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And then I want to look back at verse 11.

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The Bible says, Jesus answered,

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thou couldst have no power at all against me,

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except it were given thee from above,

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therefore he that delivered me onto thee

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hath the greater sin.

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Now this phrase here in John chapter 19 of great or sin

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illustrates that not everything is of the same level.

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And so, you know, in the Bible,

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not only are there bigger sins and lesser sins,

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there's also things that are the best thing to do,

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and then maybe the second best thing to do.

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There's not necessarily just everything's

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on the exact same level.

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There's the perfect idea of what you should do,

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then there's maybe the next best option.

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There's things that are legal.

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There's things that are illegal.

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There's things that are sin.

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There's things that are worthy of a crime.

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There's different layers when it comes to

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understanding what's actually happening in the Bible

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and how the Bible classifies different actions.

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And it's important as a preacher and as a pastor

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to preach the entire Bible,

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which will illustrate for the most part,

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every scenario and every response and every action

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that we can possibly really know about in this life.

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You know, life is complicated.

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There's so many different things that can possibly happen.

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There's an infinite number of possibilities and scenarios

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that we can find ourselves in.

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But the Bible ends up having boundaries and frameworks

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to allow us to understand the decisions that we're making,

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how God views them.

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Does God view what we're doing as the best decision

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that I could make, as an acceptable decision,

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as a legal decision, as an illegal decision, as a sin,

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as arguably here, a greater sin.

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And so the Bible very clearly articulates

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that there are distinctions in these categories.

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And it's important as preachers

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to not only preach ideally what should happen,

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but to also preach about all these other scenarios

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and all these other situations that we find ourselves in.

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And so my sermon this morning is just called

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Ideal versus Real.

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And I've been wanting to preach on this topic

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for a long time, but I feel like,

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you know, this is a good opportunity for us

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to just go through all kinds of different situations

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and we could really talk about anything.

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But I did kind of make a chart

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that I'm gonna kind of reference throughout the sermon.

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And then this is kind of basically,

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this is gonna be what the sermon is about.

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But it's just to illustrate the point.

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Now, before we get to the chart,

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I just wanna prove what I just said even more, okay?

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Let's go to 1st John chapter number five for a moment.

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Go to 1st John chapter five.

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But Jesus Christ being betrayed by Judas Iscariot

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is a greater sin than you telling a white lie.

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You know, it's one thing to tell someone a lie.

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It's another thing to lie about someone in court

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and get them killed.

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It's one thing to steal someone's wallet.

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It's another thing to steal their wife.

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It's one thing to look with lust.

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It's another thing to commit physical adultery.

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And we should never collapse all these categories into one

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and act as if there is no difference.

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Now, going to hell, if you say,

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what does it take to go to hell?

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Any sin.

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It could be a little sin or a big sin

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can cause you to deserve hell.

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But we don't wanna then collapse those categories

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and say all sin is equal.

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I hear this all the time and it's not true.

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Who hears this at the door that all sin is equal?

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Yeah, unfortunately, that's not a true statement.

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The only thing that's kind of true about it

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is that all sin will take you to hell.

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I say all sin is punished with the penalty of hell.

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But here's the thing, the Bible even says within hell

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there's certain layers or levels of hell

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and that some people are gonna be suffering worse

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and that would be in relation to how bad they were.

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So even though you could say all sin is equal

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that's not even true.

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The child molesting rapist is gonna be

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in a worse part of hell than the guy

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that just decided to be prideful

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and go to church and believe in his works.

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You know, that guy is not gonna go

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to the exact same place of hell.

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But it's still hell, nevertheless.

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So, you know, even the best part of hell

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is still hell, okay?

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But at the end of the day,

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the Bible talks about a greater damnation.

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The Bible talks about the lowest parts of hell.

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So there is a worse aspect of hell in a sense,

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just like there's technically a better place in heaven.

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Not even heaven.

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Everything is completely equal.

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We're not all gonna have the exact same status,

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the exact same brilliance in our glory.

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We're not gonna have the exact same position.

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We're not gonna have the exact same inheritance,

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you know, as far as our personal,

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whatever we get in heaven.

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Obviously, we all are together, collective.

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We are the inheritors with Christ,

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but it's indicated in the Bible

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that we have our own dwelling places.

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We have our own something that we're ruling over

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and that's gonna be dependent on

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how much you serve God, what you did,

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you know, in this life.

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And so we have to understand that there are layers.

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Now, look at 1st John chapter five

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and I wanna look at a verse here

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that's talking about sin.

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Look at verse 16 of a man see his brother sin of sin,

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which is not unto death.

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He shall ask and he shall give him life for them

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that sin not unto death.

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There is a sin unto death.

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I do not say he should pray for it.

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How could you read this verse

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and then say all sins equal?

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The Bible is saying, in some cases,

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there's sins that you should ask God

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for him to help this person

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and to give grace unto this person

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and then there's some sins unto death.

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Don't even pray about it.

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Don't even ask about it.

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So again, we're showing that there is a distinction in sin.

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There's a greater sin here.

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It's the sin unto death.

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There's a sin not unto death.

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These are two different kinds of sins, aren't they?

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Both are sin, both are bad.

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We wanna make sure that we're categorizing things correctly.

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Go to 1st Corinthians chapter number six.

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Now let's talk about the flip side.

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Not everything that is not a sin is equal either.

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There are things that you can do that are lawful.

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There are things that you can do that are legal.

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And when I say legal,

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I wanna make it clear for the rest of the sermon,

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I'm talking about lawful according to God's law,

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not man's law.

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I know we live in America,

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but that doesn't mean that anything to me, okay?

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According to the Bible, we also live in God's universe

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and that's the law that really matters, okay?

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That's the highest law.

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That's the law that I really care about the most.

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And so when we talk about something being legal

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according to God's law,

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that doesn't mean that's the exact step

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that God wants you to take

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or that's the best or the perfect will of God, okay?

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Sometimes God wants you to do something beyond

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just what's legal or justice or eye for eye in a sense.

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And here's another example.

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This 1st Corinthians 6, look at verse 12.

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All things are lawful unto me,

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but all things are not expedient.

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All things are lawful for me,

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but I will not be brought under the power of any.

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Meats for the belly and belly for meats,

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but God shall destroy both it and them.

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Now the body is not for fornication,

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but for the Lord and the Lord for the body.

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Now here in verse 12,

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he just is kind of giving a blanket generic statement.

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I think that the most immediate application

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of this particular verse is verse 13

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where he says meats for the belly.

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Saying like technically I can eat any meat

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and that's true.

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According to the Bible in the New Testament,

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you can eat any food, any meat,

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but he brings up in other places in Corinthians

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and other places in the Bible

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that if it was meat sacrificed in the idols

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and he's aware of it, he's not gonna eat that.

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Okay, so that wouldn't be expedient.

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That wouldn't be appropriate.

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That wouldn't be right.

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And in a sense it would even be possibly

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a fellowship between the devils,

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but he could eat meat sacrificed in the idols

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if he didn't know about it.

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If he has completely unaware,

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it's not gonna harm him

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because it's technically lawful for him

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and how is God gonna judge him

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for thanking him for this meat

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and ignorantly eating it,

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those quote sacrificed idols.

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He's saying is the idol anything?

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No, everything is the Lord's.

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So in that case, God's not gonna judge him.

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So what is it meaning?

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It's saying yeah, I can technically eat

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anything that I want.

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I can have anything that I want.

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But does that mean it's expedient?

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Now again, what is expedient?

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Prudent, wise,

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a good idea.

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You know, especially in America,

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we have such an abundance of food

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that we almost have an opportunity

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to eat virtually anything that we want.

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Like pretty much anything that's available

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on the market, you could possibly have.

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Now I've heard of cuisines that are pretty exotic.

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I don't know if you can get it in America.

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You know, this thing called belute.

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Who knows what I'm talking about?

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Okay, belute.

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Is that available in America?

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Does anybody know?

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Like, maybe, obviously you could just grab an egg

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and eat it, I get it.

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But I'm just saying like,

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I don't think restaurants are really serving this up

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in America typically or other places and stuff like that.

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Now again, let's talk about belute for a second, okay?

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And I'm not an expert on this particular subject,

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but it's basically like an unhatched bird in an egg,

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okay, in a sense.

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It's an undeveloped bird and egg.

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If I'm saying it wrong, then correct me later.

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But that's more or less what I understand it to be, okay?

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Now, people will just eat this, okay?

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And I find it not something I would ever try, okay?

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So you're like, oh, Pasasilo, you gonna try this?

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No, I'm good.

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I don't have to try everything, okay?

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But here's the thing, it's not sinful.

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It's all things are lawful under me.

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Now here's the question though, is it expedient?

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That's the real question, okay?

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And the thing is, what if it's like,

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hey, I'm gonna only eat belute for the rest of my life?

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Like, I don't know that that's really the best idea.

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You know, let's get a more extreme.

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How about the guy that did the supersize me?

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Who's ever heard of the supersize me?

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I don't even know how real it is.

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People say it's fake.

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But the idea is this guy was gonna eat McDonald's

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for like 30 days straight, nothing but McDonald's.

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It's like, is that legal?

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Like according to God's law, is that a sin technically?

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I don't think it's a sin,

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but I just think that's a pretty unwise decision.

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It's probably not an expedient decision.

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It's like, hey, you could be vegan if you want,

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but that might have consequences.

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If you decide to not eat any meat or any protein,

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like that could cause you to have a physical problem.

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If you go only carnivore, some people go only carnivore

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and that causes them problems.

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God gave us both proteins and he gave us also

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vegetables and nutrients.

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Seems like having a well-balanced diet

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is usually the most expedient.

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Albeit you can do whatever you want.

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You could decide I'm only eating raisins

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for the rest of my life.

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Or I'm only gonna have bananas

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or I'm gonna only eat carrots.

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My dad went through a phase where he's like

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basically only eating carrots.

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Like juicing carrots and only eating carrots

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and he's like gonna carrot fast

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and then he started turning orange.

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It was kind of weird, all right?

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But you know, and again,

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then because of severe health issues he was having,

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he changed his diet.

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Okay, he was like that's not a good idea

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and it's not a good idea, okay?

