WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:00.920 Jesus' name, amen. 00:01.520 --> 00:01.940 Amen. 00:02.500 --> 00:04.960 I'm finishing this evening a series 00:04.960 --> 00:06.400 that we've done on doctrine. 00:06.720 --> 00:08.760 So if you go to our doctrinal statement, 00:09.500 --> 00:12.300 at the very end it has a list of false doctrines 00:12.300 --> 00:16.060 and the last one listed was against Pentecostal oneness 00:16.060 --> 00:17.720 and modalism being exposed, 00:18.200 --> 00:20.300 basically being against our view 00:20.300 --> 00:21.680 and belief of the Trinity. 00:22.380 --> 00:24.620 I do wanna expand that just slightly this evening 00:24.620 --> 00:26.320 and I'm also gonna include a little bit 00:26.320 --> 00:29.040 about what I call the Catholic view of the Trinity. 00:29.580 --> 00:32.980 And I know this sermon's gonna be very doctrinal, 00:33.180 --> 00:35.240 but I am gonna try and make some practical applications 00:35.240 --> 00:35.800 at the end. 00:36.000 --> 00:39.220 So I do wanna just kinda quickly go through some points 00:39.680 --> 00:42.240 of why I believe in our views and of the Trinity 00:42.240 --> 00:43.620 and why their view is wrong. 00:44.560 --> 00:47.180 When it comes to Pentecostal oneness or modalism, 00:47.900 --> 00:49.880 essentially they just believe that God 00:50.400 --> 00:53.380 is a singular entity that manifests himself 00:53.380 --> 00:54.340 in different modes. 00:54.460 --> 00:56.300 That would be the idea of modalism. 00:56.440 --> 00:58.180 So there's not three separate persons, 00:58.660 --> 01:00.440 there's not three separate minds, 01:00.720 --> 01:01.960 there's not three separate, 01:04.500 --> 01:06.920 persons is really the best word we can use, 01:07.100 --> 01:09.180 three selves for their view of the Trinity. 01:09.340 --> 01:11.280 There's just one self that's manifested himself 01:11.280 --> 01:12.820 as a father, as a son. 01:13.380 --> 01:15.220 And again, when it comes to modalism, 01:15.300 --> 01:17.080 there's been times in past where they'd say 01:17.080 --> 01:19.520 he's only at one mode at a particular time. 01:19.840 --> 01:22.700 The most modern view, the Pentecostal oneness view 01:22.700 --> 01:25.300 or current modalism view says he can be 01:25.300 --> 01:27.040 in all three modes simultaneously. 01:27.040 --> 01:29.600 In many cases, some will even say 01:29.600 --> 01:31.700 that he's not even limited to these three modes 01:31.700 --> 01:34.340 and could manifest himself as Aunt Jemima, 01:34.560 --> 01:35.620 cook you up some pancakes. 01:36.220 --> 01:39.460 So there's definitely a lot of views here, 01:39.960 --> 01:42.260 a lot of different variations to some degree. 01:42.660 --> 01:46.060 But the essence is, is God really three persons, 01:46.240 --> 01:49.920 three distinct persons, is he really three selves 01:49.920 --> 01:51.720 or is he just this one entity 01:52.220 --> 01:55.640 that's just one thing pretending to be three, essentially. 01:56.340 --> 02:00.380 And of course, then the logical conclusion 02:00.380 --> 02:01.780 for these individuals is, 02:02.200 --> 02:04.940 have you been baptized in Jesus' name? 02:05.280 --> 02:08.000 Okay, and then they'll slap you around and dunk you 02:08.000 --> 02:12.080 and they will baptize in Jesus' name only 02:12.760 --> 02:15.100 because they don't believe that he's really 02:15.100 --> 02:16.560 the father, the son, and the Holy Ghost 02:16.560 --> 02:18.000 as three separate persons. 02:18.300 --> 02:21.280 So that's just kind of by way of introduction 02:21.280 --> 02:22.840 so we know what we're talking about. 02:23.120 --> 02:25.440 So let's see what the Bible says about God though. 02:25.440 --> 02:27.260 Look at verse four. 02:27.940 --> 02:29.320 It says, I have glorified thee on the earth, 02:29.440 --> 02:31.260 I have finished the work that thou gave us me to do, 02:31.440 --> 02:35.040 and now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self 02:35.520 --> 02:38.720 with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. 02:38.860 --> 02:40.240 Now I think this is a great verse 02:40.240 --> 02:41.460 when you're talking about the Trinity 02:41.960 --> 02:43.160 to explain a few different things. 02:43.240 --> 02:46.460 Number one, the Bible says that the father has his own self. 02:47.480 --> 02:49.160 So how could I read this verse 02:49.160 --> 02:51.600 and then say that they're not having separate selves 02:52.060 --> 02:54.200 when the text plainly states 02:54.200 --> 02:56.140 that the father has his own self. 02:56.740 --> 02:58.600 So it couldn't really get any clearer. 02:59.320 --> 03:03.020 And notice that the timeline that we're talking about here, 03:03.500 --> 03:06.580 he says thine own self, he says with the glory 03:07.160 --> 03:10.000 which I had with thee, notice this before the world was 03:10.000 --> 03:10.800 because some people will say, 03:10.880 --> 03:11.980 oh, well, let's talk about the incarnation. 03:12.900 --> 03:14.460 Like the father has his own self 03:14.460 --> 03:16.380 and then Jesus has his like incarnated self 03:16.380 --> 03:16.820 and that separate. 03:17.120 --> 03:19.220 No, he's talking about a timeline before the incarnation. 03:19.680 --> 03:21.360 He's talking about before the world even existed 03:22.000 --> 03:24.140 that the father had his own self and had glory 03:24.140 --> 03:26.600 and the son was with him and he had glory 03:26.600 --> 03:28.280 and they shared this glory together. 03:28.620 --> 03:30.440 So they have this similar glory. 03:30.600 --> 03:32.160 He says glorify thou me with thine own self 03:32.160 --> 03:34.680 with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. 03:34.760 --> 03:37.300 So he's wanting the same glory that he had 03:37.300 --> 03:41.460 that Jesus had prior to the creation of the world. 03:41.980 --> 03:43.620 And this couldn't really get any clearer. 03:43.700 --> 03:44.540 So what do we believe? 03:44.620 --> 03:47.780 We believe that God is three distinct persons. 03:48.320 --> 03:50.360 And one of the ways that we understand this 03:50.360 --> 03:51.900 is that they have their own names. 03:52.200 --> 03:53.340 Look what it says in verse 11. 03:54.760 --> 03:56.020 And I am no more in the world, 03:56.160 --> 03:59.000 but these are in the world and I come to thee holy father. 03:59.420 --> 04:01.260 Keep them through thine own name. 04:02.060 --> 04:04.820 Those whom thou has given me that they may be one as we are. 04:05.340 --> 04:07.600 If they're all the same entity, 04:08.020 --> 04:09.640 there's no distinction in persons, 04:10.440 --> 04:12.960 why would the son say this is thine own name? 04:13.540 --> 04:14.700 Like wouldn't it be his name too? 04:15.520 --> 04:17.600 Because if there's no distinction, 04:18.120 --> 04:19.960 then you can't have separate names 04:19.960 --> 04:21.380 and you can't say your own self. 04:21.560 --> 04:22.660 You can't say your own name. 04:22.940 --> 04:24.280 None of those things even make sense. 04:24.400 --> 04:25.140 It would be a lie. 04:25.600 --> 04:27.200 And of course Jesus is not lying. 04:27.520 --> 04:29.500 We're getting some of the most intimate details 04:29.500 --> 04:32.140 in John chapter 17, between the father and the son, 04:32.260 --> 04:33.160 how they love each other. 04:33.460 --> 04:35.340 Of course it would make their love a sham 04:35.860 --> 04:37.940 because it's just ultimately somebody talking about 04:37.940 --> 04:39.500 how much they love themselves apparently 04:40.080 --> 04:41.340 by their own logic. 04:41.920 --> 04:43.820 So really the gospel of John 04:44.240 --> 04:47.280 gives us a really good in-depth look at 04:47.280 --> 04:49.600 the distinction between the father and the son. 04:50.040 --> 04:51.880 And we see, hey, they love each other. 04:52.340 --> 04:53.440 They have their own selves. 04:53.820 --> 04:55.040 They have their own names. 04:55.380 --> 04:57.200 And of course when we include the Holy Ghost, 04:57.300 --> 04:57.800 it's the same. 04:57.940 --> 04:59.880 The Holy Ghost has his own self. 05:00.420 --> 05:01.840 The Holy Ghost has his own name. 05:02.280 --> 05:03.780 And of course there's love between 05:04.220 --> 05:05.780 the father, the spirit and the son. 05:06.000 --> 05:09.160 And so all of these attributes carry between all three. 05:09.360 --> 05:11.880 However, we're just emphasizing and focusing in on 05:11.880 --> 05:14.180 the two in this particular moment. 05:14.540 --> 05:16.060 But let's go to John chapter six, 05:16.060 --> 05:17.080 let's go back for a moment. 05:17.500 --> 05:20.280 And not only does the Bible say they have their own self, 05:20.560 --> 05:22.560 not as the Bible only say they have their own name, 05:22.920 --> 05:25.240 the Bible describes a separation of wills. 05:25.620 --> 05:28.460 And again, I'll go to John chapter six specifically 05:28.460 --> 05:31.880 because many times in other sections of scripture 05:32.380 --> 05:35.060 that clearly differentiate wills, 05:35.060 --> 05:38.140 they still try to have a weasel their way out of argument. 05:38.360 --> 05:39.900 So in the Garden of Gethsemane, 05:39.920 --> 05:42.280 when Jesus Christ says, not my will but thine be done, 05:42.680 --> 05:45.740 they'll say, oh well that's Jesus distinguishing 05:45.740 --> 05:49.240 between his quote human will and his divine will, 05:49.660 --> 05:53.500 which this is a weird way to interpret the Bible. 05:54.160 --> 05:56.620 The Bible never makes this distinction. 05:57.060 --> 05:58.820 This is something that they're bringing to the text. 05:59.300 --> 06:00.740 And it's coming from an idea 06:00.740 --> 06:02.400 of what they call the hypostatic union. 06:03.020 --> 06:06.120 And they'll say, oh well Jesus has these two wills 06:06.120 --> 06:08.380 fused together as this divine will and human will. 06:08.520 --> 06:10.100 And then they'll tell you which one he meant 06:10.640 --> 06:11.520 throughout the scripture. 06:12.130 --> 06:14.180 Whereas the Bible doesn't really make a distinction 06:14.180 --> 06:16.080 of will within the person of Jesus Christ. 06:16.200 --> 06:19.260 It's not talking about some kind of a bipolar experience. 06:19.560 --> 06:21.820 We never have that brought up in any kind of sense 06:21.820 --> 06:23.820 where Jesus arguing amongst himself 06:23.820 --> 06:26.520 or combating this in and of himself. 06:27.160 --> 06:29.820 So, you know, but why I go to John six 06:29.820 --> 06:31.960 is because from a timeline perspective, 06:32.450 --> 06:34.280 we're not even bringing up the incarnation 06:34.280 --> 06:36.660 and we're talking about a separation of wills. 06:36.660 --> 06:38.800 And so this totally destroys their idea 06:38.800 --> 06:40.860 that there's no such thing as separate wills 06:40.860 --> 06:43.000 when you look at what it says in verse number 38. 06:43.120 --> 06:44.280 It says, for this is Jesus speaking 06:44.280 --> 06:45.480 for I came down from heaven, 06:46.860 --> 06:48.560 not to do my own will, 06:48.900 --> 06:51.100 but the will of him that sent me. 06:51.660 --> 06:54.460 So again, I came down from heaven. 06:54.740 --> 06:56.260 That is prior to the incarnation. 06:57.400 --> 06:58.560 If he's coming down from heaven, 06:58.640 --> 06:59.600 he's not incarnated yet 06:59.600 --> 07:02.260 because the incarnation is being in Mary's womb. 07:02.760 --> 07:04.160 So he's coming down from heaven. 07:04.440 --> 07:05.920 And why is he coming down from heaven? 07:06.080 --> 07:07.460 He's giving you the motivation 07:07.460 --> 07:09.460 and the reason why he came down from heaven. 07:09.460 --> 07:10.960 Why did he come down from heaven? 07:11.280 --> 07:13.060 Not to do his own will. 07:13.440 --> 07:16.600 How is that even possible if there's only one will? 07:17.460 --> 07:19.320 It's possible because he's saying, 07:19.760 --> 07:22.360 hey, the father is the one sending me. 07:23.140 --> 07:24.860 If Jesus came of his own will, 07:25.320 --> 07:26.960 then that sentence doesn't even make sense. 07:27.380 --> 07:30.100 Yet the Bible says so many times 07:30.100 --> 07:32.340 that the father is the one that sent the son. 07:32.980 --> 07:35.720 So there has to be a distinction in wills 07:35.720 --> 07:36.740 for that statement to even be true. 07:37.320 --> 07:41.140 If the father is, if you just go somewhere 07:41.140 --> 07:42.360 and your dad didn't tell you to, 07:42.660 --> 07:44.080 that's not doing your father's will. 07:44.700 --> 07:46.140 If your dad says go somewhere 07:46.140 --> 07:47.680 and then you go, now you're doing your father's will. 07:48.140 --> 07:49.980 But there has to be a distinction in will, 07:50.360 --> 07:52.160 otherwise that statement can't even be true. 07:52.860 --> 07:55.660 So of course we have Jesus coming down from heaven, 07:55.880 --> 07:57.220 not to do his own will, but the will of him 07:57.220 --> 07:57.680 that sent him. 07:58.020 --> 07:59.880 And notice this in verse 39, it gets really clear. 08:00.400 --> 08:04.140 And this is the father's will which has sent me. 08:04.680 --> 08:06.240 I mean, how much clearer can you get? 08:06.780 --> 08:10.020 Hey, hey, this is what God the father's will was 08:10.520 --> 08:13.840 and he's sending me and it's not my will 08:14.280 --> 08:15.500 and it was his will. 08:15.860 --> 08:17.300 And that's why it came down from heaven. 08:17.520 --> 08:19.660 It just completely shatters all of their ideas. 08:20.380 --> 08:22.480 And of course then they'll just throw all these labels, 08:22.640 --> 08:25.440 you're polytheistic now, or you're tritheistic now, 08:25.540 --> 08:26.660 or you just throw all these labels 08:26.660 --> 08:28.440 and it's like, how can I be wrong 08:28.440 --> 08:29.760 for just quoting the Bible? 08:31.940 --> 08:34.000 Like you can call me whatever you want, 08:34.180 --> 08:37.480 Muslim and a Jew and every other criticism 08:37.480 --> 08:39.460 they wanna label you as, 08:39.860 --> 08:41.580 oh, you're bringing up ancient heresies. 