 50:39.140 by one, even by her father Isaac, 50:39.660 --> 50:41.980 for the children being not yet born, 50:42.300 --> 50:44.320 neither having done any good or evil, 50:44.620 --> 50:46.520 that the purpose of God according to the election 50:46.520 --> 50:49.740 might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth. 50:49.760 --> 50:50.360 So let's stop there. 50:50.760 --> 50:52.940 So he's saying here, he's making this distinction, 50:53.420 --> 50:55.340 he's using these Old Testament figures 50:55.340 --> 50:57.880 to picture Israel and Israel. 50:59.180 --> 51:02.080 Israel that's unsaved, Israel that is saved. 51:02.580 --> 51:05.360 Israel according to the flesh, Israel of God. 51:06.280 --> 51:07.440 He's using various people to do it, 51:07.440 --> 51:09.320 and he does this throughout the New Testament. 51:09.400 --> 51:10.860 We see this in Galatians chapter four, right? 51:11.440 --> 51:12.300 But he's doing that here. 51:13.020 --> 51:15.540 It says in verse 12, it was said unto her, 51:15.540 --> 51:19.080 the elder shall serve the younger. 51:19.200 --> 51:23.380 Verse 13, as it is written, Jacob have I loved, 51:24.000 --> 51:26.000 but Esau have I hated. 51:26.800 --> 51:29.540 Now that's from Malachi chapter one, right? 51:30.920 --> 51:34.380 Malachi chapter one deals specifically with the nation, 51:34.600 --> 51:37.900 the physical nation of Edom that was destroyed 51:38.650 --> 51:42.180 because of their persecution of Israel. 51:42.880 --> 51:43.200 You understand? 51:44.080 --> 51:47.200 The New Testament now transitions that 51:47.200 --> 51:50.980 into the spiritual truth that God hates Esau, 51:51.300 --> 51:53.220 not necessarily Esau the individual, 51:53.780 --> 51:56.300 but he hates the spiritual Esau. 51:56.580 --> 51:59.020 And who's the spiritual Esau according to the New Testament, 51:59.200 --> 52:00.020 according to this context? 52:00.540 --> 52:03.960 Unsaved Jews, he hates them. 52:05.340 --> 52:07.920 And we're talking about unsaved Jews who, 52:08.680 --> 52:10.420 are we talking about just like anybody 52:10.420 --> 52:13.220 from the descendants of Esau's descendants 52:13.220 --> 52:13.840 that were wicked? 52:14.020 --> 52:17.160 No, we're talking about specifically like Amalek and Edom, right? 52:17.840 --> 52:19.580 Talk about those who actually persecuted 52:20.300 --> 52:23.140 the people of God, you know? 52:23.800 --> 52:25.300 And you know who God hates? 52:25.980 --> 52:27.080 You said, does God hate Jews? 52:27.660 --> 52:29.700 He hates a lot of them, for sure. 52:30.800 --> 52:33.480 Not because of their weird haircuts, 52:34.380 --> 52:38.420 the funny skull cap, because they're physically deformed 52:38.420 --> 52:40.060 because they're so inbred. 52:40.880 --> 52:42.860 Because they're just, you know, 52:43.320 --> 52:46.880 because they clip coins and they're involved with pornography, 52:47.420 --> 52:48.600 you know, not just because of that, 52:48.700 --> 52:52.360 but because of their persecution of the Son of God, 52:53.260 --> 52:55.480 because of their blasphemy against Jesus Christ. 52:57.580 --> 52:59.220 Verse 13 is not there on accident. 53:00.180 --> 53:02.420 Verse 13 is intentionally placed there, 53:03.020 --> 53:04.680 you know, is Paul being anti-Semitic 53:04.680 --> 53:05.580 or what's going on here? 53:06.240 --> 53:07.840 He's explaining, he's like, how can I explain? 53:08.680 --> 53:09.380 They're not all of Israel. 53:09.720 --> 53:12.160 Oh, Jacob have I love, but Esau have I hated? 53:12.780 --> 53:15.460 And everyone's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 53:15.760 --> 53:23.620 So Esau, the Jews are Esau, the unregenerated ones. 53:24.860 --> 53:26.420 And so the interesting thing here 53:26.420 --> 53:29.760 is that Jacob represents Israel, Jacob is Israel. 