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But again, was it a sin?

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You know again, obviously there's some passages

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in the Bible that says we're supposed to take care

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of our body and our body's a temple

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and so yeah, obviously just doing things

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that are very harmful to the body

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you could argue is now venturing into sin.

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But for the most part, I mean you can eat

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whatever you want.

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You can kind of just do whatever you want

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in a lot of categories

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but it doesn't mean it's always the best decision.

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You know, eating healthy food and exercising,

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these things are the best ideas for you.

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You know, do you have to be the most buff

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and in shape person to be right with God?

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No, but is it expedient to be lazy and eat poor

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and not take care of yourself?

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No, that's not really very expedient.

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So there's a difference between the best decision

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and acceptable decisions

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and things that are technically not a sin.

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But that doesn't mean that every single decision

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is the right decision as far as the best,

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the most optimal, the thing that God would really have you do

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as the ideal.

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There's the ideal and then there's the real, okay?

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And we're gonna talk about that more depth

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but I'm just trying to prove my point

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that the apostle Paul is clearly saying

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there are things on the table that I could do

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and it would not be a sin

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but that doesn't mean it's the best decision.

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It's not necessarily expedient, okay?

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Let's go to some more passages.

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Let's go to Matthew chapter five for a moment

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which is actually really virtually a quote from Deuteronomy

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but in Deuteronomy it says to be perfect, okay?

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God just instructs us to be perfect

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and what does that mean?

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Doing everything absolutely right.

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So if we could identify anywhere in the Bible

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that this is exactly God's perfect will

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then we should always do that.

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God gives us an instruction

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and commands us to do what's perfect.

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Look at Matthew chapter five verse 48.

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Be therefore perfect even as your father

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which in heaven is perfect.

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Now again Matthew five is really famous

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and we're gonna use portions of this

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in our sermon this morning

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but Matthew five is really famous

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for going beyond what would be lawful,

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what would be legal, what the law prescribes

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and doing what's the most perfect form of righteousness.

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Basically the highest level of righteousness

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which would be argued as the perfect will of God

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and then we're commanded and instructed to be perfect.

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But the good news is is no one will ever be perfect

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and so grace covers our sin,

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grace covers our imperfections,

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hey grace even covers our less expedient decisions

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in a sense and so no one's gonna be perfect

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but our expectation is to be perfect.

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I always use this illustration to mean it's very clear

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my children are expected to follow

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every single one of my rules.

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I never give rules or instructions to my kids

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and I'm thinking this is optional.

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Like clean your room.

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This is an optional idea.

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Clean your room on time or eat your dinner

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or brush your teeth or don't hit your brother.

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This is, it's always expected.

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They should always follow every rule perfectly

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but you know what I also expect that every single day

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they will not follow my rules okay.

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So there's the ideal and then there's the real

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and just like my children transgress every day

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we, if we were honest with ourselves

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are probably transgressing God's law every single day.

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So we should do both.

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We should number one,

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preach what the ideal perfect will of God is

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as pastors and preachers and as Christians.

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We should tell people what we should do

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but then we should also talk about reality

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because none of us are gonna ever do that

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so then what do we do when we find ourselves

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in a situation where we didn't follow

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the perfect will of God?

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Where we're not in the ideal situation

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where we're not experiencing something that's perfect.

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As preachers and pastors

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we can't only ever preach perfection.

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We can't only ever preach what's ideal.

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We should also preach what's real

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and this is where people get mad

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because you know there are gonna be things that

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there's gonna be situations,

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there's gonna be circumstances

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where I am never gonna be in that situation.

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I'm never gonna be in this problem

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but I'm still gonna preach it because other people are.

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It's just like, hey what about people

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that are divorced five times?

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It's like well I'm never gonna be divorced five times

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but I'll tell you what I would do

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I'll tell you what the Bible says

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in that particular scenario.

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It's like hey what would you do

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if you find yourself in this weird scenario

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and it's just like well I'm never gonna be

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in that scenario but I'll tell you what I should do.

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I'll tell you what the Bible says.

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So as pastors and preachers

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we should preach about what you would do

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in a situation when it happens.

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You're not recommending it,

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you're not even necessarily suggesting it.

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You're saying this is where people really are though.

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Okay and we shouldn't be sitting here

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and just saying well I'm perfect

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and my wife's perfect and my family's perfect

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and so I'm just gonna talk about that.

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Well that's not very relatable

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because for the rest of us,

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well none of us are perfect.

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You know now are we commanded to be perfect?

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Sure.

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Are we told to be perfect?

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Yes.

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But are we perfect?

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No.

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Go to Galatians chapter three

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it's one more verse I'm gonna go before

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I really get through the sermon

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but I'm trying to just prove beyond a shadow of a doubt

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the Bible makes it clear there are levels of righteousness

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and there's levels of sin.

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There's the perfect will of God,

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there's what's ideal

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and then there's reality.

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There's what people are gonna actually do.

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And of course why would God

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even fill the entire Old Testament

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with all these instructions of what you do when you sin

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if no one was gonna sin?

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Why didn't God just say don't sin?

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Now he's like hey when you sin offer this offering

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and do this trespass offering

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and you know go here

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and it's just like he's given like all these different

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scenarios and all these different situations

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and all these different circumstances

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and the various ramifications

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and what you have to do to rectify

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because that's reality.

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Galatians chapter three verse 19

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the Bible says wherefore then served the law

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it was added because of transgressions.

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So what's the point of the law?

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It's to explain what you do when you're screwed up

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when you've caused all these problems.

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I wanna go to one other place

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go to Leviticus chapter five

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I thought of this as well.

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Leviticus chapter number five.

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Let's talk about the different options you have.

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You know and sometimes when people screw up

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they'll say hey how do I fix it?

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And it's like well here's the best thing to do to fix it.

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Then it's like I don't know if I wanna do that

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what other options is like well I guess

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you know here's the second best option

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here and then like here's like a third best option

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but it's like well what should I do?

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You should do the first best option you know

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but what if you can't?

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Well you know God thinks that way as well.

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Look at Leviticus chapter five

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look at verse number five

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and it shall be when he should be guilty

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in one of those things

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and one of these things

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that he should confess that he had sinned in that thing

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and he shall bring his trespass offering to the Lord

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for a sin which he had sinned

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a female from the flock a lamb

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or a kid of the goats for a sin offering

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and the priest shall make an atonement

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for him concerning his sin.

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So when you sin in this trespass

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what are you supposed to do?

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You're supposed to offer a lamb as a sacrifice.

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Okay and then it says look at verse seven

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and if you'd be not able to bring a lamb

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it's like the next breath

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it's like what if I can't bring a lamb?

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What if I just don't, what if that's not an option?

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Then he shall bring for his trespass

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which he has committed two turtle doves

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or two young pigeons out of the Lord

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for a sin offering and the other for a burn offering.

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So it's saying hey if you don't have a lamb

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well then offer two turtle doves.

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Look at verse 11.

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But if you'd be not able to bring two turtle doves

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notice how God is like not just saying

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hey just bring a lamb case closed

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it's like hey if you can't bring a lamb

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bring two turtle doves.

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What if I can't bring two turtles?

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All right let's address that.

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Verse 11.

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But if you're not able to bring two turtle doves

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or two young pigeons then he at sin

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shall bring for his offering the 10th part

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of an Eiffel fine flour for a sin offering.

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He shall put no oil upon it

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neither shall he put any frankincense there

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on for it as a sin offering.

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So it's like ideal lamb offering.

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You know I don't know what the market price is anymore

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but let's just try to put this

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in like modern day numbers okay.

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It's like a lamb I mean a whole lamb

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a perfect spotless lamb

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this could probably be several hundred dollars

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you know in a modern day context.

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I have no idea.

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I knew like a whole cow used to be

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like two or $3,000 or something.

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I have no idea anymore inflation

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just messes with numbers and me anymore

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but it's like I would venture to believe

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that a lamb could be 500, 600, $700 okay.

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How about two birds?

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That's probably you know less.

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I don't know.

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Let's just say like 50 bucks right.

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It's like hey if you trespass

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you better give $700 to the Lord.

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It's like but if you can't give 50

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and then it's like then it's like

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just give a 10th part of flour okay.

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Like a bag of flour is like I don't know

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if you get an organic one

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it might be seven bucks or something.

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I don't know if you get non-organic

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it might be like $3 or something.

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Let's say you went for the fancy flour.

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Only a 10th part.

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I mean it's like hey you either give $700

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or $50 or a dollar.

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You know it's just like

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if you can't afford 50 then just give a dollar you know.

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But it's like because again

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because to God it's not like

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oh $700 is like more important to God

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than a dollar or whatever.

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But it's like he wants it to be some recompense.

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He wants it to be some punishment

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and a sense for this particular sin.

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And so it's like what's ideal?

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Ideal give a lamb.

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And why?

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Because the lamb is the picture

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the Lord Jesus Christ and what he did for us.

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And that is the ultimate picture of the sacrifice

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because he's the lamb of God

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and it's taking the things of God seriously

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and reverently and it's really important that we do this.

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But you know what?

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God's like I get it.

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You can't really fix your situation perfectly

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and you're not in circumstances.

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You probably have more than one thing going on in your life

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since you can't even afford a lamb.

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But he's like if you wanna get right

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the door's still open.

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And so it's like God is really about the heart

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at the end of the day.

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But that doesn't mean that we should excuse ourselves

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and not always go for the best option

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and try to do what's right.

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So we need to preach all of it don't we?

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There's gonna be some people

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that find themselves in a situation

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where all they can do is give a buck.

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Where all they can do is give a 10th part

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of an epho of fine flour.

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And it's like you know what?

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Well that's what that guy should do.

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And we don't wanna ignore this guy

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and be like well I'm gonna give a lamb.

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My family would give a lamb.

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Well good for you that you would give a lamb.

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But not everybody can give a lamb.

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What about the other guy?

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Well he gives two turtle doves.

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What about the other guy?

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He gives a 10th part of a fine flour.

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So we wanna make sure that we understand

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not everybody is gonna be able to do the same things

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or have the same situation.