08:41.720 --> 08:43.080 I'm just bringing up what the text says. 08:43.620 --> 08:45.680 The text says this is the father's will 08:46.260 --> 08:47.580 and the son has his own will 08:48.060 --> 08:49.500 and he's not coming down from heaven 08:49.500 --> 08:51.640 to do his own will, but the will of God. 08:51.820 --> 08:53.880 Well, but you just don't understand philosophy. 08:54.140 --> 08:55.700 Well, it sounds like your philosophy is trash. 08:56.360 --> 08:58.980 Yeah, I get that Greek philosophy 08:58.980 --> 09:01.900 before it was even introduced to Christianity 09:02.500 --> 09:03.680 believed in this one will. 09:04.120 --> 09:04.700 But guess what? 09:04.880 --> 09:05.540 They were wrong. 09:06.480 --> 09:08.180 They were wrong and so I don't, 09:08.240 --> 09:09.040 you know what I don't need to do? 09:09.100 --> 09:11.260 I don't need to marry Greek philosophy with the Bible. 09:11.840 --> 09:12.580 You know what I can do? 09:12.700 --> 09:14.820 I can correct Greek philosophy with the Bible. 09:15.400 --> 09:17.300 Instead of trying to marry the two 09:17.780 --> 09:19.840 so as to appease a Greek audience. 09:20.280 --> 09:21.980 Oh, it's surprising the whole world's Greek 09:21.980 --> 09:23.720 when the New Testament comes into play 09:23.720 --> 09:26.280 and so some people married the two ideas 09:26.280 --> 09:28.520 and came up with bad theology. 09:28.520 --> 09:31.600 And bad views of who God is because they're not safe. 09:31.800 --> 09:32.900 That seems totally reasonable. 09:33.320 --> 09:35.200 I wonder if, I don't know, maybe the New Testament 09:35.200 --> 09:37.980 warns me about philosophy. 09:38.640 --> 09:40.820 Oh yeah, there's verses directly saying 09:40.820 --> 09:44.060 to be warned of philosophy and tradition 09:44.060 --> 09:46.460 and man's ideas of who God is 09:46.460 --> 09:49.280 and how you can't find out who the true God is 09:49.280 --> 09:50.020 through wisdom. 09:50.420 --> 09:52.020 It's through the scripture that we understand 09:52.020 --> 09:53.900 who the true God of the Bible is, okay? 09:55.040 --> 09:56.540 So there's a lot to preach on. 09:56.640 --> 09:57.320 There's a lot to talk about, 09:57.320 --> 09:59.540 but I'm just showing very clearly the distinction. 10:00.080 --> 10:02.840 It says that of all which he hath given me, 10:03.220 --> 10:05.420 I should lose nothing but raise it up again at the last day 10:05.420 --> 10:07.940 and this is the will of him that sent me 10:07.940 --> 10:09.500 that everyone would see at the sun 10:09.500 --> 10:11.220 and believe it on him may have everlasting life 10:11.220 --> 10:12.480 and I'll raise him up at the last day. 10:12.560 --> 10:15.340 So again, we see this distinction of will. 10:15.840 --> 10:19.580 Now, I want to go to 1 John chapter number three 10:19.580 --> 10:21.860 for a moment, go to 1 John chapter number three. 10:22.900 --> 10:28.120 Now, I would say this and other authors 10:28.120 --> 10:30.120 and other people have said the same thing as me. 10:30.640 --> 10:33.860 You know, I could just quote what Matthew Henry 10:33.860 --> 10:36.480 in his commentary said 400 years ago 10:36.480 --> 10:38.320 on John chapter six, verse 38, 10:38.600 --> 10:41.200 and he said, not that Jesus and the Father 10:41.200 --> 10:43.100 have a competition of wills though. 10:43.860 --> 10:47.320 You know, yeah, Jesus may have his own separate will 10:47.320 --> 10:49.660 from the Father, but they're not in competition 10:49.660 --> 10:52.400 with one another and they're in perfect unity 10:52.400 --> 10:54.080 and they're in perfect submission. 10:54.320 --> 10:55.760 You know, the sun is in perfect submission 10:55.760 --> 10:56.660 to the Father's will. 10:56.940 --> 11:00.260 So therefore, you could argue they have one will 11:00.710 --> 11:02.920 and the sense that it's always perfectly aligned. 11:03.500 --> 11:06.020 You could argue that they have one mind 11:06.020 --> 11:08.640 in the sense that it's always in perfect unison 11:08.640 --> 11:10.400 and they have the same attitudes, 11:10.620 --> 11:13.100 the same ideas, the same vision, the same. 11:13.440 --> 11:15.720 I mean, in some senses it is the same, 11:15.960 --> 11:18.060 but what it's not is it's not technically 11:18.060 --> 11:20.700 and literally the same, we still have a separation. 11:21.120 --> 11:23.320 They still have their own set of consciousness 11:23.980 --> 11:27.120 and because of that, hey, there's a separation in wills. 11:27.440 --> 11:30.600 Now, when we look at first John chapter number three, 11:31.420 --> 11:33.380 you know, this is where people get mad 11:33.380 --> 11:34.780 at our particular view 11:36.100 --> 11:38.520 and I'm kind of differentiating again now 11:38.520 --> 11:40.580 from modalism into a Catholic view 11:40.580 --> 11:43.020 because we've already destroyed modalism. 11:43.140 --> 11:44.400 Like we don't even need to go anywhere else. 11:44.600 --> 11:46.120 Like we've totally just debunked it. 11:46.620 --> 11:49.300 Like hey, they have their own separate wills, 11:49.340 --> 11:51.580 their own separate cells, their own separate names. 11:52.020 --> 11:53.780 I mean, what else do you need at this point, okay? 11:54.660 --> 11:56.140 But then the Catholics will come along 11:56.140 --> 11:59.840 and they'll say, well, yeah, they're three distinct persons 11:59.840 --> 12:02.140 but person doesn't really mean person. 12:03.200 --> 12:04.660 And you're like, okay, what's a person? 12:04.920 --> 12:06.040 And they're like, well, a person 12:06.040 --> 12:08.240 is not what you think a person is. 12:09.540 --> 12:11.740 And you're like, oh, okay, well, then what's a person? 12:11.940 --> 12:12.900 Well, it's not what you think. 12:13.800 --> 12:15.400 I get that, but tell me what it is 12:15.400 --> 12:16.260 and they won't tell you what it is. 12:16.340 --> 12:17.820 They have no definition, okay? 12:18.380 --> 12:19.280 I'll just tell you, the Catholics 12:19.280 --> 12:21.420 have no definition of a person, zero. 12:22.040 --> 12:23.500 But you say, okay, then what's the difference 12:23.500 --> 12:24.560 between the father and the son? 12:24.860 --> 12:26.060 And they say, relation of origin. 12:27.520 --> 12:28.500 Like what does that mean? 12:29.080 --> 12:31.380 It's like, well, the son is begotten of the father 12:31.380 --> 12:32.760 and the father's not begotten 12:32.760 --> 12:34.120 and the spirit proceeds from the father. 12:34.840 --> 12:36.700 And you're like, okay, so then, 12:38.160 --> 12:39.720 what is the difference? 12:40.520 --> 12:42.420 And it's like, well, the relation of origin. 12:42.660 --> 12:44.020 It's like, well, Jesus doesn't have an origin. 12:44.020 --> 12:44.900 It's like, you're right. 12:45.880 --> 12:46.640 So what's the difference? 12:47.020 --> 12:47.860 It's just a word game. 12:48.700 --> 12:50.440 And then you're like, okay, then what's a person? 12:50.440 --> 12:51.580 Does a person have a mind? 12:51.980 --> 12:52.820 No, does it have a will? 12:53.060 --> 12:53.760 No, does it have a name? 12:53.940 --> 12:55.100 No, does it have anything different? 12:55.340 --> 12:56.300 Like, is there anything different? 12:56.480 --> 12:57.260 And they're just like, no. 12:58.440 --> 12:59.780 So there's nothing different. 13:00.220 --> 13:02.240 And you're just like, well, how is this not oneness? 13:03.040 --> 13:04.680 And then they're like, well, we say three persons. 13:05.260 --> 13:07.240 So it's basically, you take modalism 13:07.620 --> 13:10.540 and you just say three persons, now you're Catholic. 13:10.540 --> 13:13.920 Okay, that's really the Catholic theologian version 13:13.920 --> 13:16.920 of the Trinity is this divine simplicity, 13:17.600 --> 13:20.340 hypostatic union type of a theology 13:20.340 --> 13:23.300 that's mostly coming from St. Augustine 13:23.300 --> 13:25.560 and then revised by Thomas Aquinas. 13:25.740 --> 13:28.100 And again, Thomas Aquinas is in around the 1200s. 13:28.300 --> 13:31.560 And his view is basically just Greek philosophy 13:32.140 --> 13:33.760 with Christian labels, okay? 13:34.300 --> 13:36.260 And again, what is important about this 13:36.260 --> 13:38.740 is they believe at the root level 13:38.740 --> 13:41.640 that God is not a person, he's attributes, okay? 13:42.300 --> 13:42.820 So you want to understand, 13:42.980 --> 13:45.120 divine simplicity is the most retarded doctrine 13:45.740 --> 13:47.000 that makes no sense 13:47.500 --> 13:49.840 and it's very difficult to even explain to anybody. 13:50.140 --> 13:52.580 So I'm just boiling it down to what it really means. 13:53.040 --> 13:54.920 Divine simplicity just means God is attributes, 13:55.120 --> 13:55.680 he's not a person. 13:56.040 --> 13:59.140 So they'll say, God doesn't have love, God is love. 14:00.420 --> 14:01.440 What is it? 14:01.620 --> 14:03.340 God is love, okay? 14:04.140 --> 14:06.260 And then it's like, but then they'll say this, 14:06.540 --> 14:07.500 but God has no emotions. 14:08.360 --> 14:08.800 What? 14:08.980 --> 14:09.320 Wait a minute. 14:10.020 --> 14:13.180 God is love, but then God has no emotions 14:13.180 --> 14:14.000 and they're like, yes. 14:14.820 --> 14:16.440 What does that even mean, you know? 14:17.340 --> 14:19.080 And you start realizing like philosophy 14:19.080 --> 14:20.880 is the dumbest thing you've ever heard in your entire life, 14:20.920 --> 14:21.120 okay? 14:22.360 --> 14:23.960 They start philosophizing and then again, 14:24.300 --> 14:26.420 God is omniscient, okay? 14:26.620 --> 14:27.420 God is all knowing. 14:28.140 --> 14:30.400 So what they end up doing is they say 14:30.400 --> 14:31.700 and they say God is immortal. 14:32.000 --> 14:34.720 God is immortal, God is incorporeal, 14:34.960 --> 14:35.900 God is invisible. 14:35.900 --> 14:40.800 So he has no body, no parts, no emotions. 14:42.200 --> 14:43.440 And he's just like, what is it? 14:43.600 --> 14:44.120 He's love. 14:45.480 --> 14:48.220 What is love if you have nothing to love 14:48.220 --> 14:49.080 and you're not anything? 14:49.440 --> 14:52.580 Like love is something that's shared between something, 14:52.900 --> 14:53.200 right? 14:53.700 --> 14:54.900 Something loves something. 14:55.400 --> 14:57.680 It's silly to just be like, he just is love. 14:58.220 --> 14:59.440 What does that even mean? 15:00.040 --> 15:01.760 And again, they just make it where he's not really 15:01.760 --> 15:03.800 a person anymore, he doesn't really have a shape, 15:03.900 --> 15:04.760 he doesn't have a form, 15:04.760 --> 15:06.860 he doesn't have a place that he dwells, 15:08.300 --> 15:09.620 he's just attributes. 15:10.820 --> 15:13.100 Now this is why it's scary is because then they'll say 15:13.100 --> 15:15.220 since it's just attributes and one of those attributes 15:15.220 --> 15:19.400 is immortality, then they'll say that God cannot die, 15:19.560 --> 15:23.240 therefore, Jesus Christ, when he died on the cross, 15:23.620 --> 15:27.340 did not die in his divinity, he died in his humanity. 15:27.920 --> 15:31.280 And you're like, okay, what does that even mean? 15:31.900 --> 15:34.280 You'll hear things like the God part didn't die, 15:34.280 --> 15:35.400 the human part died. 15:36.020 --> 15:37.560 Okay, you're just like, what? 15:38.340 --> 15:39.800 Like what does that even mean? 15:40.560 --> 15:42.840 Okay, but here's the thing, what does the Bible say? 15:43.560 --> 15:47.700 Okay, well look at first on three, verse 16, 15:48.860 --> 15:50.980 hereby perceive we the love of God 15:51.560 --> 15:53.520 because he laid down his life for us 15:53.520 --> 15:54.880 and we ought to lay down our lives with the brethren. 15:55.180 --> 15:57.240 Doesn't the Bible say that God laid down his life for us? 15:58.420 --> 16:00.040 Well then why wouldn't I just believe that? 16:01.020 --> 16:04.000 Why wouldn't I just believe that God died in a sense? 16:04.340 --> 16:06.300 Okay, let's go to another verse, 16:06.380 --> 16:07.760 go to Romans chapter number six, 16:07.860 --> 16:08.980 go to Romans chapter number six. 16:09.500 --> 16:12.040 And here's the thing, you know, 16:12.140 --> 16:15.280 don't we believe that like our salvation 16:15.280 --> 16:17.460 was acquired to us by God? 16:18.220 --> 16:20.660 If God didn't die, then who died? 16:21.160 --> 16:23.500 And how is our salvation accomplished 16:23.500 --> 16:25.640 by a non-deity figure? 16:26.620 --> 16:29.280 Oh, okay, so then a non-deity figure 16:29.860 --> 16:31.260 was perfect and sinless 16:31.260 --> 16:34.840 and performed all these miracles and forgave people sin. 16:35.900 --> 16:37.260 It's like, well, that was the God part. 16:37.580 --> 16:39.040 It's just like, okay, but then the God part 16:39.040 --> 16:40.400 didn't die for our sins. 16:40.620 --> 16:42.880 Like, you know, it just starts making the gospel weird. 16:43.560 --> 16:46.340 And it makes Jesus weird and you're always slicing him up. 16:46.620 --> 16:48.440 And what's so silly about their little hypostatic union 16:48.440 --> 16:49.840 is they'll say, well, hypostatic union 16:49.840 --> 16:52.160 means that Jesus is 100% God, 100% man. 16:52.560 --> 16:53.720 And you can't separate the two. 16:54.020 --> 16:55.240 And you're like, well, that sounds good. 16:55.760 --> 16:57.380 But then they separate them all day long. 16:58.020 --> 16:59.460 So it's just like, well, do you even believe 16:59.460 --> 17:00.300 your own doctrine here? 17:00.920 --> 17:02.640 Because they're constantly talking about this God part 17:02.640 --> 17:03.400 and human part and whatever. 17:03.680 --> 17:06.040 If he's inseparable, then okay, that sounds good. 17:06.420 --> 17:08.640 But you know, I believe, and I think the Bible 17:08.640 --> 17:10.640 is really clear, that God is an identity, 17:10.760 --> 17:11.420 not just attributes. 17:12.020 --> 17:13.280 Jesus Christ is God. 17:13.900 --> 17:17.580 It's not like, oh, well, if Jesus Christ put on mortality 17:18.140 --> 17:21.480 and somehow is limited in his attributes 17:21.480 --> 17:23.860 through that experience, he's now not God or something. 