53:30.200 --> 53:32.720 Israel's the physical nation, but now it's flipped 53:33.520 --> 53:37.620 because now Gentile Jews and, excuse me, 53:37.860 --> 53:40.580 believing Jews and Gentiles now are Israel 53:41.120 --> 53:44.800 and the physical Jews are considered Esau. 53:45.520 --> 53:49.880 And when you compare the actions of Jews 53:49.880 --> 53:51.160 and their persecution of believers 53:51.160 --> 53:53.780 to what Edom did in the Old Testament, 53:54.140 --> 53:55.120 it's very similar, right? 53:56.620 --> 53:57.660 Didn't mean mistreat. 53:58.200 --> 54:01.360 Didn't Jews mistreat Christians, right? 54:02.040 --> 54:05.460 Weren't Jews violent against Christians 54:05.460 --> 54:06.460 in the New Testament? 54:06.760 --> 54:09.280 Just as Edom was violent against Israel, 54:09.520 --> 54:11.400 just as Edom mistreated Israel, 54:11.840 --> 54:15.700 they rejoiced and they betrayed them, 54:16.060 --> 54:19.320 they persecuted them, they beat them, 54:19.800 --> 54:22.200 they sought to kill them, and for what? 54:22.940 --> 54:23.920 For no reason at all. 54:24.980 --> 54:26.320 You know what Jesus said about the Jews 54:26.320 --> 54:27.260 that they hated me? 54:27.940 --> 54:28.680 Without a cause. 54:28.680 --> 54:30.520 There's no reason. 54:31.660 --> 54:33.800 It's like, why, hey, Jesus, he's coming to save you. 54:35.040 --> 54:37.040 And then he resurrects and it's just like, 54:37.180 --> 54:39.800 let's pay someone off, let's just pay someone off 54:39.800 --> 54:42.180 so that we'll just pay you guys off 54:42.180 --> 54:44.060 and then we'll just come up with a story 54:44.060 --> 54:46.040 that someone stole his body or something like that. 54:46.100 --> 54:46.860 It's just for no reason. 54:48.320 --> 54:50.180 Now you and I can't understand it because we're saved. 54:51.740 --> 54:54.200 We can't fathom how it is to hate someone 54:54.200 --> 54:57.060 without a cause, but there's people out there like that. 54:57.710 --> 54:59.400 You know what, Jews are one of them. 55:01.470 --> 55:06.200 And so we see here that the purpose of Edom 55:06.570 --> 55:10.280 in the Old Testament and why God allowed Edom 55:10.280 --> 55:11.880 to behave in such a wicked manner 55:12.610 --> 55:16.300 was to represent what physical Jews 55:16.300 --> 55:19.520 would do in the New Testament towards the spiritual Jacob, 55:19.820 --> 55:22.840 towards the spiritual Israel, which are believers. 55:23.340 --> 55:23.600 Understand? 55:23.600 --> 55:26.040 And this is a good text verse to show, 55:27.260 --> 55:28.960 God doesn't hate Jews. 55:29.180 --> 55:30.560 Yes, he does, he hates a lot of them. 55:32.180 --> 55:34.940 I wanna see the Zionist interpretation of verse 13. 55:35.520 --> 55:36.600 You think he just like put it there? 55:37.840 --> 55:39.840 He's just like, I'm out of content. 55:42.540 --> 55:44.040 I'm always courting the Old Testament. 55:44.220 --> 55:45.660 They just stole something in there from Malachi. 55:46.880 --> 55:48.840 Jacob, I love you, Saul, I hate it. 55:49.700 --> 55:50.480 Who's gonna notice? 55:51.500 --> 55:53.060 No one's gonna even catch it. 55:53.520 --> 55:54.700 It's their own purpose 55:56.320 --> 55:59.280 because he's using these Old Testament figures 55:59.960 --> 56:03.060 to essentially describe a New Testament truth 56:03.060 --> 56:05.100 of the persecution of Jews towards Christians. 56:05.900 --> 56:09.480 And so keep in mind, Esau, the man, good. 56:10.920 --> 56:13.700 His descendants, bad, okay? 56:14.640 --> 56:16.200 And here's the thing, you know, 56:17.520 --> 56:19.280 what did God do to eat them as a nation? 