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And we want to preach from a biblical perspective

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what everybody should be doing.

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Not just what you're gonna do.

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You Mr. Perfect, okay?

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Go over to Matthew chapter 19 now.

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Let's go to Matthew chapter 19.

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So I created a chart and it may not make sense

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by just looking at it.

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Hopefully it makes a little bit of sense,

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but I basically want to categorize things

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this morning, levels of righteousness.

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And we wanna talk about,

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I'm just using all kinds of different scenarios

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to help us understand what we're talking about.

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But as I've described,

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I believe there's what we would call

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the perfect will of God.

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And this is what we've seen.

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He said be therefore perfect

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even as your father which is in heaven is perfect.

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We should always do what God wants us to do

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is perfection.

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When we talked about these sacrifices,

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the lamb is the perfect sacrifice for that situation,

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right?

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Then two turtle doves would be next.

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Then a fine flour.

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Hey, it's still lawful.

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It's still legal.

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It's still with the law prescribed.

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But it wasn't really the best, was it?

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The lamb was the best.

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The two turtle doves was next.

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And then barely scraping by at the bare minimum

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at the lowest level of just what is absolutely lawful

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is the what?

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The 10th part of an Epha, okay?

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And then I put a category in here of what's disputed.

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There's gonna be some things in the Bible,

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some situations, some scenarios

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that we don't really know exactly

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because there's not really a Bible verse about it

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or it's not a subject that's really discussed directly.

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We can point to maybe some verses

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that kind of give an idea or a sense

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and good Christian people

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are on both sides of this issue, okay?

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That's how I would describe this.

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Good Christian people.

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I'm not saying, hey, atheists will dispute this verse.

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I'm not saying freaks and trainees

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are disputing this verse.

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I'm saying like good Christian people

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are on both sides of this issue, okay?

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Then you have what's just clearly identified

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as sin in the Bible.

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Now again, this is actually a part in the Bible

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because it talks about doubtful disputations.

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So it's not like I'm coming up with this idea

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that there's some things that are disputed.

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No, the Bible literally says there's gonna be some things

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that good Christian people on both sides

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have doubtful disputations.

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There's some things in the Bible that are clearly sin.

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There's some things in the Bible that are clearly legal.

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Then there's some things that are doubtful disputation.

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And we wanna make sure that we're always identifying

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these categories and placing things correctly.

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There's things that are not only a sin,

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but they also then cross another boundary,

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another line of church discipline.

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Not every sin is church discipline,

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but there are some sins that cross a threshold

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and now it's crossed into a church discipline issue.

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Then there are some sins that not only

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are they church discipline, they're just illegal.

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This is something that is a crime according to God's law.

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This should be punished in some way.

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Then there are some crimes that cross a threshold

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where the punishment is the death penalty.

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This is a death penalty, a capital crime.

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And this is where I personally interpret

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what we read earlier in 1 John chapter number five,

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that if a man sin, there's a sin not under death

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and there's a sin under death.

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I do not say you should pray for it.

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Basically saying like, if we lived in a righteous society

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that had generally God's laws, okay,

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and someone's guilty of murder,

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we shouldn't be like, God,

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will you please allow this guy to get off with murder?

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It's like, no, we're gonna just bring him to the magistrate

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and he deserves to be put to death.

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But it's like this guy stole or something

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or this guy got drunk or something

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and made a big mistake or whatever.

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It's like, hey, we could pray that God

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be graces that person and be merciful to that person

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and not necessarily give them what they deserve, okay?

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Then lastly, not every death penalty sin

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is reprobate, but there are some that cross all the way down

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to the very bottom of the barrel

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and it's just a reprobate sin, okay?

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So we have these different layers.

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Now, it's possible, I didn't think of everything.

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It's possible that there's other layers

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or other nuance or whatever.

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I just, I've spent a lot of time on this chart.

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I've tried to do my best.

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I think this is a very good representation

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of how we would classify things in the Bible

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and understand different scenarios

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and how we should respond.

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So then what I did is I basically took like

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some categories that are loosely related

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and kind of went down to try and talk about them, okay?

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So let's talk about relationship statuses

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because everybody's got a different relationship status, okay?

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We're gonna determine the relationship, okay?

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Isn't that the DTR talk

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or whatever ladies talk about or whatever?

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How does God view different relationship statuses, okay?

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Well, in my chart, at the very top,

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I have virgins who are faithfully married.

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That's about the best you could ever get, right?

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Isn't that ideal?

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What if I just get up

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and that's the only relationship status I ever talk about?

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Well, you need to be virgin

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and faithfully married to that virgin and that's it.

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How many people in America do you think

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fall into that category?

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Well, according to online statistics,

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it's like something like 97% or 98%

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of men commit fornication before getting married.

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Women, I think it's slightly less, okay?

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Then of that group,

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how many of those people have been completely faithful

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in that marriage, okay?

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I mean we're talking about a pretty small subset

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and you know what's really sad

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is you know what's making a big percentage of that?

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People like Mormons

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and some of these other groups as well.

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So it's not even necessarily fundamental Baptist.

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And let's just be honest about a church like ours.

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A church like ours, a lot of people

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were not even raised a fundamental Baptist

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or in a godly home.

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We've reached them through just going out there

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and so they've had a past, okay?

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So should we only ever preach this

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and never talk about any other scenario

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or any other situation, never address it?

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No, no, we shouldn't only talk about

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hey, me and my wife are virgin

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and we're perfectly faithful

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and that's the only thing I'm gonna bring up or address.

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No, there's other scenarios in the Bible, okay?

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How about people that are non-virgin and faithfully married?

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Well, that would be kind of the next best situation.

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Of people in this world of their relationship status,

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we want to preach that we want all of our young people

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to be like this.

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We want every one of our kids to be virgins

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who are faithfully married, isn't that what we want?

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But hey, what if they screwed up?

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Well, then we want them to still get married

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and be faithful, right?

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That's the next layer.

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They were non-virgin, but hey, at least they were faithful.

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And then it's like, okay, well, what's technically legal

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but not even close to perfect or next

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as far as relationship status?

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That'll be someone that was divorced lawfully,

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which is an interesting category,

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but look at Matthew chapter 19.

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And this is kind of an interesting clause that's brought up

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but in Matthew chapter 19, let's read in verse number four

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and he answered his son of them,

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have you not read that he which made them

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at the beginning made them male and female?

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He said, for this college shall a man leave his father

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and mother and shall cleave to his wife

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and they twain shall be one flesh,

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wherefore they are no more twain but one flesh,

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with the regarded twain together, let not man put asunder.

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So the question was, could you divorce for any reason?

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And Jesus is saying, well, God's put you together,

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so let's not put him asunder.

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The answer is just like, no, you shouldn't get divorced.

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Not only should it be not for any reason,

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it should just be never, like just never divorce, right?

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So what's ideal, what's perfect?

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God would say that a couple that gets married

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would never divorce for any reason.

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That's perfect, okay?

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What is actually lawful though, they bring this up

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and they say then, they say, and why did Moses

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then command to give a riding a divorceman

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and to put her away?

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He said unto them, Moses, because of the hardness

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of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives,

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but from the beginning it was not so.

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And I say unto you, whose service shall put away

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his wife except to be for fornication

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and shall marry another committed adultery

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and his will marry her which is put away,

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death committed adultery.

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So let's think about what he said.

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What is Jesus's view of should you divorce?

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Never, that's perfect, okay?

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Then he said, because of the hardness of your hearts,

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meaning you're not gonna do what's perfect,

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he gave one provision that's technically lawful

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to put away a wife for the cause of fornication.

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Which again, is a little bit confusing

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in our modern understanding because we have

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no fault divorce.

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In the Bible, the only reason you could divorce

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is if she said she was a virgin and she's not

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and then you can put her away after you have that discovery

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which is basically like an annulment more so

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than what we have as a divorce today.

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So it's more like an annulment, if anything.

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And it's saying if you got that divorce,

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that type of putting away, the biblical version

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which is more like an annulment

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and then you got remarried, there would be no sin.

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So it's lawful, it's lawful to have been married

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temporarily, found out that it was a fraud marriage

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and then get remarried, that is technically lawful.

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That's legal.

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But is that perfect?

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Is that ideal?

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Is that what God wants?

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Is that what God advocates for?

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No, God's perfect will is to never divorce for any reason.

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So as your pastor, that's what I preach.

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That's what I recommend.

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That's what I counsel people.

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I'm never saying, well, I know this is legal.

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So just do it.

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It's like, well, yeah, it is legal

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but this is what you should do.

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Now again, if someone said, well, is it a sin

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for me to put this person away

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if they lied about being a virgin

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and I caught them on my wedding night,

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can I perform this type of a putting away right now?

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Then I would say, well, that's technically lawful.

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That is not a sin, but that is not what God wants for you.

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God doesn't want you to have a heart and heart

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towards that person.

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God wants you to actually stay with this person

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and remain married.

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That's the perfect will of God.

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Okay.

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So we're understanding there's a difference here

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and think about it with Mary and Joseph.

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Joseph being a just man was gonna put her away privately.

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Now here's the thing.

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Justice is getting what you deserve.

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Justice is another word that we typically associate

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with the law or what's legal.

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Joseph's gonna give her what's legal.

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Joseph's gonna give her what's just,

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eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth,

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putting away for what she did.

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But what's the perfect will of God

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is to stay married to the person.

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Now again, that was with his understanding

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that she'd actually done something wrong.

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She didn't even do anything wrong.

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So he doesn't have to put her away

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because he has the understanding.

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But if he had done what was just,

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you could put them away.

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If you're gonna do what's merciful, well, again.

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And praise God that God is not a God only legality

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because if we got what we deserve,

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where would we go when we die?

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Hell, that's what we deserve.

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That's legal.

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That's what's justice.

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But you know what?

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God in his perfect will had Jesus die on the cross,

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pay all of our sins so that we could go to heaven

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and we could have an experience mercy.

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So mercy triumphs over justice.

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Mercy triumphs over the law and what we deserve.

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So what's the best decision?

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Never get divorced for any reason.

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What's technically lawful is for the case of fornication.

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So what else though, if you do get divorced though,

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and it's not for that particular exception,

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then it's a sin.