17:24.180 --> 17:25.520 Jesus Christ is God, period. 17:26.100 --> 17:29.400 Okay, and they'll act like you're saying something blasphemous 17:29.400 --> 17:31.560 to say that when Jesus was on this earth, 17:31.740 --> 17:33.840 that he didn't have every single attribute 17:33.840 --> 17:34.820 that we attribute to God. 17:35.380 --> 17:40.080 But I'm gonna explain why that cannot be reality, okay? 17:40.500 --> 17:41.740 Now, Romans chapter six, 17:42.180 --> 17:43.360 look what it says in verse number eight. 17:44.360 --> 17:45.680 Now, if we be dead with Christ, 17:45.840 --> 17:48.160 we believe that we shall also live with them 17:48.160 --> 17:50.140 knowing that Christ being raised from the dead, 17:50.720 --> 17:51.760 dieth no more. 17:52.280 --> 17:54.860 Death hath no more dominion over him. 17:54.860 --> 17:57.980 For in that he died, he died unto sin once, 17:58.400 --> 18:00.280 but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. 18:01.080 --> 18:03.000 The Bible says that Christ died. 18:03.420 --> 18:04.500 Christ is the holy one. 18:05.000 --> 18:06.820 How are we gonna sit here and say, oh, well, 18:07.100 --> 18:09.920 God didn't die, but Christ did, 18:10.080 --> 18:11.320 so now Christ isn't God? 18:12.520 --> 18:14.960 Because when you start creating these ideas, 18:15.100 --> 18:17.540 you end up having a completely weird heresy 18:17.540 --> 18:18.980 that the Bible actually does talk about. 18:19.640 --> 18:23.000 Okay, to say that God died is not 18:23.000 --> 18:27.040 some kind of a sentence that the Bible contradicts. 18:27.040 --> 18:29.680 Of course, in verse the myth chapter number six, 18:29.820 --> 18:32.080 in other places the Bible talks about God being immortal, 18:32.780 --> 18:33.360 but you know what? 18:33.460 --> 18:35.100 We're talking about the father in those passages. 18:35.780 --> 18:37.460 And of course the father did not die. 18:37.660 --> 18:39.880 The father has never died and the father is immortal, 18:40.200 --> 18:42.480 but the Bible says that the son became flesh 18:42.480 --> 18:44.080 so that he could die. 18:45.000 --> 18:45.740 And you know what? 18:46.040 --> 18:49.140 Jesus was deity while in the flesh. 18:49.280 --> 18:50.600 He didn't cease being God, 18:51.140 --> 18:54.200 even though he may not have all the same attributes 18:54.200 --> 18:55.460 at that moment, okay? 18:55.820 --> 18:57.500 Let's prove the attributes argument. 18:58.460 --> 19:02.120 Let's go to, I think it's Mark chapter number 13 19:02.120 --> 19:02.680 is what I want. 19:04.160 --> 19:06.100 I'm trying to remember this one off the top of my head. 19:06.200 --> 19:07.240 I think it's Mark chapter 13. 19:07.340 --> 19:08.180 We'll find it, all right? 19:11.020 --> 19:12.760 Because again, what is one of the attributes 19:12.760 --> 19:15.080 that we of course know the Bible says about God? 19:15.980 --> 19:18.800 That he's omniscient, he's all knowing, okay? 19:20.120 --> 19:22.220 Omnipotent would be another one, that he's all powerful. 19:23.680 --> 19:26.180 Are we really supposed to believe that Jesus Christ 19:26.180 --> 19:29.500 was omnipotent and omniscient while on earth? 19:29.900 --> 19:31.680 I mean, why was he even learning as a child 19:31.680 --> 19:34.420 if he's omniscient, if he's all knowing, 19:34.560 --> 19:36.300 if he's all powerful at that moment in time? 19:37.560 --> 19:39.420 Look at Mark chapter number 13. 19:44.140 --> 19:46.020 Yeah, verse 32, the Bible says, 19:46.020 --> 19:48.300 but of that day and that hour, 19:48.720 --> 19:52.240 knoweth no man, know not the angels which are in heaven, 19:52.560 --> 19:54.440 neither the Son, but the Father. 19:55.100 --> 19:58.200 How can you be omniscient and make this statement? 19:59.520 --> 20:02.460 Okay, so now you're stuck in a really weird land 20:02.460 --> 20:04.040 if you're these Catholic people, okay? 20:04.540 --> 20:07.420 Because either A, Jesus is lying. 20:08.260 --> 20:09.920 Well, he was just talking about his human part. 20:10.420 --> 20:11.980 But that doesn't seem like a lie. 20:12.520 --> 20:14.560 If I was sitting here like, I do know the day and hour, 20:14.560 --> 20:17.460 but the Son doesn't wink, wink, you know. 20:17.980 --> 20:19.200 It's like, well, who's the Son? 20:19.560 --> 20:20.960 You know, like, what are you talking about? 20:21.920 --> 20:25.100 You know, it's just like, hey, do you know the day? 20:25.180 --> 20:26.740 It's like, no, I just don't know the day or hour. 20:27.440 --> 20:29.040 So wouldn't that just show that Jesus Christ 20:29.040 --> 20:32.540 had some limitations while in the flesh? 20:33.380 --> 20:34.340 That just makes sense. 20:34.840 --> 20:36.560 It just makes sense that he had some limitations. 20:36.920 --> 20:37.700 Let's prove it even more. 20:37.820 --> 20:38.980 Let's go to Hebrews chapter number two. 20:39.080 --> 20:40.020 Go to Hebrews chapter number two. 20:40.500 --> 20:41.800 But see, this is when they start saying, 20:41.860 --> 20:43.200 oh, you're teaching heresy 20:43.200 --> 20:45.000 because now you're making Jesus not God. 20:45.400 --> 20:47.060 No, because God isn't attributes. 20:47.780 --> 20:50.960 See, they try to get you to accept some faulty premise 20:51.520 --> 20:54.500 so then they can teach you a false doctrine. 20:55.040 --> 20:57.000 They'll say, God is attributes. 20:57.600 --> 21:00.260 He is attribute of all knowing. 21:00.560 --> 21:02.680 So then if you decide that he's not all knowing 21:02.680 --> 21:06.000 in some point in his humanity, that he's now not God. 21:06.240 --> 21:08.140 It's like, but I never agreed to that. 21:08.940 --> 21:12.700 Jesus Christ is God in identity, not in attribute, only. 21:13.660 --> 21:17.600 Obviously, when not in the incarnated experience, we get. 21:17.920 --> 21:19.260 Yeah, he had all those attributes. 21:19.400 --> 21:20.960 I'm not trying to strip him of those attributes, 21:21.220 --> 21:23.500 but hey, in the human experience, 21:23.600 --> 21:25.640 the Bible is not teaching he had immortality 21:26.200 --> 21:27.960 because that's the whole reason why he came 21:27.960 --> 21:28.760 is so he could die. 21:29.180 --> 21:30.860 Look at Hebrews chapter number two 21:30.860 --> 21:32.260 and look at verse number nine. 21:33.200 --> 21:35.060 But we see Jesus who was made a little lower 21:35.060 --> 21:36.600 than the angels for the suffering of death. 21:37.280 --> 21:39.560 Crown of glory and honor that he by the grace of God 21:39.560 --> 21:40.840 should taste death for every man. 21:41.380 --> 21:42.820 When it says little lower than the angels, 21:42.940 --> 21:43.460 what is it meaning? 21:43.620 --> 21:46.840 It's meaning by the body upon which he took himself 21:47.460 --> 21:50.660 that he's not at the same level as an angel. 21:50.900 --> 21:55.540 It's he's lower in the aspect of the composition. 21:55.840 --> 21:57.540 It's talking about the composition in the sense. 21:58.060 --> 21:59.340 And it's saying, obviously the angels 21:59.340 --> 22:00.500 aren't dying, apparently. 22:01.140 --> 22:03.380 So he's saying, hey, he's being lower than the angels 22:03.880 --> 22:09.040 in a mortal state so that we could also have resurrection 22:09.040 --> 22:10.820 so that the mortal could die 22:10.820 --> 22:13.620 so that then we could have sharing his what? 22:13.840 --> 22:16.300 Resurrection, he could die so then he could rise again. 22:16.440 --> 22:18.660 If he can't die, then he can't rise again. 22:18.940 --> 22:22.980 But he did die so that we could also die 22:22.980 --> 22:24.900 and be risen again with him, all right? 22:24.960 --> 22:26.460 So this is a really important idea 22:27.100 --> 22:29.460 that he was able to be putting on mortal flesh. 22:29.740 --> 22:31.000 First Corinthians chapter number 15 22:31.000 --> 22:32.740 talks about the mortal versus the immortal. 22:33.320 --> 22:35.100 And so we understand that mortality 22:35.100 --> 22:36.900 is the idea of you being capable of dying. 22:36.900 --> 22:39.260 One day we'll put on immortality, okay? 22:39.720 --> 22:42.000 But right now we are in a mortal body 22:42.000 --> 22:43.560 in a mortal flesh and we can die. 22:44.240 --> 22:47.080 Here in chapter two, it'll look at verse 14, 22:47.960 --> 22:50.120 for as much as the children are partakers of flesh 22:50.120 --> 22:53.320 and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same 22:53.830 --> 22:56.600 that through death he might destroy him 22:56.600 --> 22:58.580 that had the power of death, that is the devil, 22:58.880 --> 23:01.140 and deliver them who through fear of death 23:01.140 --> 23:03.640 were all their lifetime subject to bondage. 23:03.640 --> 23:05.820 So we're all in some ways, 23:06.400 --> 23:08.640 subject to the idea that, hey, we're gonna die one day, 23:09.020 --> 23:11.780 our bodies are mortal, we have a limitation, 23:12.240 --> 23:13.280 we're flesh and blood. 23:13.780 --> 23:16.580 And so Jesus Christ did the exact same thing. 23:16.940 --> 23:19.800 He put on flesh and blood, he was made flesh, 23:19.980 --> 23:22.100 the word was made flesh and dwelt among us. 23:22.500 --> 23:25.760 And of course in that state, the Bible makes it clear, 23:25.840 --> 23:26.480 hey, he's a baby. 23:26.980 --> 23:29.880 You know, we're not Muslims where we think 23:29.880 --> 23:32.200 after Jesus was born in Bethlehem's manger, 23:32.200 --> 23:33.640 he's like, hey, Mary, how's it going? 23:35.420 --> 23:38.040 You know, that's like a Muslim view, 23:38.360 --> 23:40.220 is that Jesus is having full sentences 23:40.220 --> 23:42.140 right out of the womb, okay? 23:42.700 --> 23:45.040 Because think about it, if he didn't lose 23:45.040 --> 23:47.680 any of his attributes, then of course, 23:47.980 --> 23:50.200 I mean, he could have spoke Mandarin to them, right? 23:50.540 --> 23:52.180 According to the Muslims, according to their view, 23:52.560 --> 23:54.240 he might as well just start speaking Mandarin, 23:54.840 --> 23:56.180 he could tell them anything and everything, 23:56.440 --> 23:57.660 he could do anything and everything, 23:58.260 --> 24:00.500 but wait a minute, that's just not 24:00.500 --> 24:01.660 what the Bible's teaching, is it? 24:01.920 --> 24:03.500 It's teaching he really became a baby, 24:03.920 --> 24:06.220 he really had to grow up, he really had to learn, 24:06.640 --> 24:08.380 he really submitted himself to his parents, 24:08.780 --> 24:10.900 he really experienced pain, you know, 24:10.980 --> 24:12.600 all these different things that he's going through 24:12.600 --> 24:14.980 so that he could know what it was like to be like us. 24:15.400 --> 24:18.060 So he could know what it was like being us, okay? 24:19.860 --> 24:23.200 I wanna look at, I wanna go to first John chapter four 24:23.200 --> 24:24.360 because this point's very important 24:24.360 --> 24:25.700 that he took on flesh and blood. 24:26.240 --> 24:30.660 And of course, some people that are heretics, 24:30.820 --> 24:35.980 of course, by all regards, not just we think they're heretics, 24:36.180 --> 24:37.740 Catholics think they're heretics, 24:37.840 --> 24:38.560 everybody thinks they're heretics, 24:38.800 --> 24:40.980 is people who would say that Jesus Christ 24:40.980 --> 24:43.280 didn't really show up in flesh and blood, 24:43.440 --> 24:46.500 he just kind of is an apparition or a spirit 24:46.500 --> 24:47.600 or something like this. 24:48.100 --> 24:49.760 And this is a anti-Christ spirit, 24:49.860 --> 24:51.700 look at verse John four, verse number two, 24:51.860 --> 24:53.080 hereby I know you the spirit of God, 24:53.580 --> 24:56.040 every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ 24:56.040 --> 24:58.740 has come in the flesh is of God. 24:59.120 --> 25:01.380 And every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ 25:01.380 --> 25:02.840 has come in the flesh is not of God. 25:03.140 --> 25:04.980 And this is that spirit of anti-Christ 25:04.980 --> 25:06.280 wherever you've heard that it should come 25:06.280 --> 25:07.500 and even now already is it in the world. 25:08.360 --> 25:10.780 So in some ways, people would deny 25:10.780 --> 25:13.060 Jesus Christ came in the flesh, 25:13.660 --> 25:15.780 I think in some ways they're just trying to say like, 25:16.000 --> 25:17.560 oh, Jesus came in a metaphor 25:18.320 --> 25:22.960 or Jesus came in a different way. 25:23.720 --> 25:25.340 And this is like, no, he really came, 25:25.760 --> 25:27.920 he was really born, he really died, 25:28.340 --> 25:30.680 he really rose again, anybody denying that 25:30.680 --> 25:31.920 is just an anti-Christ. 25:32.660 --> 25:34.400 And there was a literal anti-Christ, 25:34.700 --> 25:35.660 a guy named Tyler Doca, 25:36.420 --> 25:38.120 he did say things like this, 25:38.280 --> 25:39.740 he said that all of history was fake, 25:40.060 --> 25:42.280 he said that Jesus did not actually come, 25:42.700 --> 25:43.720 it was all a lie, 25:44.120 --> 25:47.340 and that he was the real physical manifestation 25:47.340 --> 25:48.100 of Jesus Christ. 25:48.580 --> 25:51.200 In fact, so much so that he took all the passages 25:51.200 --> 25:52.480 about the temple's measurements 25:52.480 --> 25:55.680 and he would put like a measuring tape to his head 25:56.140 --> 25:58.440 and he would try to show you how all those measurements 25:58.440 --> 25:59.560 were his head specifically. 26:00.360 --> 26:02.560 And he got like an alpha and omega tattoo 26:02.560 --> 26:03.900 on his face or whatever. 26:04.560 --> 26:06.780 Like he couldn't have been a more anti-Christ. 26:07.360 --> 26:08.080 Like basically it was just like 26:08.080 --> 26:09.320 reading the Bible anti-Christ, 26:09.480 --> 26:11.240 like taking notes like this is what I should do. 26:11.420 --> 26:11.860 Okay. 26:11.860 --> 26:14.420 But it's just crazy. 26:14.640 --> 26:15.940 And of course he said his biggest enemy 26:15.940 --> 26:17.140 is the new IFB, you know. 26:17.900 --> 26:19.600 Isn't that a coincidence, right? 