56:19.680 --> 56:24.180 Wipe them out, wipe them out, just destroy them. 56:25.180 --> 56:26.580 And you know what God's gonna do to Jews 56:26.580 --> 56:27.320 is gonna destroy them. 56:28.520 --> 56:30.780 I mean, obviously they've gotten persecuted 56:30.780 --> 56:34.580 over the last 1500 years, since 78 year or whatever, 56:35.200 --> 56:38.440 and to all nations, but the Bible specifically says 56:40.840 --> 56:44.040 that you will see Gentiles come 56:44.040 --> 56:47.980 from the south, from the east and west, 56:48.420 --> 56:50.900 and they're gonna sit with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob 56:50.900 --> 56:53.460 and the kingdom of God, and the children of the kingdom, 56:53.740 --> 56:56.300 referring to the Jews, shall be cast out 56:56.300 --> 56:58.440 into outer darkness, there shall be weeping 56:58.440 --> 57:00.240 and gnashing of teeth. 57:00.560 --> 57:00.860 Why? 57:01.040 --> 57:03.840 Because according to the Bible, they have the greater sin. 57:05.380 --> 57:08.080 And look, nations that are not of Israel, 57:08.340 --> 57:09.680 you know, well that's a fake nation out there. 57:09.860 --> 57:10.640 That's a fake Israel. 57:10.880 --> 57:12.780 I agree, but if they want the title, 57:12.780 --> 57:13.580 they can have it though. 57:14.740 --> 57:16.180 People are always trying to make this thing like, 57:16.440 --> 57:18.880 oh yeah, but those are, why are you calling them Israel for? 57:20.060 --> 57:21.860 Well, if they want that title, they can have it. 57:22.680 --> 57:24.540 But obviously they don't understand what comes with, 57:24.860 --> 57:27.100 okay, do you want, so you wanna be Israel? 57:28.380 --> 57:29.400 You wanna call yourself a Jew? 57:29.600 --> 57:30.440 You wanna call yourself Israel? 57:30.760 --> 57:32.140 All right, then you get all the punishments 57:32.140 --> 57:35.020 that Israel gets, if that's what you want. 57:35.400 --> 57:36.400 Just like a Christian, you know, 57:36.460 --> 57:37.900 if a person calls himself a Christian, 57:38.740 --> 57:41.780 and they're not saved, they're gonna be judged harsher. 57:42.780 --> 57:43.400 Than others. 57:44.240 --> 57:44.600 Why? 57:44.700 --> 57:46.260 Because they're in close proximity to the truth. 57:47.580 --> 57:50.120 So I have no beef with fake Jews calling themselves Jews. 57:51.380 --> 57:53.140 Cause they're gonna get a harsher punishment because of it. 57:53.920 --> 57:56.400 Cause they're essentially ascribing 57:56.800 --> 57:58.320 a biblical term to themselves. 57:59.320 --> 58:01.200 And they're saying like, oh, weird, this people is like, 58:01.260 --> 58:03.020 okay, then you're gonna get what this people deserve 58:03.020 --> 58:04.040 for disobeying the covenant. 58:05.060 --> 58:05.760 Plain and simple. 58:06.800 --> 58:08.540 And so, I hope you learned something tonight. 58:08.620 --> 58:08.820 Let's pray. 58:08.900 --> 58:11.340 Father, we thank you so much for Genesis 36 58:11.340 --> 58:12.620 and for teaching us, Lord, 58:13.320 --> 58:15.420 the significance of Esau and Edom. 58:15.960 --> 58:18.360 And I pray, Lord, that you'd help us to appreciate 58:18.360 --> 58:21.160 the fact that you love us. 58:21.620 --> 58:23.920 And you love us because we are Christians 58:24.400 --> 58:25.340 because of Christ. 58:26.040 --> 58:27.540 It's not because of our own merit, Lord. 58:28.500 --> 58:29.440 It's because of the Lord. 58:29.980 --> 58:31.840 We are accepted in the beloved, 58:31.960 --> 58:32.940 is what the Bible tells us. 58:33.060 --> 58:34.640 And so we're very thankful for that. 58:35.180 --> 58:37.280 And I pray that, Lord, you bless us as we go on our way. 58:37.780 --> 58:39.240 Give us a great weekend in Jesus' name.