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Okay?

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It's wrong.

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It's not lawful.

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It's not legal.

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If you divorced your spouse

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and it's not that specific fornication clause,

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then it would be a sin.

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Okay?

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I put in this category of disputed

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because some people would argue,

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what about this scenario of a rapper bait?

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And this is why it's somewhat time to dispute it

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a little bit too,

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is because in first Corinthians chapter number seven,

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you have this provision of an unbeliever

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departs from you, you're no longer under bondage.

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Now I would interpret that as being,

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they divorce you basically.

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You have an unbeliever that doesn't want to be married

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to you, refuses to stay married to you

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and they personally put you away,

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then you don't have to necessarily fight that.

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Okay?

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You don't have to necessarily go to bat

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against that per se.

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But this is where it's disputed.

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I still say, even if you were married to a rapper bait,

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just stay married to them.

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You don't have to necessarily live with them.

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You don't have to necessarily be around them.

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But what's the point of getting a divorce

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is just so that you can then marry someone else

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or so that they can marry someone else

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and that's a sin.

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So why even put that on the table?

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Okay.

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Plus all you're gonna do is just give a lot

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of your assets to lawyers and stuff like that.

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Like, it's not like, oh, I get half the assets.

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Well, all the assets are yours when you're still married.

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Okay, so I personally don't think that you should.

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I'm not gonna throw stones at people

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that divorced an actual rapper bait

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and actual child molesting pedophile

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or something like that.

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But good people on both sides of this issue.

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All right?

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But if you divorce and it's not fornication,

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it's not that specific revision, then it's a sin.

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Now, what about church discipline?

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I have your fornication.

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Now, I'm not gonna prove every one of these

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for sake of time.

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First Corinthians chapter number five says

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if someone's committing fornication,

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they are gonna be church disciplined, okay?

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There is another thing though that I wanted to bring up.

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Go if you would to Deuteronomy chapter 21,

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Deuteronomy chapter 21.

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The Bible brings up the idea of two wives.

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Okay.

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Now, this is where atheists and people that hate the Bible

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will try to like throw stones like,

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oh, the Bible's saying you can have multiple wives.

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No, it's not saying you can have multiple wives.

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Okay.

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It's addressing a situation where someone has multiple wives.

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It's not saying here's God's perfect will, have two wives.

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Okay.

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First of all, the math doesn't really work.

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Have you ever noticed that there's like 50% men

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and 50% women generally speaking?

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How is it that everybody's gonna have quote, two wives?

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You know, if that was true,

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then you would have like some other ratio

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that God would be performing.

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But Deuteronomy, look at chapter 21 verse 15.

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If a man have two wives,

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does that sound like God's just saying have two wives?

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Or is he saying if?

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If a man happened to have two wives,

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one beloved and another hated,

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and they have born him children,

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both the beloved and the hated,

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and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated,

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then it shall be when he maketh his sons inherit

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that which he hath,

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that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn

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before the son of the hated,

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which is indeed the firstborn.

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But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated

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for the firstborn by giving him a double portion

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of all that he hath,

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for he is the beginning of his strength,

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the right of the firstborn is his.

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So according to the Bible,

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you have to still follow God's law,

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even when you didn't follow God's law.

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Okay, now I wanna prove this.

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Go if you would to Mark chapter number 10.

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I wanted to show you that there's two wives,

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but I believe that this is a sin.

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Having two wives is a sin.

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Go to Mark chapter number 10,

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and I'm gonna prove this to you.

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But the Bible says in verse number 11,

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and he saith unto them,

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whosoever shall put away his wife

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and marry another committed adultery against her.

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Now think about this.

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If you're married and then you divorce your wife,

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so you're no longer married to her,

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then you get remarried.

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The Bible says you're committing adultery

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against that wife that's been divorced.

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How much more would that be the case

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if she was still your wife?

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Okay, it would be silly to think like,

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well, it's adultery if you divorced her,

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but if you stay married to the first wife,

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it's now magically not adultery against her?

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Now obviously the Bible is helping you realize

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it was adultery to add another woman into your life

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and have a second wife, okay?

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So this is just another clear text to illustrate

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that all the polygamous relationships

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in the Old Testament were a sin,

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let alone the fact that every single situation

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is a train wreck, every single situation

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seems like a bad idea,

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and there's just horrible consequences to it.

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And you know, we live in America

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where we don't even have the ability to do that,

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but even if we did live in a society

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that allowed for polygamy

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or allowed for this type of a situation,

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it would still be a sin.

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It's still wrong.

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It's not something that you should do.

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Now notice a couple categories, okay?

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Notice legal, notice illegal, and then notice sin.

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Can you sin and it be legal?

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Yeah, that's how some of these categories work.

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So technically it could be legal

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somewhere in the world to marry another person,

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and yet it's still a sin, okay?

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Just like committing fornication in America,

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by and large it's legal, but that's still a sin, okay?

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So we wanna make sure that we have these categories

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kind of in our view of understanding

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how we would differentiate.

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Now I do believe there's a type of fornication

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that crosses a criminal boundary,

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and that will be fornication with a virgin specifically.

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Go if you would to Exodus chapter 22.

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Go if you would to Exodus chapter 22.

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So again, fornication would be anything before marriage,

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that will get you church discipline,

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according to 1 Corinthians chapter number five.

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So that would be not only a sin,

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it's a sin that you could be church's one.

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We don't kick people out for sinning though.

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Then none of us could show up.

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And again, this is what people get mad, they say,

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oh, I can't come to your church because I'm a drunkard.

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So then everyone shouldn't be able to go to church

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because everybody's a sinner.

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It's just like, no, you're collapsing categories again.

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No, your sin is not welcome in church.

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Not that I'm not a sinner,

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it's just that this particular behavior

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and attitude and lifestyle is not welcome in the church

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because it affects other people negatively.

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And a little 11, 11's the whole lump.

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So we wanna make sure that,

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oh, you're saying that my sin's worse than yours.

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Yes?

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Oh, I thought all sin was equal.

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No, see, there's so many false doctrines

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that we're destroying this morning, okay?

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All sin is equal is bad

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because it collapses all these categories.

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You know, I'll say, oh, this person committed murder.

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They deserve the death penalty.

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Well, no, no, no, because the Bible says

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for the wage is as soon as death, man.

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So we all deserve the death penalty.

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Wrong.

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We don't wanna collapse all these categories.

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If that was true, then God wouldn't have said

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what he said in the Old Testament.

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He would have just said, every time someone sins,

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cap them, you know?

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But he didn't because this is not what the Bible teaches.

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The reason why he has different punishments

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is because there's different layers of sin.

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There's different levels, okay?

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So we wanna make sure we understand all these categories.

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So, you know, instead of being offended

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at the person saying your sin is worse,

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why don't you just realize your sin is worse

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and think, man, maybe I need to get ahold of myself

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because I'm screwing up?

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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It's like there's a difference between driving five miles

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per hour over the speed limit

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and driving 50 miles per hour over the speed limit.

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Now, are they both a transgression?

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Yes, will they both get a ticket?

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Yes, but in many cases, you'll get a worse penalty,

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a worse ticket, if you're going that much faster

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over the speed limit.

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And in fact, by going five over the speed limit in Dallas,

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you probably won't even get a ticket.

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Yeah, yeah.

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But that doesn't mean it wasn't a sin.

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That doesn't mean it wasn't a crime, okay?

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In the same way that's like,

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you could commit fornication in America

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and no one's gonna come and do anything to you about it.

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That doesn't mean it wasn't a sin.

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And so some people that are not very Christian

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or don't care about Christianity,

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they think if it's legal, it's not a sin.

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If it's illegal, it is a sin.

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It's like, no, we don't care about America's laws.

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We care about God's laws, okay?

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And we're not asking for the magistrate.

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We're not asking for America to police all sin.

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We want America to police this, you know?

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Can we just start here?

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Like just do this at the bare minimum.

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Let alone like this category, okay?

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We'll get to there in a minute,

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but this is following in this category.

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So we've been going down and talking about relationships.

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You know, virgins that are faithfully married,

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that's perfect.

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People that have not been virgin,

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but they get married, they're faithful,

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that's the next best situation.

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Someone that had an annulment,

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they can still get remarried,

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and it's not the best, but hey, you know what?

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It was still not even a sin.

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People that got divorced or some rap or something,

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I'm not throwing stones at you.

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I kind of think you shouldn't have done it, but whatever.

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You got divorced and it wasn't for a legitimate,

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lawful clause of fornication, that was a sin.

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Sorry, and I'm gonna preach against that idea

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and say that was a sin.

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You are committing fornication,

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you'll be kicked out of this church.

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If you're living together and you're not married,

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you will not be welcome in the church.

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Now again, if you're living together,

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like let's say we go out and get someone saved,

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and they're living together and they show up at church,

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I'm not kicking them out.

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They're not even a member of our church

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to get kicked out yet.

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I can't kick you out because you're not even a member.

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Okay, so obviously that person

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is probably never gonna come back.

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Why do we have to worry about kicking them out?

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Okay, how about let's wait until they become a member

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before we even worry about kicking them out?

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Okay, and I get asked this question a lot.

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They're like, hey, this person,

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I gotta say it's so winning a sinful,

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can we bring him in?

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It's like, sure, but they're not a member.

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Okay, we're gonna church discipline people

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that are members of the church.

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Now, if you've been a member of this church for 10 years

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and you get caught, yeah, there's no cooling down.

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You're gonna be taken to task immediately

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because you're already a member,

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you should have already known

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you're gonna be taken to task, right?

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Hey, what would be an illegal thing

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that we're bringing up?

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Well, is if you commit fornication with a virgin.

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Exodus chapter 22, look at verse number 16.

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And if a man enticed a maid that is not betrothed

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and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife.

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If her father utterly refused to give her unto him,

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he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins.

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So according to the Bible,

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if a man were to lie with a virgin,

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then he is obligated if they get caught to marry her.

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But even if the father says,

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no, I don't want you to get married.

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Let's say that's the reason,

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the only reason you don't get married

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is because the father says no,

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he could still exact the dowry from you

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because you've defrauded him,

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you've defrauded her of this financial reward for that.