26:20.320 --> 26:22.860 The most obvious anti-Christ that I've ever seen 26:22.860 --> 26:24.740 or ever heard of in my entire life, 26:25.560 --> 26:28.580 just happens to then call out our movement specifically 26:28.580 --> 26:30.320 and say that we're his biggest enemies. 26:31.200 --> 26:32.740 Like shouldn't that be noteworthy? 26:33.460 --> 26:34.980 You would think that's noteworthy. 26:35.400 --> 26:36.020 It's kind of like, 26:36.060 --> 26:37.100 it kind of makes me think of how, 26:37.400 --> 26:39.780 you know, I crush some graven images 26:39.780 --> 26:42.180 through our children at church or whatever 26:42.180 --> 26:44.720 and make a big deal about all these graven images, right? 26:44.800 --> 26:47.960 We smashed all of them and actually got a lot of attention. 26:48.160 --> 26:49.180 Millions and millions of views. 26:49.640 --> 26:51.340 I've gotten hundreds and hundreds and hundreds 26:51.340 --> 26:53.820 of Catholic emails, voicemails. 26:54.260 --> 26:56.840 They're all posting online about how I'm gonna be cursed 26:56.840 --> 26:59.680 of God and I need to be curb stomped and die and whatever. 27:00.400 --> 27:04.080 And then today, or maybe in the last 24 hours, 27:04.600 --> 27:06.080 because it was a different part of the country 27:06.080 --> 27:06.960 or the different part of the world, 27:07.020 --> 27:08.300 but I think it was literally today, 27:08.300 --> 27:12.360 a crucifix falls on a Catholic priest's head 27:12.360 --> 27:14.340 and kills him right away. 27:16.040 --> 27:19.860 He's like, oh, I'm cursed because I crushed a graven image. 27:20.160 --> 27:21.220 And then it's like, no, 27:21.380 --> 27:23.640 actually the Catholic priest is crushed by the graven image. 27:24.780 --> 27:27.800 Okay, I mean, a coincidence, I'm sure. 27:28.320 --> 27:29.980 I saw one of these Catholics said, 27:30.280 --> 27:33.060 this is the most dramatic death of all time. 27:34.240 --> 27:36.280 And I responded, I said, 27:36.280 --> 27:38.080 actually it was Jesus Christ dying 27:38.080 --> 27:39.140 in the cross for your sins. 27:39.940 --> 27:42.540 You know, isn't it funny that this person's 27:42.540 --> 27:45.680 washing a crucifix because what is a crucifix? 27:46.060 --> 27:47.420 It's a picture of Jesus Christ. 27:47.560 --> 27:49.260 It's like a literal 3D image 27:49.260 --> 27:52.580 of Jesus being on a cross, okay. 27:53.160 --> 27:55.180 And then the false prophet dies 27:55.780 --> 27:58.100 and they're like, that was more important death 27:58.100 --> 28:00.080 than the actual Jesus Christ 28:00.080 --> 28:01.400 dying on the cross for their sins. 28:01.700 --> 28:03.120 I mean, that should just go to show you 28:03.120 --> 28:04.420 that Catholics don't believe the Bible. 28:04.920 --> 28:06.040 They don't believe the gospel. 28:06.420 --> 28:07.520 They don't believe Jesus Christ 28:07.520 --> 28:08.900 died on the cross for their sins. 28:09.260 --> 28:10.740 And of course they can sit there 28:10.740 --> 28:12.200 and have a crucifix all day long, 28:12.400 --> 28:13.800 but they don't believe what Jesus did 28:13.800 --> 28:14.900 actually paid for their sins. 28:16.440 --> 28:17.320 It's crazy. 28:17.600 --> 28:19.140 It's crazy, okay. 28:19.720 --> 28:23.420 People can just deny just clear plain reality. 28:24.060 --> 28:27.140 And of course, you know, this anti-Christ, 28:28.060 --> 28:30.200 you know, calling us out is not a coincidence. 28:30.640 --> 28:31.600 I don't believe it's a coincidence 28:31.600 --> 28:32.680 that this guy died either. 28:32.680 --> 28:36.460 You know, you don't give all this love 28:36.460 --> 28:39.400 to these false gods through your idols 28:39.900 --> 28:42.400 and not get recompense, okay. 28:44.560 --> 28:45.980 Their curse is gonna turn upon them. 28:47.260 --> 28:48.420 I wanna go to Hebrews 10. 28:48.680 --> 28:50.000 Go back to Hebrews 10. 28:50.120 --> 28:50.960 Actually, no, no, sorry, sorry. 28:51.120 --> 28:51.620 Keep your finger here. 28:51.960 --> 28:53.320 Look at chapter five for a moment 28:53.320 --> 28:54.480 and look at verse four. 28:55.580 --> 28:56.260 The Bible says, 28:56.400 --> 28:57.940 for what service born of God overcome at the world 28:57.940 --> 28:59.360 and this is the victory that overcome at the world, 28:59.400 --> 28:59.880 even our faith, 29:00.340 --> 29:01.800 who is he that overcome at the world 29:01.800 --> 29:03.640 but he that believe that Jesus is the son of God. 29:04.240 --> 29:06.500 This is he that came by water and blood. 29:07.180 --> 29:08.200 Even Jesus Christ, 29:08.380 --> 29:10.300 even means specifically Jesus Christ, 29:10.880 --> 29:12.200 not by water only, 29:12.680 --> 29:15.000 but by water and blood. 29:15.540 --> 29:17.460 And it is the spirit that beareth witness 29:17.460 --> 29:18.520 because the spirit is truth 29:18.520 --> 29:21.080 for there are three that bear record in heaven, 29:21.200 --> 29:22.500 the father of the word and the holy ghost 29:22.500 --> 29:23.360 and these three are one. 29:24.020 --> 29:25.560 So again, what is the point here? 29:26.240 --> 29:28.600 The point is that Jesus really did come physically. 29:29.240 --> 29:30.700 He really had blood 29:31.260 --> 29:34.780 and that blood was really actually shed for us 29:34.780 --> 29:38.300 and that blood was applied to the mercy seat in heaven 29:38.820 --> 29:40.720 so that we could have the forgiveness of sins. 29:41.080 --> 29:42.760 The Bible says without the shedding of blood 29:42.760 --> 29:43.780 there is no remission 29:44.400 --> 29:47.000 and if Jesus Christ did not actually physically die 29:47.000 --> 29:48.240 on the cross for our sins, 29:48.600 --> 29:49.840 well then there is no remission. 29:50.340 --> 29:53.200 But again, the Catholic Trinity wants to turn all this 29:53.200 --> 29:55.120 into just non-deity stuff. 29:55.800 --> 29:56.920 A non-deity died, 29:57.560 --> 29:59.140 a non-deity's blood was shed 29:59.700 --> 30:01.560 and somehow this non-deity 30:01.560 --> 30:03.460 is just giving us forgiveness of sins. 30:04.000 --> 30:05.720 Well then why isn't it just the blood of bulls 30:05.720 --> 30:06.480 and goats at that point? 30:07.500 --> 30:09.740 If it's just a random fleshly creation, 30:10.420 --> 30:11.680 what's the difference between 30:12.180 --> 30:14.100 some other random fleshly creation? 30:14.560 --> 30:15.180 You know what's the difference? 30:15.340 --> 30:16.880 Because one's God and one's not. 30:18.560 --> 30:20.520 And it's not because of attributes. 30:21.320 --> 30:22.880 And of course, how can God die? 30:23.220 --> 30:24.400 Well, he has to put on mortality. 30:24.580 --> 30:25.680 That's how a dog can die. 30:26.040 --> 30:27.940 Obviously he can't die in his immortality. 30:27.940 --> 30:28.600 We get that. 30:28.840 --> 30:30.520 That would be a contradiction of logic. 30:30.860 --> 30:31.920 So how does it happen? 30:32.320 --> 30:33.780 Well, God has manifest in the flesh. 30:34.260 --> 30:37.420 But obviously, him being manifest in the flesh 30:37.420 --> 30:38.940 is a mystery to some degree. 30:39.320 --> 30:43.020 How can we explain the mortal was once immortal? 30:43.400 --> 30:46.200 How can we explain that a virgin can conceive? 30:46.880 --> 30:48.560 But isn't that just the whole point of the Bible 30:48.560 --> 30:50.060 that we have to believe some things by faith? 30:50.280 --> 30:52.860 Some things are a suspension of natural law. 30:53.040 --> 30:54.440 That would be called a miracle. 30:55.040 --> 30:57.560 Yeah, hey, God speaking the entire world 30:57.560 --> 31:00.400 into existence, isn't that sound a little bit interesting? 31:00.960 --> 31:01.900 How does that happen? 31:02.800 --> 31:03.340 I don't know. 31:04.080 --> 31:07.140 How is Jesus Christ the root and offspring of David? 31:07.760 --> 31:08.320 I don't know. 31:09.380 --> 31:12.780 How did Jesus Christ have this crazy family tree 31:12.780 --> 31:15.160 with harlots and weirdos 31:15.160 --> 31:18.440 and all kinds of crazy things going on in his family tree? 31:19.000 --> 31:20.340 I mean, you got one guy sleeping 31:20.340 --> 31:21.480 with his own daughter-in-law 31:22.240 --> 31:23.740 as Jesus Christ's own lineage. 31:24.040 --> 31:25.720 But he's the root and offspring of David. 31:26.520 --> 31:28.100 How does a virgin conceive? 31:28.820 --> 31:31.220 No one even has any idea how that could possibly happen. 31:31.760 --> 31:33.280 How can the immortal put on immortal? 31:33.360 --> 31:33.880 We don't know. 31:34.220 --> 31:35.840 But you know what, this is what the Bible teaches. 31:36.920 --> 31:37.920 This is what the Bible says. 31:38.420 --> 31:41.580 And why would it be so difficult for me to believe 31:41.580 --> 31:43.740 that God can speak the entire world into existence 31:43.740 --> 31:46.100 but he can't turn himself into immortal? 31:46.460 --> 31:48.340 Like, that was a bridge too far? 31:49.000 --> 31:50.680 The bridge too far was not that he spoke 31:50.680 --> 31:51.800 the entire world into existence. 31:51.980 --> 31:53.400 The bridge too far was that he could then 31:53.400 --> 31:54.740 somehow enter his own creation. 31:55.280 --> 31:58.140 Like, that seems a lot more reasonable, you know, 31:58.240 --> 31:59.740 of a suspension of natural law 31:59.740 --> 32:01.420 than your version anyways, okay? 32:01.940 --> 32:05.240 So, hey, but do I, can I prove these things 32:05.240 --> 32:06.500 with scientific experiments? 32:06.740 --> 32:08.600 No, but you know what, I believe them by faith. 32:10.360 --> 32:12.340 And without faith is impossible to please them. 32:12.400 --> 32:13.820 Without faith, you can't even be saved anyways. 32:14.480 --> 32:15.540 Now, of course, we have the Trinity 32:15.540 --> 32:16.920 being mentioned here in verse seven, 32:17.100 --> 32:18.640 very clear verse taken out of a lot of Bibles. 32:19.320 --> 32:21.480 But notice there's three that bear a record of it. 32:21.500 --> 32:22.600 Not one, there's three. 32:23.540 --> 32:26.080 And what would be the point of all three 32:26.080 --> 32:27.460 of those with the exact same witness? 32:28.140 --> 32:31.200 Then there's not really any distinction here. 32:31.700 --> 32:32.680 And notice in verse eight, 32:32.840 --> 32:34.160 and there are three that bear witness in earth, 32:34.300 --> 32:35.920 the spirit and the water and the blood 32:35.920 --> 32:36.640 and these three are getting one. 32:36.940 --> 32:38.640 Are those three things the exact same? 32:39.580 --> 32:41.760 Why would the parallel example 32:41.760 --> 32:43.580 be of three separate things 32:43.580 --> 32:45.860 if the previous example was all the same? 32:46.760 --> 32:48.380 I mean, the spirit's different than the water 32:48.380 --> 32:49.900 and the water's different than the blood 32:49.900 --> 32:51.300 and the blood's different than the spirit. 32:51.860 --> 32:53.400 And it's like these are three witnesses, 32:53.820 --> 32:55.160 but yet they agree in one. 32:55.700 --> 32:57.060 And again, that's the whole point. 32:57.240 --> 33:00.120 It's not that these three are secretly one 33:00.120 --> 33:00.920 and you didn't know it, 33:01.200 --> 33:02.620 one means unity in the Bible. 33:03.200 --> 33:04.480 Because in John chapter 17, 33:04.560 --> 33:06.360 which we read for the beginning of our sermon, 33:06.920 --> 33:09.100 it clearly says that Jesus wants us 33:09.100 --> 33:10.780 to be one with them as they are one. 33:11.360 --> 33:12.460 So are we now God? 33:13.160 --> 33:15.040 No, he's saying he wants us to be in unity. 33:15.280 --> 33:17.640 He wants us to have the same viewpoint, 33:18.120 --> 33:19.920 the same attitude, the same doctrine. 33:20.380 --> 33:23.080 He wants us to be one and unified with him, 33:23.500 --> 33:25.600 not that we're gonna become him, 33:25.940 --> 33:28.440 not that we're gonna turn into transformers 33:28.440 --> 33:29.860 and become one big transformer, 33:30.320 --> 33:31.640 not that we're gonna get our rings together 33:31.640 --> 33:33.060 and summon Captain Planet. 33:33.540 --> 33:35.160 No, what we're talking about 33:35.160 --> 33:37.880 is that we're unified in purpose, 33:38.100 --> 33:39.160 we're unified in doctrine, 33:39.380 --> 33:41.960 we're unified in will and what we want to do. 33:42.360 --> 33:44.420 That's what we're talking about here, okay? 33:45.340 --> 33:46.720 Becoming one in that sense. 33:46.940 --> 33:48.140 So the Father of the Word and the Holy Ghost, 33:48.260 --> 33:49.400 these three are one in what sense? 33:49.400 --> 33:51.740 That they all bear the exact same record in heaven. 33:52.040 --> 33:54.360 The Father has the exact same record of the Gospel, 33:54.920 --> 33:57.660 Lord Jesus Christ has the exact same record of the Gospel, 33:58.120 --> 34:00.360 the Holy Spirit has the exact same record of the Gospel. 34:00.800 --> 34:05.180 The Spirit on this earth has the same record, 34:05.500 --> 34:07.640 the blood has the exact same record, 34:07.940 --> 34:09.880 the water has the exact same record. 34:10.120 --> 34:13.840 It's saying all points of evidence are lining up 34:13.840 --> 34:15.300 and they have the exact same story, 34:15.660 --> 34:17.000 the exact same message, 34:17.000 --> 34:20.060 the exact same, notice this word, record, okay? 34:20.320 --> 34:23.080 Did you notice that it says specifically in verse seven, 34:23.440 --> 34:25.420 bear record, right? 34:25.960 --> 34:27.980 Bear record and then look at verse 11. 34:28.340 --> 34:29.640 And this is the record. 34:30.300 --> 34:32.640 Hey, you wanna know what record the Father gives 34:32.640 --> 34:35.160 and the Word gives and the Holy Ghost gives? 