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And so he would have to pay this penalty.

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So if the guy's not paying,

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he could take him to the magistrate,

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take him to the judges,

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and the judges would say, you have to pay the dowry.

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And so there's a criminality element,

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there's an illegal element, you have to pay this, okay?

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Now, if she was not a maid,

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well, there's no criminal element per se.

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But there would be a criminal element

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to taking someone's virginity and not marrying them.

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It's like, oh, I got caught committing fornication

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with this person, what am I supposed to do?

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You're supposed to marry them biblically.

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That's what the Bible says.

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If you get caught,

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then you're supposed to betroth them,

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you're supposed to get married.

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The only exception would be if the father utterly refuses.

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I would say based on the whole of scripture,

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we have to understand that this context

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is marrying someone within the tribes of Israel.

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So obviously they're in view of someone

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that's in the same tribe,

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which is a spiritual application of someone that's saved.

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So I'd say the only other exception would be

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that they're saved, okay?

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So if you get caught committing fornication

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and they're not saved and you can't get them saved,

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I would never say you should marry that person, okay?

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But if you can get them saved or they are saved,

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the only reason you shouldn't do it

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is because the father is utterly refusing.

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That's what the Bible says.

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Now some people don't like that.

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Some people don't wanna believe what I'm saying.

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I'm just telling you what the Bible says.

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That's the perfect scenario.

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You get caught committing fornication, marry them, okay?

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What's next?

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Pay the dowry, okay?

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Well, that would be like legal, pay the dowry, all right?

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What would be a sin would be not marrying this person, okay?

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Just not even seeking that kind of a marriage would be a sin.

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I wanna go to another category, Leviticus chapter 21.

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There's a specific kind of fornication

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that actually results in the death penalty,

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according to the Bible.

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Look at Leviticus chapter 21, look at verse number nine.

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And the daughter of any priest,

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if she profane herself by playing the horror,

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she profaneth her father, she shall be burnt with fire.

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So a whore of a priest, you know,

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the daughter that commits fornication as a priest's daughter,

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that results in the death penalty.

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That's a serious punishment for that type of fornication, okay?

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Now, you know, we don't necessarily have

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a modern day example of that,

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but you should take it really serious.

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Hey, if your dad is a man of God,

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you better not go out and play the whore

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because God takes that really serious

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to make him look bad what you're doing.

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And again, it doesn't really like,

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obviously as fathers, we should do our best

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to protect our daughters, but at the end of the day,

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you know what, you can only do so much

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and at the end of the day,

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she's responsible for that action

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and she's put the death.

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The priest doesn't put the death.

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The priest, you know, looks bad obviously.

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It makes him profane.

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People are gonna talk negatively about him

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as a result of that, but you know what?

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She's the one that's punished.

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We don't punish parents for the sin of the child.

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Go to Deuteronomy 22, go to Deuteronomy 22.

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So how do we classify all these different relationships?

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Well, we just let the Bible tell us where they are.

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And we don't wanna pretend like they're all the same.

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We don't wanna pretend like every relationship status,

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every relationship is gonna be the exact same.

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They're not.

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Deuteronomy 22, look at verse 25.

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The Bible says, but if a man find a betrothed damsel

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in the field and the man force her and lie with her,

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then the man only that lay with her shall die.

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Now I'm not gonna read the whole,

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there's two more verses on this,

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but again, notice the death penalty

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for force of a betrothed woman.

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Okay, again, the modern versions

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will twist some of these passages

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and start saying like,

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oh, well, you actually have to marry her

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if you get raped, it's like,

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that's not what the Bible says.

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That's not what the King James Bible says.

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We don't wanna collapse these weird ideas.

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Look, the Bible basically teaches,

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rape is met with the death penalty, okay?

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Specifically, it's bringing up a betrothed woman,

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but we could probably extrapolate beyond that.

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Lastly, we have the reprobate category.

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I don't even feel like I need to prove this point,

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but Leviticus 2013 says if a man lie with mankind,

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is he lie with a woman?

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Hey, we're gonna stone him to death, all right?

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It's that simple, he's put the death.

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That's not only death penalty, it's also reprobate.

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You could commit murder, not a reprobate,

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but you commit sodomy, well, it's both, okay?

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And we wanna make sure we understand those categories.

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And again, I would say that what's interesting,

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and you can think whatever you want,

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but this is why I think it's interesting, okay?

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If we were to look at an old IMB church,

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they basically get mad at us

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for each one of these layers,

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and each layer gets them a little bit more mad, okay?

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It's like, no one in the old IMB

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has mad at us for preaching this.

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No one gets mad at us for saying be a virgin

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and be faithful to your wife.

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I mean, who's getting mad at us for that?

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I'm saying old IMB, I'm not talking about the world.

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I'm talking about other Christians.

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Think about with me for just a second.

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Maybe you've never been to another Baptist church,

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maybe you've never been to another Southern Baptist church

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or another fundamental Baptist church,

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but those that have been there,

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like who's ever been to another church like that,

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ever before, okay?

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All right, they don't get mad at us for that, do they?

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They don't even get mad at us for saying,

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hey, you screwed up, but you got married, you're faithful.

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Good job.

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Now they start getting a little mad at us

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when we start saying that divorce

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is only lawful for fornication, though, don't they?

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Some of them will get mad at us for that,

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and they'll say, no, no,

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we also think there's other scenarios.

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We also think abandonment,

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and we also think abuse,

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and we also think adultery,

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they just create all these other categories,

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and they get mad at our stance on this issue, okay?

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They get mad on our stance on church discipline, even.

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I mean, there's a lot of churches

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that will not exercise church discipline

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the way that we do,

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and they get mad about it for railing.

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I mean, you bring up railing?

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They get mad and lose their mind about that,

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and they act like,

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how dare you excommunicate someone for railing?

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We say certain things are illegal, you know?

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They'll get mad.

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How about just our view on the death penalty?

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They really lose their mind on us getting up

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and saying Leviticus 2013.

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They'll get mad at us for saying certain people

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should be put to death.

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And then the thing that just really

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irritates the fire out of them

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is saying that fags are reprobate, isn't it?

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Isn't it kind of interesting that as you go down

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this list, it's like they kind of get mad,

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really upset, frustrated, and lose their mind, okay?

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But it's like, that's what the Bible teaches.

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Sorry, you don't like these categories.

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Now again, I'm sure there's some people

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that would agree with us,

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but I'm just telling you,

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people love to collapse these categories

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because they don't wanna deal with these issues.

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And of course, when you deal with all these scenarios

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and all these issues,

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people get mad because they'll be like,

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well, I have a cousin that's in this category.

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Sorry.

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Well, I'm in this category,

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or I'm in this category,

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or I did this, or I did, you know?

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And so they get all mad about all these things,

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and that's why they wanna collapse them.

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And they wanna just collapse everything,

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or they only want everybody ever to preach this

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so we don't really shine any light

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on all these other categories and all these other levels, okay?

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But look, we should preach everything in the Bible

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and not just what you wanna hear.

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Go to Matthew chapter five,

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go to Matthew chapter number five.

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The law was added for transgressions.

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Wherefore serve of the law?

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It was added because of transgressions.

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So we're gonna explain to you what is the greater sin.

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We're gonna explain to you what is lawful

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but not expedient.

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We're gonna tell you what's perfect and what's not.

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We're gonna tell you what gets kicked out of church

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and what doesn't.

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We're gonna tell you what should be legal

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and what should not be legal.

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We're gonna tell you what should be put to death

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and what should not be put to death.

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Ah, well, we live in America.

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I don't care.

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You know, it doesn't matter what nation we live in,

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the nations aren't important to God.

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You know what matters to God?

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God's law.

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And God is mad at a nation that constantly says,

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well, this is what we do.

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Well, God's like, well, you should do what I do.

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Should do what I want.

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That's what matters.

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Not whatever the law is.

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Now again, do we consider the law?

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Sure.

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Is it something that we should also preach?

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Yes.

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But you know what?

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It doesn't triumph God's law.

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So we should preach what God wants first.

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Matthew chapter five, look at verse 38.

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You have heard that it has been said

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in I for an eye and a tooth for a tooth

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but I say in you that you resist not evil

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but whosoever shall smite thee on the right cheek

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turn to him the other also.

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So again, notice in verse 39,

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the context or the essence is what?

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That you resist not evil.

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Now again, evil can mean two things in the Bible.

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It can mean wicked, morally wrong,

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or it can mean physical harm, injury.

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When it's saying here resist not evil,

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it's not saying do wicked now.

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Don't resist morally wrong stuff.

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It's saying don't resist injury.

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Don't resist physical harm, okay?

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That's what it's saying.

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Now I brought up the situation in this chart, okay?

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Of being slapped, all right?

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Now let's just see.

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Is being slapped an ideal situation?

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No, okay?

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But let's just say someone slaps you, okay?

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What would be, according to the Bible, the best response?

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What is Jesus saying you should do?

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If someone slaps you,

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is there someone who wanna volunteer

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and also no one's kidding?

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I mean, I'm saying someone walks up

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and just slaps you on the cheek, right?

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What do you do according to the Bible?

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What is the perfect will of God?

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What does the Bible say?

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It literally says to turn the other cheek

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and offer the other cheek to be slapped.

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I didn't write the Bible.

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That's what Jesus said.

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He said don't resist evil.

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He didn't say hide.

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He didn't say cover your face.

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He didn't say run away.

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He said offer the other cheek.

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Now at least Jesus is a little compassionate.

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He's like you don't have to get tapped twice

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in the same spot, right?

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He's like offer him a fresh wound.

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Offer him a fresh spot or whatever.

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But as he's saying, he didn't even say

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don't allow it to happen again.

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He said hey, let it even happen again.

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Don't resist not evil.

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Turn to him the other cheek also, okay?

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What would this mean?

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Again, obviously we have to take the literal interpretation.

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We could take application from this.

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What if someone came to you and said I need $20?

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I'll pay you back.

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And you give them $20 and they don't pay you back.

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And then they come to you the next day and say hey man,

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can I get $20?

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What is it, oh you would give them another $20.

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That's turning into the left cheek, isn't it?

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It's saying well, I already know he's not gonna pay me back.

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He didn't pay me back the first $20, right?

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I already suffered injury in this particular context

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but I'm willing to suffer injury again.

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Hey, I'm friends with this person

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and this person did me harm, this person did me wrong.

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I'm never gonna be their friend again.

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I'm not gonna hang out with them again.

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No, it says hey, allow them to harm you even again.

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That's what the Bible is saying, okay?

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But we can't also just ignore

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what would you do if someone literally slapped you.

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You would just say all right,

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well I'll even allow them to slap me again.

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Hey, I got another cheek if that's what is required,

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if that's what necessary, right?

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So ideally this would be that.

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What would be another step?

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This is not the perfect will of God.

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I think it's totally reasonable

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if someone slaps you to just say hey,

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please don't slap me again.

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Doesn't that seem like a reasonable response?

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But is that the perfect will of God?

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The perfect will of God is to turn him the other cheek.

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I think there's a lot of other stages in between here

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but I'm just trying to give you a suggestion.

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I would say even just saying don't slap me

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is reasonable.

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What would be the justice,

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what would be the legal ramification?

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Well, that's what he's saying here.

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Did you notice in verse number 38?

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You have heard that it's been said in eye for an eye.

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That's the just response.

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And if you go to the Old Testament,

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that's what it teaches.

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If someone slapped me,

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what is the lawful legal response

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to slap them back in the same way?

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Right?

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Slap for a slap.

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That would be the right response

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from a justice only perspective.

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But is that the best decision?

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No.

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It would be better to just said,

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please don't slap me.

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It would have been even better to offer the other cheek.

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Okay.

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So let's just say someone slaps you,

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turn the other cheek.

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Next best, just tell them not to do it.

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What's technically not a sin would be to reciprocate.

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Now go to Ephesians chapter four.

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Go to Ephesians chapter four.

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What would be crossing into boundaries

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of sin though?

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Well, what if someone slaps you

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and instead of turning to the other cheek,

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what if you decide to get bitter towards that person

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and hate that person

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and wish evil upon that person?

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Well, look at Ephesians chapter four

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and look at verse 31.

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Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor

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and evil speaking be put away from you

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with all malice and be kind one to another,

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tenderhearted, forgiving one another,

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even as God for Christ's sake has forgiven you.

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What is the right thing to do is to turn the other cheek,

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which would mean what?

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You're not gonna be bitter.

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You're gonna let it go.

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You're forgiving them, right?

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But what would be a sin?

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Holding onto that bitterness,

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being unforgiving in that particular situation

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and having a negative attitude towards it.

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So bitterness, hatred,

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or probably an escalation

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having a punishment that's beyond, right?

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They slap you, so you knife them,

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or you beat them down, right?

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You go like 10 times harder.

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It's like, if you slap me,

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well, then I'm gonna kick you in the groin.

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It's just like, whoa, that's an escalation.

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That wouldn't be justified.

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It's not justified to escalate

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and go above what they did to you.

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That would be unjust.

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That would be a sin.

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And if you physically injure them,

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their eye or whatever,

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now you cross the legal boundary.

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Now that's illegal

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and you would have to receive the same punishment.

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That's why you don't wanna escalate.

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You know, when someone slaps you,

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you don't wanna then punch them

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because then they kick you

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and then now it just keeps escalating,

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because it's just a vicious cycle.

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But if you do escalate,

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lawfully they get to match

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whatever your escalation is.

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So if they slap you,

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you poke out their eye,

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they lawfully get to poke out your eye.

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You know, that's why you don't wanna go down this road.

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That's not the best response.

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What was the best response?

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Turn the other cheek.

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De-escalation, resist not evil.

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And of course, Jesus, didn't he take a lot of evil?

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Didn't he get smitten

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when the Pharisees are accusing him of blasphemy?

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He's sitting there,

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they're asking him,

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art thou the son of the blessed?

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And he says, I am.

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And then they're smiting him,

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they're hitting him.

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Should Jesus have just sat there

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and punched back or hit back

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or ran away or whatever

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or told him to stop?

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You know what he did?

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He turned on the other cheek, didn't he?

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That's how Jesus was.

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That's how we would be.

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And then obviously,

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if someone slaps you and you kill them,

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well, now you deserve the death penalty.

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Because that's not a justified reason to kill someone.

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Now, if you are in fear of your life,

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you can defend yourself

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and if you end up killing them in the process,

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then it's justified and you're not worthy of death.

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But let me tell you something.

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If someone slaps you,

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you will be found guilty of murder, okay?

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Especially in God's law

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and you would be put to death

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for that particular scenario, okay?

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So again, I'm just trying to help

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with these different situations.

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Well, but what if it's your husband that slaps you?

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Well, why does that change what we just learned?

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Right?

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If your husband slapped you,

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is that right?

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I don't think so.

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I mean, again,

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we have to understand the context,

01:02:07.680 --> 01:02:09.420
but I'm just gonna say, let's just say it was wrong.

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Let's just say for sake of argument,

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what the scenario brought into the case was totally wrong.

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Okay?

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And I'll just be honest,

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I've never slapped my wife ever, okay?

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Honor, you know, face cheek, all right?

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That's good.

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It's a joke, folks, okay?

01:02:26.980 --> 01:02:28.480
Don't get too nervous, all right?

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I've never harmed my wife, all right?

01:02:32.940 --> 01:02:34.660
The worst punishment is tickling, okay?

01:02:35.940 --> 01:02:37.720
But I'm just saying, what if,

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because I don't have to only preach ideal,

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what about the people that live in the real world?

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You don't think there's never been a husband

01:02:44.740 --> 01:02:47.200
that slapped his wife, whether it be just or unjust

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or whatever your personal opinion is about that?

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Well, you know what?

01:02:50.560 --> 01:02:52.440
What would the wife do if she was gonna follow God's

01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:53.900
perfect will if she would turn to him the other cheek?

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Maybe she could say stop, right?

01:02:59.320 --> 01:03:00.660
Technically, according to God's law,

01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:02.560
she could just slap him back, okay?

01:03:03.060 --> 01:03:04.460
And we're talking about an unwarranted,

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unjustified slap or something.

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We'll be a sin escalating beyond that, though.

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And see, here's where it gets really testy

01:03:13.900 --> 01:03:15.480
and people lose their mind, they get really mad,

01:03:15.940 --> 01:03:18.440
is it's like, well, I think she should call the cops

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and get him arrested.

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Bro, that's way harsher than a slap, okay?

01:03:26.220 --> 01:03:30.060
And so, that would be, in my opinion,

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doing him evil, doing him wrong,

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and look, you bring the cops into your life situation,

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it's not gonna get better, okay?

01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:41.440
You wanna bring the cops in a situation

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that's a life or death situation that's extreme.

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That makes sense, okay?

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And no one's really arguing against this.

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No one's thinking that I'm being chased around

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with a ax or a chainsaw,

01:03:54.140 --> 01:03:56.740
and please don't call the cops or something, okay?

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No one's saying that, no one's ever argued for that,

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but again, we're saying, hey, there are people

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in a church like ours where they could even do

01:04:06.760 --> 01:04:08.440
some bad things, okay?

01:04:09.020 --> 01:04:10.860
Now, there's not people in our church

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chasing each other around with chainsaws and stuff.

01:04:14.680 --> 01:04:16.480
So you understand our context, our situation,

01:04:16.740 --> 01:04:17.820
our world situation.

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Oh, but what are you talking,

01:04:19.340 --> 01:04:20.400
what about these people that are doing

01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:22.320
these crazy, weird things that would never happen?

01:04:22.540 --> 01:04:23.720
Look, there've already been church discipline

01:04:23.720 --> 01:04:24.560
in those people, okay?

01:04:25.620 --> 01:04:28.080
Like, I'm not worried, what about this drug dealer

01:04:28.080 --> 01:04:29.800
that's getting drunk every night and beating up his wife?

01:04:30.140 --> 01:04:31.300
He's gonna be thrown out of church

01:04:31.300 --> 01:04:32.220
because he's getting drunk!

01:04:33.640 --> 01:04:35.200
What are you talking about?

01:04:36.060 --> 01:04:39.240
Okay, these weird scenarios that people dream up.

01:04:40.100 --> 01:04:43.120
But again, I will defend this guy and say,

01:04:43.200 --> 01:04:44.860
hey, what will be the perfect will,

01:04:45.140 --> 01:04:46.180
even if it was wrong?

01:04:46.600 --> 01:04:47.500
Hey, turn him the other cheek.

01:04:48.200 --> 01:04:48.980
Ask him to stop.

01:04:49.660 --> 01:04:51.180
Slap him back, you know?

01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:53.200
Call the cops on him?

01:04:53.200 --> 01:04:54.640
You know, hell no!

01:04:55.780 --> 01:04:57.260
Don't do that, okay?

01:04:57.380 --> 01:04:58.000
And again, that's my,

01:04:58.360 --> 01:04:59.920
I'm just trying to help you understand

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these categories, these situations.

01:05:02.780 --> 01:05:03.780
People lose their mind.

01:05:04.040 --> 01:05:04.960
People get mad at me.

01:05:05.740 --> 01:05:06.720
I don't care if you get mad at me.

01:05:08.140 --> 01:05:09.900
You know, that doesn't bother me.

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Go over to Colossians chapter three.

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For sake of time, I'm just gonna,

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I'm just gonna kinda quickly go through a few of these.

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But what if your wife disobeys you, husbands?

01:05:19.300 --> 01:05:22.240
What would be the best thing you could possibly do

01:05:22.240 --> 01:05:23.180
if your wife disobeys you?

01:05:23.600 --> 01:05:26.240
Well, the Bible says to sanctify her,

01:05:26.600 --> 01:05:29.240
to wash her with the water of the word.

01:05:29.660 --> 01:05:30.660
You know what I think the best thing is?

01:05:30.940 --> 01:05:32.400
It's just tell her that she's wrong.

01:05:33.420 --> 01:05:34.920
Just a verbal correction

01:05:34.920 --> 01:05:36.280
or just tell her what the Bible says

01:05:36.280 --> 01:05:37.800
or say, hey, please don't do that, right?