34:35.340 --> 34:36.780 You wanna know what that record is 34:36.780 --> 34:38.780 and this is the record that God has given to us 34:38.780 --> 34:40.900 eternal life and this life is in His Son. 34:41.440 --> 34:42.600 He that hath the Son hath life 34:42.600 --> 34:44.500 and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life, 34:44.760 --> 34:46.100 these things have I written on you 34:46.100 --> 34:47.460 that believe on the name of the Son of God 34:47.460 --> 34:49.580 that you may know that you have eternal life. 34:49.720 --> 34:51.440 How do I know that I have eternal life 34:51.440 --> 34:53.960 because of the record that God gave of His Son? 34:55.200 --> 34:57.340 And that record is contained here in the Word 34:57.930 --> 34:59.900 and the Word has that same message, 35:00.200 --> 35:02.160 whether I read it in heaven or on earth, 35:02.460 --> 35:03.680 whether I hear it from the Father 35:03.680 --> 35:05.440 or from the Spirit or from the Son, 35:05.720 --> 35:07.980 it's all the exact same record, it's all one. 35:08.380 --> 35:10.800 It's the same Gospel, it's completely unified. 35:11.200 --> 35:13.480 But is this saying that there's not three 35:13.480 --> 35:15.840 distinct persons, that wouldn't even make sense, 35:15.840 --> 35:17.580 the whole point is that there's a multiplicity 35:17.580 --> 35:18.520 giving the same record? 35:19.480 --> 35:20.860 Okay, that's the whole point, 35:21.080 --> 35:22.540 that's the whole emphasis that we have. 35:23.080 --> 35:25.860 And so again, God is not just attributes, 35:26.100 --> 35:26.940 God is a person. 35:27.540 --> 35:29.580 He is, hey, the Father is a person, 35:29.700 --> 35:31.900 the Son is a person, the Holy Spirit is a person. 35:32.560 --> 35:37.040 They have personal pronouns, they have personal names, 35:37.380 --> 35:39.020 they have personal selves. 35:40.080 --> 35:41.960 So we understand there's a difference 35:41.960 --> 35:44.140 and separate minds as the Bible describes. 35:44.140 --> 35:45.720 I was going to John chapter 16 now, 35:45.820 --> 35:46.800 I'll go to John chapter 16. 35:49.900 --> 35:51.120 So what do we learn so far? 35:51.220 --> 35:53.080 Number one, they have, there's three persons 35:53.080 --> 35:54.500 because they have their own selves, 35:54.980 --> 35:58.180 they have their own names, they have their own wills. 35:59.740 --> 36:02.500 And think about it, if the Son died, 36:02.640 --> 36:04.740 which I would contest, I've showed clearly in the Bible, 36:04.880 --> 36:07.060 that would be a difference between the immortal God, 36:07.260 --> 36:08.660 the Father, and the Son, 36:08.740 --> 36:10.860 because the Father did not die and the Son did die, 36:11.440 --> 36:12.820 meaning that they're separate again. 36:13.350 --> 36:15.420 Here would be another one is the separation of minds. 36:15.640 --> 36:18.080 Look at John chapter 16 in verse number seven. 36:18.340 --> 36:19.740 This is talking about the Holy Ghost. 36:21.600 --> 36:22.940 Nevertheless, I tell you the truth 36:22.940 --> 36:24.760 that is expedient for you that I go away, 36:24.900 --> 36:27.320 for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you, 36:27.600 --> 36:29.700 but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 36:30.040 --> 36:33.620 How is this possible from a oneness theology 36:34.220 --> 36:35.960 if the Spirit is Jesus? 36:37.220 --> 36:40.480 Hey, you can't have me unless I go away. 36:40.900 --> 36:42.040 Then you can have me. 36:42.040 --> 36:43.160 It's just like, well, wait a minute. 36:43.900 --> 36:45.000 That doesn't even make sense. 36:45.120 --> 36:45.600 You're already here. 36:46.420 --> 36:49.060 Like, hey, you can't have Pastor Shelley 36:50.080 --> 36:51.860 until Brother Shelley shows up. 36:52.640 --> 36:53.440 You know, if it's the Brother Shelley 36:53.440 --> 36:54.600 wanting to show up until I leave. 36:55.320 --> 36:56.920 You're like, what does that even mean? 36:58.300 --> 36:59.980 Are you like Superman, Clark Kent? 37:00.220 --> 37:01.300 You know, like what's going on? 37:02.100 --> 37:04.400 Like Superman can't show up unless Clark Kent goes away. 37:05.060 --> 37:05.360 Okay. 37:05.840 --> 37:08.160 But it's like Lois Lane's like, you're the same person. 37:08.820 --> 37:09.220 Okay. 37:09.580 --> 37:10.820 That's weird, aren't you still Superman? 37:10.820 --> 37:12.680 That's why she pulls out a gun and shoots him. 37:13.240 --> 37:14.880 Cause she believes he's really Superman. 37:15.060 --> 37:16.060 I mean, I don't know if you've seen the movie or not. 37:16.200 --> 37:16.260 Okay. 37:17.120 --> 37:18.840 Lois Lane shoots Clark Kent 37:18.840 --> 37:21.720 because she believes that he's Superman so much so. 37:22.460 --> 37:22.980 And guess what? 37:23.520 --> 37:25.240 Clark Kent doesn't die cause he's Superman. 37:26.480 --> 37:28.820 But it's weird to sit here and say like, 37:28.960 --> 37:30.600 hey, oh, you can't have the Comforter 37:30.600 --> 37:32.540 unless I go away when they're the same person. 37:33.280 --> 37:34.020 You know what makes sense? 37:34.120 --> 37:34.920 They're not the same person. 37:35.980 --> 37:36.960 Okay, it's that simple. 37:37.820 --> 37:38.660 Look at verse 13. 37:39.100 --> 37:41.640 How be it when he, the spirit of truth has come, 37:41.780 --> 37:42.840 he will guide you into all truth 37:42.840 --> 37:44.400 for he shall not speak of himself. 37:45.020 --> 37:47.620 But whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak 37:47.620 --> 37:48.980 and he will show you things to come. 37:49.240 --> 37:51.080 How can the spirit not speak of himself 37:51.740 --> 37:53.420 if it's all again the same person? 37:53.700 --> 37:54.780 None of that makes any sense. 37:55.440 --> 37:56.200 And I'll be honest with you, 37:56.300 --> 37:58.880 that is the first time I ever got questioned 37:58.880 --> 38:01.160 on if I believed modalism or even heard about it. 38:01.320 --> 38:02.640 This is the first verse I went to. 38:03.140 --> 38:05.340 I said, how could they all be the same person 38:05.340 --> 38:07.120 if the spirit does not speak of himself? 38:08.040 --> 38:09.000 Because it's just like, 38:09.180 --> 38:10.980 that's the Holy Spirit saying like, 38:11.120 --> 38:13.240 hey buddy, let me remind you 38:13.240 --> 38:14.540 what the Bible actually says. 38:15.420 --> 38:16.560 I didn't even know, when someone said like, 38:16.640 --> 38:17.300 do you know what modalism? 38:17.300 --> 38:18.420 And I said, I don't even know what it is. 38:18.840 --> 38:20.240 And they're like, oh, it's all the same person. 38:20.380 --> 38:21.840 Jesus is the Father, Jesus is the Holy Spirit. 38:22.060 --> 38:23.440 It's like, well, how does that work 38:23.440 --> 38:24.820 since the Holy Ghost doesn't speak of himself? 38:25.560 --> 38:27.680 You know, it's like case in point, it's over. 38:28.080 --> 38:29.700 Okay, you've already debunked it. 38:30.520 --> 38:32.520 And again, doesn't this kind of illustrate 38:32.520 --> 38:33.460 they have separate locations? 38:34.400 --> 38:36.760 Like, how is he gonna be there simultaneously? 38:37.240 --> 38:37.680 He's the same person. 38:37.760 --> 38:38.880 He's like, hey, I gotta go away 38:38.880 --> 38:40.620 so the other one could show up. 38:41.060 --> 38:42.900 That kind of shows they're in separate locations, 38:43.020 --> 38:43.400 doesn't it? 38:44.620 --> 38:45.640 How about Matthew three? 38:46.180 --> 38:48.560 When there it's like, you have the sun and the water, 38:49.000 --> 38:50.440 you have the spirit descending like a dove, 38:50.620 --> 38:51.420 and you have a voice from heaven. 38:51.520 --> 38:52.420 Isn't that three separate locations? 38:53.100 --> 38:53.960 How about Genesis one? 38:54.080 --> 38:54.700 Go there for a moment. 38:54.940 --> 38:56.320 Let's look at the more separate locations. 38:56.640 --> 38:58.200 In the Old Testament, priority incarnation. 39:02.820 --> 39:06.200 Again, they'll say, well, God is incorporeal. 39:06.540 --> 39:08.320 I guess it depends on what we wanna say there. 39:08.660 --> 39:11.860 Obviously, I don't think that he's got some mortal body 39:11.860 --> 39:14.700 like we do, that's not reality, okay? 39:15.280 --> 39:16.540 And obviously prior to creation, 39:17.100 --> 39:20.180 he's not a created being, so that can't really exist. 39:20.280 --> 39:22.740 But the Bible describes the spirit as moving. 39:23.280 --> 39:25.060 Like what it says in Genesis one, verse two, 39:25.140 --> 39:26.280 and the earth was out form and void 39:26.280 --> 39:27.600 and darkness was upon the face of the deep. 39:27.600 --> 39:30.920 And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 39:31.840 --> 39:33.520 Well, how the heck is something moving 39:33.520 --> 39:36.220 that doesn't even have any kind of physical body or anything? 39:36.980 --> 39:41.680 And again, maybe it's not physical in our realm of reality, 39:41.980 --> 39:43.460 but it's gotta have something to move. 39:44.060 --> 39:44.940 I mean, what's moving? 39:46.280 --> 39:47.000 Nothing's moving? 39:48.340 --> 39:50.100 Yes, something's moving here, okay? 39:50.520 --> 39:53.680 And it makes sense that in verse 28 or verse 27, 39:53.760 --> 39:55.400 so God created man in his own image 39:55.400 --> 39:57.240 and the image of God created he, him, 39:57.660 --> 39:59.000 man, feel him out, created he, them. 39:59.900 --> 40:00.960 Verse 26, and God said, 40:01.120 --> 40:03.220 let us make man in our image after our likeness. 40:03.520 --> 40:04.320 Who's the hour there? 40:04.600 --> 40:05.360 Yeah, I'm ready, yeah. 40:06.140 --> 40:10.020 Oh, well, you're just creating a multiplicity. 40:10.240 --> 40:11.500 No, the Bible is bringing it up 40:11.500 --> 40:14.600 in the first chapter of the first book. 40:14.960 --> 40:16.100 You've got a spirit moving, 40:16.940 --> 40:18.480 you've got something saying hour, 40:19.240 --> 40:22.560 God saying hour, there's somehow sharing 40:22.560 --> 40:25.240 and he's making something that's looking like him 40:25.660 --> 40:27.980 and then it's like, we look like this 40:27.980 --> 40:30.520 and he's saying, hey, man's made it in his image, 40:30.660 --> 40:31.140 woman's not. 40:31.420 --> 40:32.860 That sounds like he doesn't look like a woman. 40:33.760 --> 40:36.200 So then why is every Catholic version of Jesus 40:36.200 --> 40:37.560 got long hair like a woman? 40:38.880 --> 40:40.480 Cause it's not what he looks like, okay? 40:42.040 --> 40:43.500 So we've looked at a lot of different things, 40:43.620 --> 40:44.140 these separate locations. 40:44.220 --> 40:45.620 There's gonna be one more, go to Genesis 19. 40:47.080 --> 40:48.140 Let's see this as well. 40:52.560 --> 40:55.280 And of course, some people just don't care about this, 40:55.360 --> 40:56.340 they never wanna talk about it. 40:57.500 --> 41:01.080 You don't have to go this deep to serve God, 41:01.600 --> 41:02.780 but you know what, why wouldn't we wanna have 41:02.780 --> 41:03.620 the right doctrine anyways? 41:04.480 --> 41:06.820 And when you do actually try to think 41:06.820 --> 41:07.960 and figure out these things, 41:08.020 --> 41:09.440 just start realizing, oh, the Catholic Church 41:09.440 --> 41:10.140 is wrong on everything. 41:11.680 --> 41:13.940 They can say trinity until they're blue in the face, 41:14.020 --> 41:16.740 but many times when you really tie them down, 41:16.860 --> 41:18.700 they kinda believe in like a oneness version 41:18.700 --> 41:20.220 of God anyways. 41:20.860 --> 41:21.860 Make sense, they're not saved. 41:21.860 --> 41:25.440 Genesis chapter 19, this is when God 41:25.440 --> 41:27.240 is destroying Sodom and Gomorrah. 41:27.360 --> 41:28.200 Look at it in verse 24, 41:28.420 --> 41:31.820 then the Lord reigned upon Sodom and Gomorrah, 41:32.520 --> 41:35.140 brimstone and fire, from the Lord out of heaven. 41:36.040 --> 41:37.080 Well, how does that work? 41:37.860 --> 41:38.960 Is he incarnated here? 41:39.740 --> 41:41.960 Is this another incarnation, or do you have the Lord? 41:42.440 --> 41:44.660 And in fact, in this story proceeding, 41:45.100 --> 41:47.580 you had the Lord appear unto Abraham and he eats. 41:48.660 --> 41:49.280 How does that work? 41:49.820 --> 41:51.780 The resurrected Lord Jesus Christ eats. 41:52.540 --> 41:53.440 How does that work? 41:54.600 --> 41:56.700 It seems like a lot of these people's view 41:57.240 --> 41:58.720 doesn't accommodate these verses 41:58.720 --> 42:00.460 and has no explanation for these verses. 42:00.880 --> 42:02.680 And then they'll criticize me for actually 42:02.680 --> 42:03.760 trying to come up with an explanation. 42:04.300 --> 42:06.460 They'll criticize people that actually have a view 42:06.460 --> 42:08.420 on this particular verse and say, 42:08.640 --> 42:13.440 well, I think Jesus already had some glorified state. 42:14.100 --> 42:15.160 He had a glorified body. 42:15.860 --> 42:17.140 Wow, is that crazy? 42:17.140 --> 42:20.460 It's just a crazy idea that he's wrestling with Jacob 42:20.460 --> 42:21.340 and has a body. 42:22.020 --> 42:23.500 How else did he wrestle with Jacob? 42:23.700 --> 42:26.200 It's crazy that he ate in Genesis and has a body. 42:26.740 --> 42:28.300 It's crazy that in Genesis 19, 42:28.480 --> 42:31.080 he's walking around and raining fire down from heaven. 42:31.520 --> 42:31.880 That's crazy. 42:32.060 --> 42:33.500 I'm crazy for believing that. 42:33.700 --> 42:35.360 I'm crazy for believing when the spirit moved 42:35.360 --> 42:37.560 upon the face of the waters, something was moving, right? 42:37.660 --> 42:38.300 That's crazy. 42:39.140 --> 42:40.120 How is that crazy? 42:40.360 --> 42:41.220 That's just what the Bible says. 42:41.920 --> 42:43.200 I'm just trying to explain it. 42:44.280 --> 42:45.000 And then they'll be like, 42:45.000 --> 42:47.040 you believe all these ancient heresies. 42:47.120 --> 42:47.980 It sounds like there's other people 42:47.980 --> 42:49.160 who believe the Bible back then apparently. 42:49.440 --> 42:49.800 I don't know. 42:50.480 --> 42:51.700 Go the way to Hebrews chapter one. 42:51.780 --> 42:52.760 Go to Hebrews chapter number one. 42:55.020 --> 42:56.360 You can call me whatever you want. 42:56.600 --> 42:57.840 You can put whatever label you want. 42:58.140 --> 42:59.940 But hey, I affirm the Trinity. 