01:05:38.160 --> 01:05:39.520
Wouldn't that be the best thing to do

01:05:39.520 --> 01:05:40.540
if your wife disobeys you?

01:05:41.460 --> 01:05:43.440
What would be, you know, next would be,

01:05:43.660 --> 01:05:45.040
well, maybe you have to escalate

01:05:45.040 --> 01:05:47.480
to having some kind of a consequence for that.

01:05:48.300 --> 01:05:50.120
Right, it'd be ideal that you just tell her,

01:05:50.120 --> 01:05:51.820
don't do that, and then she just obeys, right?

01:05:52.500 --> 01:05:53.620
But maybe you have to escalate

01:05:53.620 --> 01:05:54.620
to some level of consequence.

01:05:55.240 --> 01:05:56.860
Obviously, highly disputed,

01:05:56.860 --> 01:05:58.000
and I'm not gonna preach about it,

01:05:58.100 --> 01:05:59.920
but highly disputed is CDD.

01:06:00.220 --> 01:06:00.940
Now if you don't know what that is,

01:06:01.040 --> 01:06:02.280
look it up at your own risk, all right?

01:06:04.320 --> 01:06:07.240
I'm not saying I advocate for that as disputed, okay?

01:06:07.680 --> 01:06:08.600
But you know what would be wrong?

01:06:09.780 --> 01:06:12.100
It's for the husband to be bitter against his wife.

01:06:13.140 --> 01:06:13.980
That would be a sin.

01:06:14.720 --> 01:06:16.980
It would be a sin to be bitter against your wife.

01:06:17.520 --> 01:06:19.300
And Colossians chapter number three,

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look at verse number 19.

01:06:22.700 --> 01:06:23.900
Husbands love your wives

01:06:24.410 --> 01:06:25.980
and be not bitter against them.

01:06:26.420 --> 01:06:27.420
Bitter implies there was a transgression.

01:06:27.500 --> 01:06:28.260
There was a transgression.

01:06:28.540 --> 01:06:30.820
Instead of harboring that and hanging on to that,

01:06:31.140 --> 01:06:31.940
you should let it go.

01:06:32.660 --> 01:06:34.540
Best is usually, just tell them at least.

01:06:35.100 --> 01:06:36.460
Now again, we should, as husbands realize,

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our wives are never gonna be perfect.

01:06:38.160 --> 01:06:39.660
They're never gonna obey us 100%.

01:06:39.660 --> 01:06:41.300
But you know what, for the most part,

01:06:41.960 --> 01:06:43.600
you know, women in a church like ours

01:06:44.130 --> 01:06:45.800
are the cream of the crop of society.

01:06:46.200 --> 01:06:49.280
You know, hopefully in 99% of situations,

01:06:49.980 --> 01:06:53.140
I mean, the verbal corrections always is gonna be,

01:06:53.580 --> 01:06:55.540
only thing that's necessary in theory, okay?

01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:57.940
Doesn't mean that she won't continue to screw up

01:06:57.940 --> 01:06:59.880
or do wrong or whatever or not be perfect.

01:07:00.120 --> 01:07:00.760
But it's just like,

01:07:01.020 --> 01:07:02.960
you probably don't even need to go down these other roads.

01:07:03.260 --> 01:07:04.380
But you know what, there are some people

01:07:04.380 --> 01:07:05.480
in some messed up situations

01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:07.000
and there are some pretty rebellious wives

01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:09.160
and you know what, I'm not gonna usurp

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the authority of the man and say,

01:07:10.180 --> 01:07:11.560
if he has consequences for his wife

01:07:11.980 --> 01:07:13.460
or has to go to a little bit more,

01:07:13.460 --> 01:07:16.600
a different measure that he's wrong.

01:07:17.420 --> 01:07:18.140
And I can defend him.

01:07:18.420 --> 01:07:19.500
Do I need to do that?

01:07:19.680 --> 01:07:20.960
No, have I ever done that?

01:07:21.140 --> 01:07:22.760
No, but you know what, at the end of the day,

01:07:22.840 --> 01:07:25.580
I'm not gonna get mad at guys for having to implement

01:07:26.100 --> 01:07:27.700
some kind of a consequence for their wife

01:07:27.700 --> 01:07:30.240
or some level of discipline, whatever that be.

01:07:31.160 --> 01:07:34.580
And again, when I use that word,

01:07:35.080 --> 01:07:36.700
I'm saying like telling her no,

01:07:37.880 --> 01:07:39.720
hey, taking away her social media account,

01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:41.000
taking away her phone,

01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:43.560
you know, whatever kind of thing that you would do.

01:07:43.680 --> 01:07:45.720
There's all kinds of things that people implement

01:07:45.720 --> 01:07:48.500
at their own judgment level, their own perspective.

01:07:48.700 --> 01:07:49.020
And you know what?

01:07:49.040 --> 01:07:50.460
I believe the husband is ever right to do that.

01:07:51.540 --> 01:07:54.520
If my wife was messaging other men on social media,

01:07:54.880 --> 01:07:56.600
you better believe that account's getting deleted

01:07:57.500 --> 01:07:59.140
by hook or by crook, you know.

01:07:59.820 --> 01:08:00.640
Something's gonna happen.

01:08:01.180 --> 01:08:02.760
Something about to happen, you know what I mean?

01:08:03.420 --> 01:08:06.400
Like I'm not gonna just sit there and be like, nay.

01:08:09.380 --> 01:08:09.740
Okay?

01:08:10.620 --> 01:08:12.640
Cause I just, you know, I'm jealous for my wife, you know.

01:08:12.680 --> 01:08:13.720
I'm not gonna allow that to happen.

01:08:13.860 --> 01:08:14.580
That's a bad idea.

01:08:15.240 --> 01:08:16.880
Just like if my kids did, it would be the same.

01:08:17.620 --> 01:08:17.760
Okay.

01:08:18.080 --> 01:08:20.220
Obviously, if you physically injure your wife,

01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:22.880
that would be illegal because the Bible says

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if you're knocking out an eye, a tooth,

01:08:24.480 --> 01:08:25.260
whatever, those are crimes.

01:08:25.820 --> 01:08:28.660
If you kill your wife, it's a crime.

01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:29.980
You should be put to death, all right?

01:08:30.940 --> 01:08:33.840
Children, if they disobey Ephesians chapter six,

01:08:33.840 --> 01:08:35.960
look at Ephesians chapter six, we're pretty close to there.

01:08:36.620 --> 01:08:37.640
What would be the best thing?

01:08:38.120 --> 01:08:39.600
Tell them to obey and they do it, right?

01:08:40.900 --> 01:08:43.680
Ephesians chapter number six, look at verse number four,

01:08:44.640 --> 01:08:46.360
and your father's provoked not your children to wrath,

01:08:46.740 --> 01:08:47.860
but bring them up in the nurture

01:08:47.860 --> 01:08:48.700
and admonition of the Lord.

01:08:49.220 --> 01:08:51.440
What's the perfect ideal situation?

01:08:51.700 --> 01:08:54.540
Your child disobeys, you say, hey, don't do that.

01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:56.300
And they're like, yes, sir, and they don't do it,

01:08:56.320 --> 01:08:56.480
right?

01:08:57.300 --> 01:08:59.240
But you know what, that's perfect.

01:08:59.580 --> 01:09:00.820
That's not gonna always be the case

01:09:00.820 --> 01:09:02.060
that they then obey and get it right.

01:09:02.060 --> 01:09:03.660
Sometimes you have to do something else

01:09:03.660 --> 01:09:04.560
that the Bible says, it's called

01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:05.740
bring out the rod of correction.

01:09:06.220 --> 01:09:08.720
Go to Proverbs 23, go to Proverbs 23.

01:09:11.640 --> 01:09:14.140
And the Bible says, as a commandment,

01:09:14.660 --> 01:09:15.800
thou shalt beat him with the rod.

01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:18.940
Look what it says, Proverbs 23, verse number 13,

01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:21.240
withhold not correction from the child

01:09:21.240 --> 01:09:23.460
for thou beatest him with the rod, he should not die.

01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:25.120
Thou shalt beat him with the rod

01:09:25.120 --> 01:09:27.240
and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

01:09:27.780 --> 01:09:29.600
The Bible says that we're supposed to punish them.

01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:32.940
So perfectly we can say, don't do it, and they just obeyed.

01:09:33.300 --> 01:09:36.460
But sometimes we have to escalate to a physical punishment,

01:09:36.740 --> 01:09:38.660
okay, and a physical discipline,

01:09:38.940 --> 01:09:41.600
which would be a beating with the rod.

01:09:42.060 --> 01:09:43.220
You could even have consequences.

01:09:44.180 --> 01:09:46.800
And in Deuteronomy 21, what's legal

01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:48.520
is if your son is a stubborn or rebellious son

01:09:48.520 --> 01:09:50.000
and will not harken under the voice of the father

01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:52.000
and mother, and after you chastise them severely,

01:09:52.700 --> 01:09:53.640
you could put them to death.

01:09:55.040 --> 01:09:56.160
Now do we wanna start there?

01:09:56.780 --> 01:09:58.880
No, we start with admonishment.

01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:00.960
If that works, we're good.

01:10:01.360 --> 01:10:02.600
If it doesn't work, hey,

01:10:03.100 --> 01:10:05.560
now we're moving on to beating with the rod, okay?

01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:07.060
Then we could even have consequences.

01:10:07.440 --> 01:10:10.860
Then it's like, hey, well, according to God's law,

01:10:11.140 --> 01:10:11.820
you could put them to death.

01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:13.320
We'll be wrong.

01:10:13.640 --> 01:10:16.680
We'll be an actual sin would be not spanking all the time.

01:10:17.700 --> 01:10:18.500
That's the real sin.

01:10:19.440 --> 01:10:20.740
Spanking is like here.

01:10:21.540 --> 01:10:23.980
Not spanking is here, okay?

01:10:24.340 --> 01:10:25.260
Don't get those confused.

01:10:26.120 --> 01:10:27.940
It's like, oh, this parrot spanks, he's a bad parrot.

01:10:27.940 --> 01:10:29.420
No, the bad parrot doesn't spank.

01:10:29.520 --> 01:10:31.080
Right, right, right, right, yep.

01:10:31.220 --> 01:10:31.460
Okay.

01:10:32.180 --> 01:10:34.260
Now if you cause physical injury,

01:10:34.820 --> 01:10:36.580
that would again cross this legal boundary.

01:10:37.380 --> 01:10:39.420
We're not saying we're gonna cause permanent damage

01:10:39.420 --> 01:10:40.700
or cause some kind of physical injury.

01:10:41.100 --> 01:10:41.420
That would be wrong.

01:10:41.660 --> 01:10:43.220
You murder your kids, Lindsey Clancy.

01:10:43.740 --> 01:10:44.620
You put to death.

01:10:45.180 --> 01:10:45.800
That's right.

01:10:46.140 --> 01:10:46.400
Okay?

01:10:47.500 --> 01:10:49.980
So what is, it's like, hey, tell your kids no.

01:10:50.740 --> 01:10:51.860
Spank them if you have to.

01:10:52.520 --> 01:10:53.940
If we live in a righteous society,

01:10:54.180 --> 01:10:56.040
put the really bad ones to death

01:10:56.040 --> 01:10:57.880
that won't listen to it, okay?

01:10:58.860 --> 01:10:59.740
Who's the bad parrot?

01:10:59.940 --> 01:11:01.780
The ones that won't spank and discipline their kids.

01:11:02.400 --> 01:11:04.600
And then obviously if they're injuring them,

01:11:04.720 --> 01:11:06.020
that's a penalty, that's a crime.

01:11:06.460 --> 01:11:08.000
If they're killing them, we put them to death.

01:11:08.480 --> 01:11:09.860
But we have such a backward society

01:11:09.860 --> 01:11:13.020
that we're giving millions of dollars to this person, okay?

01:11:13.600 --> 01:11:15.360
We're giving millions of dollars to this person

01:11:15.820 --> 01:11:18.160
and we're demonizing and making documentaries

01:11:18.160 --> 01:11:19.140
hating this person.

01:11:22.120 --> 01:11:22.820
It's insane.

01:11:23.200 --> 01:11:24.340
It's an insane world we live in.

01:11:26.180 --> 01:11:26.980
I'm out of time.

01:11:27.440 --> 01:11:29.140
But you could read the rest on your own,

01:11:29.280 --> 01:11:30.200
some fun reading.

01:11:30.900 --> 01:11:33.080
But again, first Corinthians seven says,

01:11:33.220 --> 01:11:36.080
hey, when it comes to a marriage relationship,

01:11:36.760 --> 01:11:38.340
you're supposed to show due benevolence to each other.

01:11:38.880 --> 01:11:43.380
Ideally, in a marriage, the door's always open.

01:11:43.620 --> 01:11:45.300
It's water burger, it's 24 seven, okay?

01:11:46.500 --> 01:11:47.800
In and out closes, did you know that?

01:11:48.900 --> 01:11:52.100
It's not perfect, water burger's 24 seven, okay?

01:11:52.400 --> 01:11:52.940
That's perfect.

01:11:53.400 --> 01:11:55.740
What would be next in line?

01:11:56.180 --> 01:11:57.380
Would be sometimes you have to use,

01:11:57.840 --> 01:12:00.320
it's a required level of romance or something

01:12:00.320 --> 01:12:01.380
for the door to be opened.

01:12:02.080 --> 01:12:05.520
It's like, well, I'm for a romance 100% of the time,

01:12:05.620 --> 01:12:06.840
but you know what, the door should always be open too.

01:12:07.480 --> 01:12:08.980
It shouldn't require it, but hey,

01:12:09.200 --> 01:12:12.520
if my wife required it, I'm gonna show it, okay?

01:12:13.160 --> 01:12:14.480
And is that perfect?

01:12:14.720 --> 01:12:14.880
No.

01:12:15.340 --> 01:12:17.360
How about if that was a problem in my marriage,

01:12:17.760 --> 01:12:20.520
make it a bargain, like hey, I'll rub your back

01:12:20.520 --> 01:12:22.120
or we'll go out to dinner or whatever.

01:12:22.620 --> 01:12:25.100
Now again, America, some women will use this

01:12:25.100 --> 01:12:28.060
as a weapon against their husband, wrong, okay?

01:12:28.260 --> 01:12:29.660
Don't do that, but I'm just saying,

01:12:29.820 --> 01:12:31.820
if I was in this situation, that's what I would try.

01:12:32.400 --> 01:12:35.020
Then there's duty over reluctance,

01:12:35.120 --> 01:12:37.940
hey, if it's been six months or a year

01:12:37.940 --> 01:12:40.140
and a guy just based in St. Adam,

01:12:40.280 --> 01:12:41.180
care if you're that interested,

01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:43.820
meaning to do this because it's our marital duty,

01:12:44.340 --> 01:12:47.080
I'm not gonna throw the guy in jail, okay?

01:12:47.340 --> 01:12:48.700
Some people wanna throw that guy in jail

01:12:48.700 --> 01:12:49.500
and they're insane.

01:12:49.900 --> 01:12:50.640
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:52.620
In the words of Cassandra McMurtry,

01:12:53.420 --> 01:12:54.500
if you have a marriage certificate,

01:12:54.740 --> 01:12:56.240
you already got consent, all right?

01:12:57.020 --> 01:12:57.980
So there you go.

01:13:00.380 --> 01:13:03.160
Hey, what would be a sin, ever telling them no?

01:13:04.420 --> 01:13:07.760
Or not doing it, or committing some kind of an adultery

01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:08.740
in your heart, right?

01:13:09.400 --> 01:13:11.360
But if you commit physical adultery, definitely.

01:13:12.740 --> 01:13:14.500
You know, and again, I don't need to necessarily

01:13:14.500 --> 01:13:16.120
go to the other one, but you could read it,

01:13:16.260 --> 01:13:18.500
but hey, what's the point of the sermon?

01:13:18.620 --> 01:13:20.100
The point of the sermon is we should realize

01:13:20.100 --> 01:13:22.100
that not everybody's in an ideal situation

01:13:22.580 --> 01:13:24.300
and not everybody's gonna do the ideal thing.

01:13:24.960 --> 01:13:27.260
So as a pastor, I'm gonna preach all these categories

01:13:27.260 --> 01:13:29.340
and I hope by this preaching this sermon,

01:13:30.120 --> 01:13:31.620
let this seek in a little bit

01:13:31.620 --> 01:13:33.500
so that when you're preaching you can try to think like,

01:13:33.600 --> 01:13:35.340
oh, where is pastor putting this?

01:13:36.300 --> 01:13:37.780
Hey, where is the Bible putting this?

01:13:37.900 --> 01:13:39.020
Where would I put this?

01:13:39.400 --> 01:13:41.760
And you know, we want, hopefully that all lines up, okay?

01:13:42.020 --> 01:13:43.800
I get that there could be some things that are disputed.

01:13:44.240 --> 01:13:45.600
And hey, if you think that I made a mistake,

01:13:45.900 --> 01:13:47.940
come show me, I'm not saying that this is perfect.

01:13:48.220 --> 01:13:49.340
I tried to do my best.

01:13:49.340 --> 01:13:51.260
I spent a lot of time trying to make sure

01:13:51.260 --> 01:13:52.800
that my categories were, you know,

01:13:52.860 --> 01:13:55.940
my placement was pretty accurate for the most part.

01:13:56.480 --> 01:13:57.840
But you know, hey, that's the goal.

01:13:57.960 --> 01:13:58.740
That's why we're coming to church.

01:13:58.800 --> 01:14:00.540
We're trying to figure out what does God

01:14:00.540 --> 01:14:01.500
want me to do in my life?

01:14:01.800 --> 01:14:03.420
Hey, what do I do in this sinful situation?

01:14:04.200 --> 01:14:06.160
What do I do to make up for this situation?

01:14:06.660 --> 01:14:07.580
That's why we go to church.

01:14:07.700 --> 01:14:09.280
So we're trying to figure out these things together.

01:14:09.680 --> 01:14:12.120
And we that live here, let's say you live here,

01:14:12.960 --> 01:14:15.340
don't sit here and get mad about the pastor

01:14:15.340 --> 01:14:18.940
talking about this guy or this guy or this situation.

01:14:19.260 --> 01:14:20.540
We all need the word of God

01:14:20.540 --> 01:14:22.580
and we all need our situations addressed.

01:14:22.860 --> 01:14:25.860
And I'm so happy for you and your perfect marriage

01:14:25.860 --> 01:14:27.140
where you've never fought

01:14:27.140 --> 01:14:29.140
and you've never called each other a name

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and you've never had a problem

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and your husband's a perfect leader.

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But you know what, for the rest of us,

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we want to know what to do.

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And don't get mad at us telling these people

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what to do too.

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And what their scenario should be

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and defending this guy and defending this guy

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and figuring out how to help those people too.

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Because you know, we should condescend

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to men of low estate and we should help everybody

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as best we can, except for these people, okay?

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We don't pray for these people, right?

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We get it though.

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We have the right categories.

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Okay, and you know what,

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realize there's gonna be churches that hate this list.

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You know, I want to go to a church

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that likes this list

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and is trying to preach this kind of a list.

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Preaching the, not just the ideal, but the real.

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Not just the ideal, but the real.

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Let's go in prayer.

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Thank you Heavenly Father so much

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for giving us the Bible

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so that we can understand how to live our lives.

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How not only do we make the perfect decisions,

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but what we do when we screw up.

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When we find ourselves in a rock and a hard place,

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when we find ourselves in a situation

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where we've been transgressed against,

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where we have problems,

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where we have issues where

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we don't like our circumstances.

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I thank you that you give us instruction,

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that you give us grace,

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that you help us to remedy.

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I pray that you would help our church

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to have a heart to want to know

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what the perfect will of God is

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and to try our best to achieve it.

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But also realize there's grace

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and to help those that are not

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making the best decisions

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and to love those people

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and to be patient with those people

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and that we would care what the Bible says

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about every scenario

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we wouldn't be offended in Jesus' name we pray.

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Amen.