43:00.180 --> 43:01.480 There's three persons in one God. 43:01.840 --> 43:03.900 But when I say person, you know what I mean by person? 43:04.580 --> 43:05.520 Person, yeah, exactly. 43:06.920 --> 43:08.140 You know what I mean by person? 43:09.060 --> 43:09.420 Mind. 43:10.200 --> 43:11.340 You know what I mean by person? 43:11.680 --> 43:12.660 A state of consciousness. 43:13.300 --> 43:14.220 You know what I mean by person? 43:14.720 --> 43:16.720 Hey, they have their own body, whatever that is. 43:17.320 --> 43:18.500 You know, is it a human body? 43:18.840 --> 43:20.620 No, but is it some kind of body? 43:21.780 --> 43:23.220 Mind, will, name. 43:23.840 --> 43:25.260 I mean, what you think of a person. 43:26.120 --> 43:27.600 Why wouldn't we use a different word 43:27.600 --> 43:29.020 if person didn't mean person at all? 43:29.520 --> 43:31.260 What I'm not gonna say is it's limited 43:31.260 --> 43:32.500 to a relation of origin. 43:33.140 --> 43:35.020 And then just hide behind that. 43:35.800 --> 43:36.980 And don't you think, 43:37.600 --> 43:39.200 hey, person doesn't really mean person? 43:39.580 --> 43:40.680 Well, then why don't you come up 43:40.680 --> 43:41.700 with the word that it means? 43:42.800 --> 43:46.060 Like, haven't you had enough time to say like, 43:46.140 --> 43:47.500 hey, that's a misleading word. 43:47.600 --> 43:48.640 Then give us the right word. 43:49.300 --> 43:51.260 You know why they're not giving us the right word? 43:51.620 --> 43:54.720 Because there's no word to describe their non-definition. 43:56.140 --> 43:58.320 That's why they still just keep using the word person 43:58.320 --> 44:00.500 and then be like, but it's not what you think it means. 44:01.340 --> 44:02.240 Well, what does it mean then? 44:03.020 --> 44:03.720 It's just the Catholics. 44:03.960 --> 44:05.060 It's like salvation by faith, 44:05.180 --> 44:06.300 but faith isn't what you think it is. 44:07.420 --> 44:08.380 Faith is just works. 44:09.080 --> 44:11.960 And then you're just like, okay, what is works then? 44:12.340 --> 44:15.380 You know, like, let's just redefine every word. 44:16.160 --> 44:18.760 And this is dangerous when you're redefining 44:18.760 --> 44:20.680 the words of the language that you're speaking. 44:21.980 --> 44:24.040 Okay, why don't we just speak plainly 44:24.560 --> 44:26.060 and let the Bible mean what it means? 44:26.640 --> 44:29.100 Hebrews one, the Bible says in verse number three, 44:29.240 --> 44:30.580 who being the brightness of his glory 44:31.240 --> 44:33.660 and the express image of his person 44:34.080 --> 44:35.920 and upholding all things by the word of his power 44:35.920 --> 44:36.840 when he had by himself, 44:36.840 --> 44:38.560 purged our sins, sat down on the right hand 44:38.560 --> 44:39.240 of the majesty of high. 44:39.600 --> 44:41.940 Now again, people that get mad at me, 44:42.560 --> 44:44.080 they'll hear me read this verse and say, 44:44.220 --> 44:46.420 oh, they love to use this word person here, 44:46.440 --> 44:47.880 but that's not what person means. 44:48.040 --> 44:49.080 Person doesn't mean person here. 44:50.920 --> 44:51.800 What does it mean then? 44:52.740 --> 44:55.400 Homo euseus, because that's the Greek word. 44:56.240 --> 44:57.560 And you're like, well, what does that mean? 44:59.060 --> 45:00.840 Person, you know, it's just like, okay. 45:02.320 --> 45:03.400 Homo euseus, you know. 45:03.960 --> 45:05.800 It's just like, the word games, 45:06.340 --> 45:09.020 how about the fact that just the son looks like the father? 45:09.320 --> 45:10.900 Isn't that just really easy to understand? 45:11.520 --> 45:12.720 And hey, I like the word person. 45:13.120 --> 45:14.680 If you want to say that God is three persons, 45:15.140 --> 45:16.000 I think it's totally biblical 45:16.000 --> 45:17.440 because the Bible talks about the person of Christ 45:17.440 --> 45:18.180 and second Corinthians. 45:18.520 --> 45:21.020 It talks about him being the express image of his person 45:21.020 --> 45:22.440 here in Hebrews chapter number one. 45:22.900 --> 45:23.760 If you want to call themselves, 45:24.200 --> 45:24.920 I think that's biblical. 45:25.300 --> 45:27.860 You have expressly stated in John chapter 17 45:28.380 --> 45:30.760 that he has saying, hey, glorify thou me 45:30.760 --> 45:31.860 with thine own self. 45:32.980 --> 45:35.520 Of course, the word self is used to describe 45:35.520 --> 45:37.000 the distinction between the father and the son. 45:37.400 --> 45:38.940 Person is used to describe the distinction 45:38.940 --> 45:40.540 between the father and the son. 45:42.060 --> 45:44.480 Minds, wills, names, all of these things 45:44.480 --> 45:46.240 are just what the Bible explicitly teaches. 45:46.900 --> 45:48.400 Well, that doesn't sound monotheistic. 45:48.580 --> 45:49.820 Well, it sounds monotheistic to me 45:49.820 --> 45:51.260 because there's one God in these three persons. 45:52.980 --> 45:53.940 Sorry, you don't like it. 45:54.500 --> 45:56.300 Sorry, you don't like God, but that's your fault. 45:56.520 --> 45:57.220 Go to Hebrews 10. 45:57.300 --> 45:58.360 I'm just gonna go to a couple more places. 45:59.140 --> 46:00.240 Well, God, I think, you know, 46:00.400 --> 46:01.440 I believe in the hypostatic union. 46:01.540 --> 46:02.940 You can believe that if you want, 46:03.040 --> 46:04.460 but here's the thing. 46:04.460 --> 46:07.020 You can claim any term that you want, 46:07.280 --> 46:08.560 but if people are teaching things 46:08.560 --> 46:10.480 that aren't in line with the Bible, 46:10.600 --> 46:11.840 why would you wanna cling to that term? 46:12.900 --> 46:14.440 I heard a fundamental Baptist preacher get up and say, 46:14.760 --> 46:15.700 why believe in divine simplicity 46:15.700 --> 46:16.820 as long as you define it right? 46:17.960 --> 46:20.300 And I'm like, okay, well, how do we define it then? 46:20.760 --> 46:22.860 And then he just defines it in the exact opposite way 46:22.860 --> 46:24.240 that divine simplicity is interpreted. 46:24.800 --> 46:25.980 And I'm like, what's the point in that? 46:27.520 --> 46:29.080 What if I'm like, why believe in Satan? 46:29.380 --> 46:30.940 As long as when you mean Satan, you mean Jesus. 46:31.780 --> 46:33.300 You know, it's just like, why would I do that? 46:33.840 --> 46:35.900 Why would I just totally take the opposite 46:35.900 --> 46:39.360 of a word's definition and then try to embrace it? 46:39.880 --> 46:42.100 I guess so that you can be deceitful then. 46:42.720 --> 46:44.120 So then you can be like, 46:44.320 --> 46:46.240 oh, I believe in divine simplicity too, right? 46:46.400 --> 46:47.040 Yeah, we're cool. 46:47.220 --> 46:48.160 Yeah, I'm a theologian. 46:48.300 --> 46:50.520 Yeah, church fathers, brah. 46:51.860 --> 46:53.780 And then when someone calls you out on it 46:53.780 --> 46:56.360 because it's got all this heresy attached to it, 46:56.580 --> 46:58.620 it's like, oh, well, it's my definition of it though. 46:59.800 --> 47:01.740 It's just like the false prophet that says, 47:01.740 --> 47:02.740 yeah, salvation is my faith. 47:03.480 --> 47:05.200 But if you don't have works, do you really have faith? 47:06.820 --> 47:09.300 And when I say faith, you gotta follow all the commandments. 47:09.380 --> 47:10.920 Faith means following all the commandments, 47:11.080 --> 47:13.220 doing everything that God said perfectly and never sinning. 47:13.620 --> 47:15.100 She's like, wow, that's faith, really? 47:16.140 --> 47:17.060 Yeah, it's faith alone. 47:18.780 --> 47:19.620 Not of works. 47:19.980 --> 47:21.000 And you're like, what's work again? 47:22.060 --> 47:22.780 I don't know. 47:23.340 --> 47:25.480 It's just like, hey, let's not redefine words. 47:26.480 --> 47:28.360 If a word doesn't match what you believe, 47:28.480 --> 47:29.240 then change words. 47:31.400 --> 47:32.880 What's the point of even having words 47:32.880 --> 47:34.680 if they don't actually mean what we think they mean? 47:35.840 --> 47:37.620 What's the point of having a translation 47:38.300 --> 47:40.160 if it doesn't actually mean what it says? 47:41.340 --> 47:42.940 Wouldn't you just improve the translation? 47:43.400 --> 47:45.480 Why did we refine into the King James Bible? 47:45.680 --> 47:47.160 Why didn't we just stick with the bishops? 47:47.340 --> 47:48.100 Or why didn't we just stick with the, 47:48.380 --> 47:50.380 is it because, hey, sometimes the wording 47:50.920 --> 47:53.480 wasn't as accurate and we wanted the wording 47:53.480 --> 47:55.840 to be dialed in and saying the exact same thing 47:55.840 --> 47:57.400 as the underlying source? 47:57.920 --> 48:01.260 If it's not saying exactly what the underlying source says, 48:01.360 --> 48:04.320 then change it because we want the translation to match. 48:04.600 --> 48:06.480 But here's the thing, the King James says 48:06.480 --> 48:07.340 what the Greek says. 48:08.500 --> 48:10.500 The King James says what the Hebrew says 48:10.500 --> 48:11.120 in the Old Testament. 48:11.940 --> 48:13.500 And you know what words actually mean, what they say. 48:14.840 --> 48:17.000 I get mad at people constantly trying to change. 48:17.360 --> 48:18.600 Well, it's not what the word means. 48:19.060 --> 48:21.400 Look, there are a couple times in the Bible 48:21.400 --> 48:24.820 in the King James Bible where because of our modern 48:25.720 --> 48:28.200 understanding of a word, we could get a little bit confused. 48:28.740 --> 48:29.300 I get it. 48:29.640 --> 48:32.060 I get it that, hey, there's the word nephew 48:32.920 --> 48:36.680 in 1 Timothy and it technically is referring to a grandson. 48:37.000 --> 48:39.700 And so we get a little bit confused by this one word. 48:40.400 --> 48:42.360 And if someone were to say, hey, I'm gonna update 48:42.360 --> 48:45.160 the King James Bible and I'm gonna fix that one word, 48:45.480 --> 48:47.680 I really couldn't throw stones at that particular person. 48:47.980 --> 48:48.440 But you know what? 48:48.480 --> 48:49.800 The people that are getting these modern Bibles, 48:49.900 --> 48:51.820 they're not fixing this handful of words 48:52.300 --> 48:54.700 that it's like, they're not changing B some to broom 48:55.280 --> 48:56.820 and changing nephew to grandson. 48:57.440 --> 49:00.220 They're just taking out 11 verses in Mark. 49:01.040 --> 49:04.560 They're just taking out Acts 837. 49:05.340 --> 49:08.840 They're taking things that just make total sense 49:08.840 --> 49:11.280 like faithful, or they're not faithful 49:11.280 --> 49:12.500 to the ones they're friends, but they're taking out 49:12.500 --> 49:17.240 the words of a Talber go down as wounds 49:17.240 --> 49:19.500 and they turn it into something like dainty morsels. 49:19.500 --> 49:22.320 It's just like the words of a Talber are as wounds 49:22.320 --> 49:23.600 and they're like dainty morsels. 49:23.960 --> 49:25.540 It's just like, bro, you didn't help us out with that. 49:26.220 --> 49:28.880 Okay, they're changing hell into Gehenna or something. 49:29.580 --> 49:32.980 Are they changing it into another word 49:32.980 --> 49:34.840 that we don't really are familiar with? 49:35.300 --> 49:36.380 Okay, Hades or something. 49:36.600 --> 49:38.700 And you're just like, well, let's just stick with hell. 49:40.760 --> 49:43.320 I was in a debate with a guy and he's like, 49:43.680 --> 49:45.580 when people die, they go to the shadow realm. 49:47.420 --> 49:48.920 Like the shadow realm. 49:49.560 --> 49:51.280 Is this like Dungeons and Dragons or something? 49:51.540 --> 49:53.220 Like, why can't we just say hell? 49:53.400 --> 49:54.580 I mean, it's only four letters. 49:55.320 --> 49:57.640 You know, can you get much simpler? 49:58.500 --> 49:59.600 It's like Hades is five. 49:59.740 --> 50:01.480 Let's just drop a letter and get down to hell. 50:01.660 --> 50:02.180 You know what I mean? 50:04.340 --> 50:07.200 But obviously, people want to be cool and edgy 50:07.200 --> 50:07.740 and all this. 50:08.660 --> 50:10.060 Look, just be a fundamental Baptist. 50:11.140 --> 50:13.320 You don't have to affirm divine simplicity. 50:13.900 --> 50:17.040 You don't have to affirm all these Catholic theological terms. 50:17.700 --> 50:18.100 You know what? 50:18.140 --> 50:19.300 Let's just believe what the Bible says. 50:19.940 --> 50:21.160 And who cares about these labels? 50:21.320 --> 50:22.400 Who cares about the church fathers? 50:22.940 --> 50:25.220 Most of them are probably dead and in hell anyways, okay? 50:26.100 --> 50:27.920 I would love for some of them to be saved. 50:28.020 --> 50:29.740 Like I would love for John Christ's dome to be saved. 50:30.060 --> 50:30.960 I just want to give him a high five 50:30.960 --> 50:31.960 about what he said about facts. 50:32.240 --> 50:34.500 He's like, the guy is based on that issue, okay? 50:35.940 --> 50:38.520 And I'm sure that there's probably some that are. 50:38.660 --> 50:40.160 There's probably in the first century or something. 50:40.160 --> 50:43.560 But saying Augustine, I don't believe he's in heaven. 50:44.460 --> 50:46.580 I believe he's a Satan Augustine, if you ask me. 50:47.380 --> 50:49.600 So I'm not interested in all these church fathers. 50:49.980 --> 50:51.100 I'm interested in what the Bible says. 50:51.660 --> 50:52.620 You know the fathers I'm interested? 50:52.880 --> 50:57.120 Paul, Peter, John, Abraham, our father Abraham. 50:57.980 --> 50:59.260 You know, it's like, oh, we're gonna talk about 50:59.260 --> 50:59.760 church fathers. 50:59.880 --> 51:01.380 How about the one where it says our father Abraham? 51:02.060 --> 51:03.600 Okay, that's our father. 51:04.640 --> 51:05.820 You know why they don't want to talk about 51:05.820 --> 51:06.580 father Abraham? 51:06.860 --> 51:08.100 Because he's not their father, that's why. 51:08.640 --> 51:10.760 Hebrews chapter 10, look what it says in verse five. 51:10.920 --> 51:12.180 Wherefore, when he comes into the world, 51:12.300 --> 51:14.360 he say, a sacrifice and offering, now what is not? 51:15.040 --> 51:18.500 But a body has thou prepared me. 51:18.800 --> 51:21.200 Notice it says, thou and me. 51:22.400 --> 51:26.780 Jesus is saying, you prepared me a body. 51:27.040 --> 51:29.140 He didn't say, I prepared myself a body. 51:31.000 --> 51:33.200 There must be a distinction in the persons, isn't there? 51:33.740 --> 51:35.680 And of course, why did he have to have this body 51:35.680 --> 51:37.660 so that he could die and taste the death? 51:37.660 --> 51:39.240 I wanna go to one last place, go to Hebrews four 51:39.240 --> 51:41.340 and I just wanna make a quick application here. 51:41.960 --> 51:42.900 Why is this important? 51:43.960 --> 51:45.320 Well, it's important first of all 51:45.320 --> 51:46.480 that we have the right view of God. 51:47.300 --> 51:49.440 It's important that we give honor 51:49.440 --> 51:51.120 to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit 51:51.480 --> 51:53.060 as the Bible would have us do. 51:53.740 --> 51:56.060 Of course, things are done in the name of the Father 51:56.060 --> 51:57.820 and the name of the Son and the name of the Holy Ghost. 51:58.620 --> 52:00.540 So obviously we wanna understand them. 52:00.580 --> 52:02.120 We wanna understand their different functions 52:02.120 --> 52:02.640 in a sense. 52:02.860 --> 52:03.800 You know, the Bible brings this up 52:03.800 --> 52:05.380 in 2 Corinthians, we talked about it. 52:05.740 --> 52:07.000 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, 52:07.000 --> 52:09.240 the love of God and the communion of the Holy Ghost. 52:09.860 --> 52:12.020 Of course, the Holy Ghost dwells inside of us 52:12.020 --> 52:15.600 as say believers and will never leave us nor forsake us. 52:15.620 --> 52:18.160 He's that comforter, he reminds us of the scriptures. 52:18.680 --> 52:19.820 Of course, we have Jesus Christ 52:19.820 --> 52:21.780 who sits at the right hand of God, the Father 52:21.780 --> 52:25.640 and he's an advocate for us with the Father. 52:25.820 --> 52:29.280 So when we sin, we can go to the Father through the Son 52:29.800 --> 52:31.280 and we can ask for forgiveness 52:31.280 --> 52:33.840 and ask for grace through the Son 52:33.840 --> 52:35.680 and what he's done for us. 52:36.080 --> 52:37.620 So we understand all the different functions. 52:37.780 --> 52:40.600 We pray to the Father through, 52:41.360 --> 52:43.160 obviously the Lord Jesus Christ is our advocate 52:43.160 --> 52:45.460 and with the help of the Holy Ghost 52:45.940 --> 52:47.480 and we wanna understand their different functions 52:47.480 --> 52:49.800 and roles and how they interact. 52:50.280 --> 52:52.460 This just gives us a greater and deeper appreciation 52:52.460 --> 52:53.500 for the things of God 52:54.200 --> 52:57.140 and the different ways that we can access 52:57.140 --> 52:58.460 the help that he's given to us. 52:58.620 --> 52:59.700 But one of these of course 52:59.700 --> 53:01.080 is the Lord Jesus Christ himself. 53:01.320 --> 53:03.840 And you know why I dislike strongly 53:03.840 --> 53:07.560 this idea of limiting what Jesus did or something 53:08.220 --> 53:10.160 is not truly appreciating it. 53:11.140 --> 53:14.480 God as the Son, God manifests in the flesh, 53:15.080 --> 53:16.840 he really did experience things 53:16.840 --> 53:19.260 that he could only experience if he was limited. 53:20.280 --> 53:23.760 This hypostatic union makes Jesus like a terminator 53:24.180 --> 53:25.500 or something where like he just has 53:25.500 --> 53:28.100 on the screen all the information is always coming up 53:28.500 --> 53:29.660 and then he's just like pretending 53:29.660 --> 53:30.980 like he doesn't have it or something. 53:31.460 --> 53:32.860 He's like, no, he really was limited. 53:33.340 --> 53:35.740 I mean, think of what the Bible is saying here in verse 15. 53:36.620 --> 53:37.580 For we have not an high priest 53:37.580 --> 53:40.200 which cannot be touched with the feeling 53:40.640 --> 53:42.140 of our infirmities, 53:42.900 --> 53:45.620 but was in all points tempted like as we are yet 53:45.620 --> 53:46.380 without sin. 53:46.680 --> 53:48.300 What does the word infirmity mean? 53:48.440 --> 53:49.660 The word infirmity means weakness. 53:51.140 --> 53:54.180 How is it that Jesus was touched with our infirmities 53:54.180 --> 53:56.240 because he really had to go through 53:56.240 --> 53:58.980 the human experience was just a weak experience. 53:59.400 --> 54:03.080 There are weaknesses to us being in this mortal state. 54:03.520 --> 54:05.060 Weakness is like being hungry. 54:05.260 --> 54:09.380 He really hungered like feeling pain, like being tired, 54:09.660 --> 54:12.500 going through all these different human experiences 54:12.500 --> 54:14.140 that he really had to go through. 54:14.660 --> 54:17.720 He was after 40 days and 40 nights in the wilderness. 54:17.960 --> 54:19.000 The Bible says he hungered. 54:19.360 --> 54:22.260 He knows what it's like to feel hunger. 54:22.560 --> 54:24.580 He knows what it's like to be upset. 54:24.960 --> 54:27.820 He knows what it's like to be betrayed. 54:28.330 --> 54:30.220 He knows what it's like to be disappointed. 54:30.660 --> 54:31.220 And why? 54:31.900 --> 54:32.440 Why? 54:32.540 --> 54:34.200 Because when we go through difficulty, 54:34.260 --> 54:35.680 when we go through issues, 54:36.100 --> 54:38.980 we can appeal to Jesus and he knows what it's like. 54:40.020 --> 54:42.160 You can't go through an experience 54:42.750 --> 54:44.520 that Jesus doesn't have parallel to. 54:45.260 --> 54:48.600 Jesus knows what it's like to be told to do something 54:48.600 --> 54:50.760 that he doesn't wanna do and he submits anyways. 54:51.440 --> 54:53.340 Not my will, but by and be done. 54:54.040 --> 54:56.440 So every single lady that's ever existed 54:56.440 --> 54:59.440 that's so mad about having to submit to someone, 55:00.100 --> 55:00.840 hey, you know what? 55:01.140 --> 55:03.540 Jesus Christ had to submit to the Father's will. 55:04.240 --> 55:05.740 And you know what he was asked to do? 55:06.380 --> 55:09.160 He was asked to bear the sins of the entire world. 55:09.640 --> 55:13.040 He was asked to die a murderer's death 55:13.040 --> 55:14.380 that he didn't deserve. 55:14.800 --> 55:17.280 He was asked to be stripped naked 55:17.280 --> 55:20.580 and publicly ridiculed and spat upon 55:21.080 --> 55:22.640 and beat with a court of whips 55:22.640 --> 55:24.560 and have to carry his own cross. 55:24.560 --> 55:27.000 The Bible says that he despised the shame. 55:27.320 --> 55:29.620 He had to die on the cross and then go to hell. 55:30.100 --> 55:31.620 Who's been asked to do that? 55:32.500 --> 55:34.720 Who's been told that they have to submit to that? 55:35.160 --> 55:37.180 The Bible says he prayed at least three times 55:37.180 --> 55:40.320 going in there and the sweat was coming off of him. 55:40.560 --> 55:43.800 As of great drops of blood, he was in such agony. 55:43.920 --> 55:45.100 The Bible says he was in agony 55:45.690 --> 55:47.720 and the Bible says that he had to have angels come 55:47.720 --> 55:49.020 and even strengthen him 55:49.020 --> 55:51.460 to even go through this particular experience. 55:52.020 --> 55:53.120 And then it's just like, 55:53.420 --> 55:55.380 oh, my husband wants me to go to church. 55:56.140 --> 55:57.620 Just submit and go to church. 55:58.420 --> 55:58.820 Really? 55:59.320 --> 56:00.940 My husband wants me to make him laundry, 56:01.240 --> 56:01.920 you know, do his laundry. 56:02.180 --> 56:02.820 He's just like, wow, 56:03.560 --> 56:07.100 what a cross that you have to carry, you know? 56:08.780 --> 56:10.820 I mean, it's just like it's insane 56:11.640 --> 56:13.460 in many cases, the complaining. 56:13.620 --> 56:15.320 Now look, are there some people 56:15.320 --> 56:16.700 that actually have real burdens? 56:17.220 --> 56:17.520 Yes. 56:17.880 --> 56:19.940 Are there people that are going through real problems 56:19.940 --> 56:23.920 and real difficulties and real suffering and real shame? 56:24.580 --> 56:26.300 Oh yeah, there is, but you know what? 56:26.420 --> 56:27.980 Jesus understands what it's like. 56:28.320 --> 56:30.340 You know, I may not always understand what it's like. 56:31.640 --> 56:33.460 Your spouse may not understand it. 56:33.640 --> 56:35.020 Your parents may not understand it. 56:35.600 --> 56:37.600 You know, obviously they're constantly talk 56:37.600 --> 56:42.260 about this disconnect from boomers and like Generation Z. 56:43.140 --> 56:44.680 They'll be like, get a job. 56:44.940 --> 56:46.620 And they're like, well, back in your day, you know, 56:47.060 --> 56:48.440 apparently you just had to do nothing 56:48.440 --> 56:49.300 and you get a free house. 56:49.300 --> 56:50.300 You know, that's what they act like. 56:50.560 --> 56:52.880 They act like, oh, back in your day, you know, 56:52.960 --> 56:55.440 the wives, I've seen this like comedy meme. 56:55.920 --> 56:56.780 It was like a cartoon. 56:57.520 --> 56:58.880 And it was like, back in the fifties, 56:58.880 --> 56:59.760 this is what it was like. 57:00.240 --> 57:02.880 And it was like a guy walks into like a job interview 57:02.880 --> 57:05.240 and they're just like, do you have any experience? 57:05.380 --> 57:06.940 He's like, no, here's a free job, 57:07.080 --> 57:08.440 a free house and a free car. 57:08.920 --> 57:10.300 And then he like shows up at his house 57:10.300 --> 57:11.760 and then this guy walks up and he's like, 57:11.900 --> 57:12.940 here's my virgin daughter. 57:13.060 --> 57:13.860 Do you want to marry her? 57:15.180 --> 57:16.460 And the guy's like, I don't know. 57:16.520 --> 57:17.640 And she's like, I'll cook and clean 57:17.640 --> 57:18.740 and do everything that you say. 57:18.740 --> 57:19.780 And he's like, all right. 57:20.200 --> 57:22.000 And he's like, this is what it was like for them. 57:22.080 --> 57:23.880 And I'm like, never did that ever happen. 57:24.260 --> 57:24.560 Okay. 57:26.520 --> 57:28.460 But, you know, some people think that 57:28.460 --> 57:30.160 and then they feel like, oh, they can't relate 57:30.160 --> 57:31.180 to what I'm going through. 57:31.640 --> 57:34.840 And, you know, in today's world, women are whores. 57:35.240 --> 57:37.480 It's like, have you ever heard of the 60s and 70s? 57:39.600 --> 57:41.500 Yeah, women are whores now. 57:42.120 --> 57:44.540 But boy, I'm telling you in the 60s and 70s, 57:44.540 --> 57:46.360 they were all just straight lace virgins. 57:46.780 --> 57:49.300 You know, it was just such a great time. 57:49.520 --> 57:52.100 It's like, bro, women have been whores throughout history. 57:53.320 --> 57:55.620 The Bible's bringing up in the book of Proverbs 57:55.620 --> 57:57.200 how they're on every corner. 57:58.040 --> 58:01.200 Oh, well women used to be virgin, everyone's a virgin. 58:01.740 --> 58:03.640 It's just like, let's go back to Proverbs for a moment. 58:03.760 --> 58:03.980 Okay. 58:04.840 --> 58:05.840 What does Proverbs say? 58:06.180 --> 58:07.560 Who can find a virtuous woman? 58:08.320 --> 58:10.560 Oh, but if we go back to the 50s, right? 58:10.800 --> 58:11.800 That's the answer to everything. 58:12.860 --> 58:15.080 It was like, hey, how can we find a virtuous woman? 58:15.720 --> 58:16.320 1950s America. 58:17.560 --> 58:19.140 That's the only time it ever happened. 58:19.500 --> 58:20.820 You know, the women that were playing baseball 58:20.820 --> 58:22.520 and, you know, the league of their own, 58:22.880 --> 58:26.020 they were all these just submissive, godly housewives, okay? 58:27.100 --> 58:28.920 All the factory workers came home 58:28.920 --> 58:31.260 and they were just so obedient and just so godly 58:31.260 --> 58:31.540 and so on. 58:32.640 --> 58:34.900 Really is the boomer generation, when we look back, 58:35.100 --> 58:36.320 like if we look at them now, 58:36.960 --> 58:39.840 are they submissive, god-fearing women 58:39.840 --> 58:41.740 or they have short haircuts 58:42.240 --> 58:43.800 and are going to these Zionist churches 58:43.800 --> 58:45.040 and are so rebellious? 58:45.600 --> 58:47.980 But then we pretend like all those women 58:47.980 --> 58:49.680 were these magic awesome housewives. 58:50.440 --> 58:54.300 It's like, what are you, you're just confusing everything. 58:54.820 --> 58:57.860 Sorry, there's a rant, but what's the point? 58:58.000 --> 59:00.500 The point is, even if your parents don't get it, 59:00.600 --> 59:01.280 Jesus gets it. 59:04.060 --> 59:05.960 And you know, as men, it's like, hey, 59:05.980 --> 59:07.040 we have to bear all these burdens 59:07.040 --> 59:08.260 and we have all these difficulties 59:08.880 --> 59:11.820 and hey, inflation and our government sucks 59:11.820 --> 59:13.740 and our government's constantly lying to us 59:13.740 --> 59:15.060 and there's all these conspiracy theories 59:15.060 --> 59:16.380 and I'm so disenfranchised 59:16.380 --> 59:20.360 and I always have to be bombarded with text messages 59:20.360 --> 59:22.060 about voting for the lesser of two evils. 59:22.420 --> 59:23.360 Is that just me? 59:23.540 --> 59:25.700 Who else is getting text messages about voting every day? 59:25.960 --> 59:27.300 It's just like, goodnight. 59:28.020 --> 59:29.380 It's just like so annoying. 59:30.300 --> 59:32.680 It's like, vote, this is the most important election ever. 59:33.240 --> 59:34.160 Isn't that every election? 59:35.360 --> 59:36.920 This is every election's most important elections 59:37.560 --> 59:39.520 and it's like everything just gets slightly worse. 59:39.720 --> 59:40.520 That's, you know, it's just like, 59:40.660 --> 59:41.840 this is the most important election 59:41.840 --> 59:43.720 and always just gets slightly worse no matter what. 59:45.860 --> 59:47.840 But you know what, Jesus knows what it's like 59:47.840 --> 59:49.260 to have bad politicians. 59:49.800 --> 59:51.960 I guarantee in the first century Rome, 59:52.460 --> 59:54.640 you know, Pilate and Herod weren't that great. 59:56.160 --> 59:57.920 He knows what it's like to be run through 59:57.920 --> 01:00:01.440 the political system or the criminal justice system 01:00:01.860 --> 01:00:03.080 and be falsely accused. 01:00:03.900 --> 01:00:06.300 He knows what it's like for someone to abandon him. 01:00:06.300 --> 01:00:08.200 He knows what it's like to someone give him 01:00:08.200 --> 01:00:09.820 that kiss of death like Judas did. 01:00:10.020 --> 01:00:12.020 He knows what it's like to have his own brother 01:00:12.020 --> 01:00:13.080 and not believe in him. 01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:16.680 He knows what it's like to work so hard 01:00:16.680 --> 01:00:19.360 and so tirelessly and only do good 01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:20.880 and then people just trash him. 01:00:21.680 --> 01:00:23.680 I mean, he comes into cities and he heals everybody, 01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:25.100 does good to very, and then they wanna throw him 01:00:25.100 --> 01:00:25.420 off a cliff. 01:00:26.780 --> 01:00:28.100 He knows what Jews are like. 01:00:29.020 --> 01:00:30.240 Some of you guys are like, man, 01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:31.140 I know what the Jews are like 01:00:31.140 --> 01:00:31.820 and nobody's with me. 01:00:32.040 --> 01:00:33.280 Jesus knows, all right? 01:00:34.020 --> 01:00:35.600 Jesus knows what they're like. 01:00:36.380 --> 01:00:39.320 Jesus knows what they're really capable of doing, okay? 01:00:39.740 --> 01:00:42.100 Jesus knows their deep and dark secrets. 01:00:42.700 --> 01:00:44.640 He knows what's going on behind the scenes. 01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:46.400 He knows who's running the world. 01:00:47.340 --> 01:00:48.640 Oh, but you don't know Satan. 01:00:49.080 --> 01:00:50.520 Jesus knows who Satan is. 01:00:51.160 --> 01:00:53.020 He had to be tempted of the devil 01:00:53.020 --> 01:00:54.200 and the wilderness for 40 years. 01:00:54.800 --> 01:00:57.980 I'm gonna, 40 years, sorry, 40 days, excuse me. 01:00:58.520 --> 01:00:59.600 I'm just telling you like, 01:00:59.880 --> 01:01:01.280 hey, this is an important doctrine to realize 01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:03.220 that Jesus really went through these experiences. 01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:05.400 He really knows what it was like 01:01:05.840 --> 01:01:07.760 and so when we go through difficulties, 01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:10.360 when we go through problems and issues, 01:01:11.060 --> 01:01:11.940 what are we supposed to do? 01:01:12.020 --> 01:01:13.340 We're supposed to pray to the Father, 01:01:13.740 --> 01:01:14.660 going through the advocate of Jesus 01:01:14.660 --> 01:01:16.620 and realizing, hey, we have a high priest 01:01:16.620 --> 01:01:18.360 that knows what we're going through. 01:01:20.080 --> 01:01:21.740 He knows what it's like to have suffering. 01:01:21.900 --> 01:01:23.280 He knows what it's like to be burned out. 01:01:23.380 --> 01:01:24.500 He knows what it's like to be tired. 01:01:24.620 --> 01:01:25.600 He knows what it's like to be hungry. 01:01:26.020 --> 01:01:27.140 He knows what it's like to be betrayed. 01:01:27.620 --> 01:01:29.460 He knows what it's like to have to do something 01:01:29.460 --> 01:01:30.360 you don't wanna do. 01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:33.460 He knows what it's like to have to be in a humble position. 01:01:33.900 --> 01:01:35.960 Well, but my life would be better 01:01:35.960 --> 01:01:38.200 if I had more fame or money or attention. 01:01:38.520 --> 01:01:39.620 Jesus didn't get that. 01:01:41.020 --> 01:01:42.880 If they just knew who I was, 01:01:43.720 --> 01:01:45.020 if I just got that big break, 01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:47.640 it's like Jesus is the king of kings 01:01:47.640 --> 01:01:50.520 and he's still not getting that big break. 01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:53.580 He's still looked down upon, spat on. 01:01:55.160 --> 01:01:56.580 I mean, he despised the shame, 01:01:56.820 --> 01:01:57.560 is what the Bible says. 01:01:57.980 --> 01:01:59.980 And you know, sometimes people are gonna treat you poorly. 01:02:00.560 --> 01:02:02.840 Oh, my boss doesn't give me the recognition I deserve. 01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:04.880 Did Jesus always get the same recognition? 01:02:05.180 --> 01:02:06.460 I mean, Jesus heals 10 lepers 01:02:06.460 --> 01:02:08.740 and only one even came back to say thank you. 01:02:09.620 --> 01:02:11.240 Jesus knows what it's like to help somebody 01:02:11.240 --> 01:02:12.080 and they don't even care. 01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:14.100 Jesus knows what it's like. 01:02:14.260 --> 01:02:17.600 I mean, think about how many people that he got saved 01:02:17.600 --> 01:02:19.200 in his ministry and they don't follow him. 01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:21.660 They want nothing to do with him. 01:02:22.620 --> 01:02:24.520 And this is just his earthly experience. 01:02:25.240 --> 01:02:28.280 I mean, we think about just what we know about the Gospels. 01:02:28.500 --> 01:02:30.100 Jesus went through so many experiences 01:02:30.100 --> 01:02:32.440 that we're aware of, that we know of. 01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:34.140 And he only did good 01:02:34.140 --> 01:02:37.420 and he constantly was received with rejection, hatred, 01:02:38.060 --> 01:02:43.900 being an outcast, despised, ridiculed, mocked, laughed at, 01:02:44.900 --> 01:02:45.940 only doing good. 01:02:46.120 --> 01:02:48.140 And so, you know, we can learn from these experiences 01:02:48.140 --> 01:02:49.820 and we should appreciate these experiences 01:02:49.820 --> 01:02:52.740 and it should help us when we go through difficulty. 01:02:53.140 --> 01:02:54.300 You know, we will go through difficulty, 01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:55.500 we will go through persecution, 01:02:55.620 --> 01:02:57.120 but you know what, Jesus knows what it's like. 01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:00.160 And so, don't feel like you're alone. 01:03:01.540 --> 01:03:04.440 The devil wants us all to always feel like we're alone. 01:03:04.960 --> 01:03:06.380 And the devil wants us to feel like 01:03:06.380 --> 01:03:08.360 we're going through something nobody really understands. 01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:10.620 But here's the thing, Jesus always knows 01:03:11.040 --> 01:03:12.080 and Jesus cares. 01:03:14.240 --> 01:03:15.940 Does Jesus care? 01:03:16.540 --> 01:03:16.900 He does. 01:03:17.740 --> 01:03:18.620 He does care. 01:03:19.020 --> 01:03:21.000 You have a friend in Jesus, when we sing these songs, 01:03:21.080 --> 01:03:22.100 we're not just singing them, just to sing. 01:03:22.100 --> 01:03:23.020 It's real. 01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:26.600 And if you're looking for human companionship, 01:03:26.860 --> 01:03:29.220 you probably will always feel wanting 01:03:29.220 --> 01:03:31.580 because humans can't always understand everything, 01:03:31.700 --> 01:03:32.400 but Jesus does. 01:03:33.460 --> 01:03:36.580 And you know, just like Jesus wasn't alone, 01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:38.700 he had the Father and he had the Holy Spirit with him. 01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:41.100 We have Jesus with us and we have the Holy Spirit with us. 01:03:41.380 --> 01:03:42.880 And so, please don't feel alone. 01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:45.320 Please don't allow yourself to get discouraged. 01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:48.960 Please recognize that we have the Son as an advocate. 01:03:49.580 --> 01:03:50.620 He cares about us. 01:03:50.720 --> 01:03:51.320 He loves us. 01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:55.840 You know, just like the Father loves the Son, 01:03:56.320 --> 01:03:57.400 God loves us. 01:03:58.120 --> 01:03:59.960 It's not, you know, the Bible's not a story 01:03:59.960 --> 01:04:01.540 about some person loving themselves 01:04:02.060 --> 01:04:03.220 and pretending to be three. 01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:05.520 He really is the Father, Son, Holy Ghost, 01:04:05.640 --> 01:04:06.660 and he really does love. 01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:08.640 And it really illustrates, I mean, 01:04:09.120 --> 01:04:11.120 the love that the Father must have for us, 01:04:11.260 --> 01:04:13.140 that he would literally give up his Son. 01:04:14.280 --> 01:04:15.240 That's a lot of love. 01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:18.260 Well, I just don't feel like God cares about me. 01:04:18.260 --> 01:04:19.620 He really cares about you. 01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:22.260 He's already demonstrated the most love 01:04:22.260 --> 01:04:23.660 he could possibly show towards you. 01:04:24.200 --> 01:04:25.840 Well, I don't think God cares about my situation 01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:27.460 or my life or my goals. 01:04:27.700 --> 01:04:29.320 No, he cares about you more than you can realize. 01:04:29.700 --> 01:04:31.380 He has the hairs of your head counted. 01:04:32.360 --> 01:04:34.400 For some of you, that's not hard, all right? 01:04:35.940 --> 01:04:38.480 Okay, some of us, it's more than others. 01:04:39.640 --> 01:04:41.980 But hey, he's got zero counted, 01:04:42.100 --> 01:04:42.960 even if that's the number. 01:04:43.540 --> 01:04:44.820 He cares about you, all right? 01:04:46.160 --> 01:04:47.500 He's got a big zero for you. 01:04:49.260 --> 01:04:50.700 And you're like, oh man, 01:04:50.780 --> 01:04:51.700 have he cared about me out of hair? 01:04:51.940 --> 01:04:54.160 No, he does care about you. 01:04:54.800 --> 01:04:56.940 He sent Jesus Christ, obviously, 01:04:57.120 --> 01:04:58.800 to die on the cross for all your sins. 01:04:58.980 --> 01:05:00.680 He cares about you, okay? 01:05:01.160 --> 01:05:03.060 And obviously, the Holy Ghost loves us so much 01:05:03.060 --> 01:05:04.380 it'll never leave us or forsake us. 01:05:05.040 --> 01:05:05.900 So you have three. 01:05:06.760 --> 01:05:07.640 Even if you feel alone, 01:05:07.780 --> 01:05:09.100 you have three that care about you. 01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:12.040 You have the Father, he cares about you. 01:05:12.140 --> 01:05:13.540 You have the Son, he cares about you. 01:05:13.600 --> 01:05:14.260 And you have the Holy Ghost 01:05:14.260 --> 01:05:15.580 and all three of them care about you. 01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:16.520 Isn't that enough? 01:05:17.820 --> 01:05:19.640 It should be enough that the Father loves you. 01:05:19.840 --> 01:05:22.120 It should be enough that the Son cares for you. 01:05:22.200 --> 01:05:23.320 It should be enough that the Holy Ghost 01:05:23.320 --> 01:05:24.240 will never leave you. 01:05:24.740 --> 01:05:27.520 The love that God has for us should be enough. 01:05:28.360 --> 01:05:30.340 And so I think it's important to understand the Trinity. 01:05:30.860 --> 01:05:32.060 And you know, I don't care about the labels 01:05:32.060 --> 01:05:34.520 and all the persecution, they're nuts to them. 01:05:35.020 --> 01:05:36.320 Let the crucifix fall on their head, 01:05:36.440 --> 01:05:36.740 you know what I mean? 01:05:37.180 --> 01:05:37.640 Let's go to prayer. 01:05:38.100 --> 01:05:39.120 Thank you Heavenly Father so much 01:05:39.120 --> 01:05:40.600 for the love that you've given to us 01:05:40.600 --> 01:05:41.740 through the gift of your Son. 01:05:42.620 --> 01:05:43.260 Thank you. 01:05:43.820 --> 01:05:45.740 Jesus Christ for the work that you've done for us 01:05:45.740 --> 01:05:47.400 and the Holy Ghost for comforting us. 01:05:47.500 --> 01:05:49.700 I pray that anyone in this room 01:05:49.700 --> 01:05:51.480 that is going through difficulty, through struggle, 01:05:52.500 --> 01:05:54.100 that you would just help remind them 01:05:54.100 --> 01:05:55.420 that the love you have for them, 01:05:56.720 --> 01:05:58.220 the grace that you have for them, 01:05:58.240 --> 01:05:59.520 the communion that you have for them, 01:05:59.600 --> 01:06:01.240 I pray that people would lean into God, 01:06:01.380 --> 01:06:03.900 they would lean into the promises of Scripture, 01:06:04.140 --> 01:06:05.460 that they would lean into the fellowship 01:06:05.460 --> 01:06:07.820 of the Holy Ghost, that you could comfort them, 01:06:08.280 --> 01:06:09.340 you could remind them of Scripture, 01:06:09.580 --> 01:06:11.340 you could help them to pray and seek you, 01:06:11.340 --> 01:06:13.680 and that you could give them the peace, 01:06:13.820 --> 01:06:15.040 the passeth all understanding. 01:06:16.520 --> 01:06:19.280 I pray if people are going through real problems 01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:21.000 and real issues, God, that you would just please 01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:23.160 give them grace, that you could just please help them 01:06:23.160 --> 01:06:27.500 to see favor in that area of their life, 01:06:28.060 --> 01:06:29.300 and they could trust you. 01:06:29.640 --> 01:06:34.400 I pray that if people are falling victim of sin 01:06:34.400 --> 01:06:36.320 and difficulty, that they would lean into church 01:06:36.320 --> 01:06:38.220 to reading their Bible, getting closer to God, 01:06:38.900 --> 01:06:39.840 and that you would help them. 01:06:40.240 --> 01:06:42.260 And I pray that you would help us to all realize 01:06:42.260 --> 01:06:43.680 that we have three that care about us, 01:06:43.740 --> 01:06:44.880 the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost, 01:06:44.940 --> 01:06:45.840 in Jesus' name we pray amen.